Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

[Netminder]

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Grace Zumwinkle(Breck) takes MN Ms Hockey and Brianna Blesi(Maple Grove) takes MN Ms Goalie!

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for any misspelling-

[D2D]

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"Edina, the top seed in the Class 2A state tournament, has eight players committed to Division-I universities, including six members of its current senior class."

Saturday night's 4-0 shutout of a very talented Blaine team was really impressive. Congrats to former Harvard star Sami Reber, "the first woman head coach to win the Class 2A girls hockey state title" and the first ever state championship for Edina as well.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/02/25...t-state-title/

[Golden Tuuk]

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that hasn't been true for about 25 years now, many of the best teams have transfers from other schools in their district, form outside their district, and even from outside the state.

That's why they're the best teams and why the playing field is not level. You see, 98% of the small town, outstate teams are all home grown. What they have is what they've got. You look at that list from Blake and it's just sickening. They have some of the best players transferring in from an area with two million people. I can't believe they don't have players from California to Sweden.

Funny, during state tournament player introduction they don't actually say where the players are from.

[D2D]

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That's why they're the best teams and why the playing field is not level. You see, 98% of the small town, outstate teams are all home grown. What they have is what they've got. You look at that list from Blake and it's just sickening. They have some of the best players transferring in from an area with two million people. I can't believe they don't have players from California to Sweden.

You mean like Shattuck-St. Mary's? But you can't blame the players (or their parents) for wanting to attend schools like Blake and a few others, which are on a par academically with some of the best New England prep schools. Go to one of these, excel in school and in hockey, and you have the entire universe of D1 hockey schools to choose from. All it takes is a healthy dose of athletic ability and smarts - plus lots of parents' money to fund the youth development years - and it becomes possible to attend and play for a school of your choosing. That's reality.

But getting there does not mean you have to attend a top-flight private school. One only has to look at the number of kids coming from public schools (like Edina, Blaine, Minnetonka, Eden Prairie, Minnetonka, etc., to name a few) who are recruited each year and will play for any number of D1 teams throughout the country. The catch nowadays is that for a kid to get there it almost always takes a good amount of parents money for all the off-season high-level training that's usually required for a kid to rise up and stand out compared to players of the same age. I would say the "money factor" involved with off-season training and AAA teams has been a big deal for at least the last 10 years, and it applies equally to kids going private or public. The difference is that for private, where tuition comes into play, it takes even more money.

So, because hockey has become a very expensive sport, I don't believe the "playing field" will ever become completely level (not that it's been since the proliferation of indoor ice rinks around the State here). In Minnesota, the State High School League (MSHSL) uses school enrollment for determining which class each school is assigned to, and they do this for all sports. In the near future, I don't see this changing, and they certainly will never make a single exception for girls hockey.

I do agree, however, that Blake - given their dominance of Class A in recent years - should "opt up" to Class AA and battle it out there. I'm pretty sure they would have lost to AA champion Edina this year, but it would have been a great game to see.

[Timothy A]

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Grace Zumwinkle(Breck) takes MN Ms Hockey and Brianna Blesi(Maple Grove) takes MN Ms Goalie!

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for any misspelling-

You don't need to apologize for misspellings, we're all human.

A big stick tap to Ms. Blesi!

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Just curious if anyone could give me a scouting report on St. Paul United players and Cornell recruits Joie Phelps and Samantha Burke?

Didn't see much of St Paul United to be able have worthwhile comments but I would agree with D2D that Burke (#18) is more of a power forward than Phelps. FWIW I will include a link to the 2017 Girls Hockey State Tournament central website where you can check out highlight videos of St. Paul United's games. Just click on the game scores that they were involved in and it will take you to a write-up with video.

http://kstp.com/sports/2017-girls-st...086/?cat=10564

[mattj711]

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Thanks!

[pokechecker]

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That's why they're the best teams and why the playing field is not level. You see, 98% of the small town, outstate teams are all home grown. What they have is what they've got. You look at that list from Blake and it's just sickening. They have some of the best players transferring in from an area with two million people. I can't believe they don't have players from California to Sweden.

Funny, during state tournament player introduction they don't actually say where the players are from.

All this talk of recruiting and "hometown" teams is similar to all the whining about #8 returning to the Gophers and them winning the NCAA last year, it's sour grapes

first off all the private schools take from across the metro area and beyond, not just Blake
second, many of the out-state schools get transfers from other districts, it isn't just the metro schools
people act like the private schools are a bunch of cheaters and the public school pure as freshly fallen snow

really, it is primarily the parents who are just trying to do what they believe is best for their kid
a few go overboard, but most follow the rules, how can you blame them for trying to do what is best for their kid?

