Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

[Gurtholfin]

Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

First, I will fully admit I have a bias. I have a distrust of police based on personal experience and what I see in the media. I'm not proud of it and I try to get past it.

Frankly I'm now done with this thread. I firmly believe that none of you on the other side of this arguement will ever be able gain perspective and show empathy towards what it is like for a person of color to interact with police. Because of that, any further discussion of this subject is pointless.

But anyone's personal experiences that make them distrust other people (again based on personal experience) are somehow irrelevant or a sign of racism?

On on the same side, I don't think any of you will ever have any clue or empathy for what cops have to put up with and deal with all day, every day - and 99.9999% in a non-violent way.

[Handyman]

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While I dont think race is worth discussing in these cases cause killing is wrong all the way around, just like it is ok to discuss the actions of the victim as a mitigating factor it is ok to discuss race as a factor as well. You can't widen or broaden the scope just because it might prove unsavory for your side.

Outside of Ferguson I think the cops in these cases are wrong and should be punished. I dont care about their race or the race of the victim. In Ferguson the DA should be nailed by the Justice Department for what he admitted to doing at the Grand Jury, not because he is a white guy who helped white cops.

Ultimately, the cops need better training and to be better protected. The more the citizens fear/hate cops along with cops fearing for their lifes (and acting without fear of punishment) the more it is a powder keg. Add in everyone having automatic weapons and itchy trigger fingers and you are a whisper away from what we have now. Too many people on both sides making mistakes and taking lives.

[mookie1995]

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If all these criminals dropped anything they were holding and laid on the ground, asphalt, etc facedown they'd be alive today.

[Priceless]

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Canadian man tries to suicide by cop, but Canadian police don't accommodate him, so he tries his luck with the US Border Patrol..

The man also allegedly had a run-in with police in Windsor, Ontario right before the incident on the bridge.

Windsor police said that officers arrived at a parking lot around 2:40 a.m. where the suspect got out of his vehicle with what appeared to be a firearm in his hand, the Windsor Star reported. Officers ordered him to drop the weapon as he walked toward a McDonald's. The suspect then turned to point the weapon at the officers and reportedly asked them "Why haven't you shot me yet?"

The suspect then got into his vehicle and drove over a curb before officers could get back into their vehicle to follow him, according to the Windsor Star.

He was shot in the arm but was not killed.

[Priceless]

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Slain NYPD officer Rafael Ramos has a son at Bowdoin College. The college will pick up the tab for the rest of his education.

BRUNSWICK, Maine — The son of one of two New York City police officers killed Saturday night in Brooklyn is a freshman at Bowdoin College.

Barry Mills, president of the college, informed the family of student Justin Ramos on Sunday morning that the college would provide full financial aid to enable Ramos to complete his Bowdoin education.

In a post on the college’s Facebook page, Mills urged respect for the family’s privacy in the wake of the “unspeakable tragedy.”

“We are a very close community, and we share in Justin’s pain and anguish,” Mills wrote. “I know you join me in offering heartfelt condolences to Justin and the entire Ramos family, and I am sure you will respect their privacy as they and we support one another in the days and weeks ahead.”

[unofan]

If all these criminals dropped anything they were holding and laid on the ground, asphalt, etc facedown they'd be alive today.

Nope, there's no victim blaming going on at all...

[FlagDUDE08]

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Nope, there's no victim blaming going on at all...

Obviously there's sarcasm in this post, but you should see the comments on Fox Snooze threads... I'm beginning to see merit in the huff's claims that Fox Snooze watchers are braindead.

[Gurtholfin]

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Obviously there's sarcasm in this post, but you should see the comments on Fox Snooze threads... I'm beginning to see merit in the huff's claims that Fox Snooze watchers are braindead.

Just now?

Lol.

[mookie1995]

Nope, there's no victim blaming going on at all...

Just because you screw up that doesn't absolve one from their sins

[MaizeRage]

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Even if you believe in the death penalty for certain crimes(treason, murder, a few dollars in unpaid taxes, etc), I think we can all agree that at least that decision should be made by someone impartial with greater qualifications than a C average in high school and a desire to be an ******* professionally.

[joecct]

Madison Hippie points gun at police and ... DOESN'T get shot! How do you explain this, Dude?

It's Madison.

[unofan]

Just because you screw up that doesn't absolve one from their sins

there's no comparative fault defense to criminal law. The victim's actions never excuse criminal conduct against them.

[mookie1995]

there's no comparative fault defense to criminal law. The victim's actions never excuse criminal conduct against them.

A cop giving a lawful order, then that order not being obeyed and the cop subsequently taking protective action (as he sees fit) is NOT a criminal act.

[unofan]

A cop giving a lawful order, then that order not being obeyed and the cop subsequently taking protective action (as he sees fit) is NOT a criminal act.

Nope. A cop can't kill someone just because someone argues with them. They have to have reasonable fear for their own safety or someone else's. that wasn't present in the case of Garner or the Cleveland kid.

[mookie1995]

Nope. A cop can't kill someone just because someone argues with them. They have to have reasonable fear for their own safety or someone else's. that wasn't present in the case of Garner or the Cleveland kid.

And where did I equate my statement with selling loosies?

You guys sure take broad stances while chastising those you accuse of taking broad stances.