BTW, if Blake's championship is tainted, what then of StP United? they are a combination of two private schools, IOW, aren't they twice as bad?

[D2D]

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Updated list of announced D1 commitments from Minnesota, boys and girls:

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/view/l...ge/commitments

[hockeymakesmebroke]

Updated list of announced D1 commitments from Minnesota, boys and girls:

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/view/l...ge/commitments

I'm not familiar with how girls hockey is structured in MN. Take the Minnesota Elite teams, Black, Red and White. Are they split up by district? Can the girls chose which team they wish to play on or are they tied in to HS districts? Just curious.

[EPIC97]

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The Upper Midwest High School Elte league is a pre season tune up league that runs for 6-8 weeks prior to the start of the Minnesota High school League. The girls that make the Red, Black and White teams are generally U19 players, but not always typically going into their JR or senior year. Players need to qualify to play in the league. Invitation to national camp is the first qualifier. Any Senior that played in the league previously is also invited back. If those numbers don't fill the rosters then a tryout is held to fill up the rest. The league also involves Shattuck on a regular bases and every weekend invite teams ie. Team Wisconsin, Chicago Mission, Honey Bake etc. Occasionally teams from Canada join in the mix.
It is a highly scouted league as it involves the top players going head to head. The R/B/W teams are chosen to be some what even. There is also a U16 league chosen in a similar manner.
The teams have no geographic connection and it is not uncommon for the best players from the same HS to play against each other. http://www.hselitehockey.com/stats#/...?season_id=689
The Minnesota HS league has girls playing for the High school they attend. The season runs from Mid October to Mid February. You play with your classmates and you represent your city, town etc, HS. http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com

[hockeymakesmebroke]

The Upper Midwest High School Elte league is a pre season tune up league that runs for 6-8 weeks prior to the start of the Minnesota High school League. The girls that make the Red, Black and White teams are generally U19 players, but not always typically going into their JR or senior year. Players need to qualify to play in the league. Invitation to national camp is the first qualifier. Any Senior that played in the league previously is also invited back. If those numbers don't fill the rosters then a tryout is held to fill up the rest. The league also involves Shattuck on a regular bases and every weekend invite teams ie. Team Wisconsin, Chicago Mission, Honey Bake etc. Occasionally teams from Canada join in the mix.
It is a highly scouted league as it involves the top players going head to head. The R/B/W teams are chosen to be some what even. There is also a U16 league chosen in a similar manner.
The teams have no geographic connection and it is not uncommon for the best players from the same HS to play against each other. http://www.hselitehockey.com/stats#/...?season_id=689
The Minnesota HS league has girls playing for the High school they attend. The season runs from Mid October to Mid February. You play with your classmates and you represent your city, town etc, HS. http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com

Ahh, thank you for that.

[joecct]

The Upper Midwest High School Elte league is a pre season tune up league that runs for 6-8 weeks prior to the start of the Minnesota High school League. The girls that make the Red, Black and White teams are generally U19 players, but not always typically going into their JR or senior year. Players need to qualify to play in the league. Invitation to national camp is the first qualifier. Any Senior that played in the league previously is also invited back. If those numbers don't fill the rosters then a tryout is held to fill up the rest. The league also involves Shattuck on a regular bases and every weekend invite teams ie. Team Wisconsin, Chicago Mission, Honey Bake etc. Occasionally teams from Canada join in the mix.
It is a highly scouted league as it involves the top players going head to head. The R/B/W teams are chosen to be some what even. There is also a U16 league chosen in a similar manner.
The teams have no geographic connection and it is not uncommon for the best players from the same HS to play against each other. http://www.hselitehockey.com/stats#/...?season_id=689
The Minnesota HS league has girls playing for the High school they attend. The season runs from Mid October to Mid February. You play with your classmates and you represent your city, town etc, HS. http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com

Minnesota Hockey (USA Hockey) runs the fall league??

[D2D]

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The high school season will get underway this weekend with many scrimmages scheduled across the state. SB NATION has put the following pre-season watch list together of candidates who they believe are in the running for Minnesota's Ms. Hockey award. Not surprisingly the number of Gopher and Bulldog committed recruits dominate the list:

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/wom...key-watch-list

[D2D]

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StarTribune staff writer David La Vaque offers a preseason look at metro-area girls' hockey.

Metro girls' hockey skate to state underway
http://www.startribune.com/metro-gir...way/455254673/