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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
What are we talking about ?
Firing Dunbar and keeping Roque ?
Let both go ?
Or just give a kick back now Dunbar has done what she had to do.
Fight on figures if you want.
The AD is just making up for their own longstanding mistake and complacency. Agreed, the AD is not fit for the job, but this is her best move ever. Unfortunately, it is too late.
With a bit of home work, Roque would never have been hired.
Whether he produces superstars or not is quite arguable, but it is an irrelevant comment anyway.
If he did, his job was to take advantage of his super recuits while they were wearing the Laker jersey on the ice, which he obviously failed to do, whatever the maths, crowd, marketing or any other aspect Roque himself would have handled differently if he cared about it.
You would also have to count all the players who were sidelined during their stay and panned out after leaving, not to mention those who came in with promising credentials and never saw ice until they were frozen out in a shameful way. Moreover, a majority of players actually decline during their stay at LSSU.
The good players leave early because they don't want to see Roque more than necessary. They say it, and they just did to Mrs. Roque who is currently mobilizing the whole Laker Hockey planet against her employers' decision, using the resources of the school.
The budget ? If he was so frustrated, why didn't Roque just go somewhere else and get paid twice as much with a lot of pocket money to spend ? Because nobody would open is mails.
Roque not getting support from the AD ... come on. Does that imply trusting blindly a master in tricks and manipulation ?
The AD has no clue about what is going on in Roque's office. She doesn't ask, he doesn't tell ...
She may not really care, and she should be blamed for not having been a real boss, just caring about staying away from a ticking bomb, instead of addressing his destructive methods and dramatically poor ethics, not to mention his liking for intimidation, including on her. Roque's relation to bosses is not his best argument for finding a job.
But again, Dunbar has an easy defense in the confusing position of the President backing Roque on troubling matters.
So now, Roque is leaving at last, he may or may not get another job in the industry, depending on how much his bluffing talent can hide his dirty laundry. He may also have a hard time hiding away from some serious issues running after him.
As far as the program is concerned, it is probably too late for a div 1 team to turn around in an environment without decent leadership.
It is easy to blame the AD (and partially right), but who has done anything to address the downward drifting of the program and the known issues.
The top management ? The community ? The fans ? The blueliners ? Ah ! they "don't do politics", they don't wanna know about it.
Since the boot, a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks are on the field ... with some aggressive recruits. So far, they didn't see the point in looking beyond Ws and Ls.
They won't be of any help to the next coach unless they find out that Ws and Ls are only the tip of the iceberg. No hockey skill can justify or make up for coaching gaps and personality disorder. Who cares about the harm caused to players trapped in the hands of a madman, but only fools ignore the impact of poor ethics, horrible communication or hopeless leadership on Ws and Ls, and that is just about the team dynamics.
Don't forget about the scapegoats he plays with for the fun.
The root causes of the collapse are there to stay, maybe because only Roque is leaving now, but mainly because he was there.
Everybody has been complacent too long, and probably the Roque clan got used to it, hence their anger. They should have thought about their mortgage before.
At the moment, Mrs Roque and a squad of more or less independent supporters are trying to mobilize support on their working hours, but it is unlikely that anybody will remind them their loyalty duty.
That's the way it goes when there is no leadership, no care. Today is a bad day for the Roque clan, but they have taken advantage of the system so long that they shouldn't complain.
By the way, since our very active activist newcomers mentioned Joe Shawhan's degrees, may we have a scan of Roque's degree ?
He may not need it in the future, but who knows, he may be lucky.
There you go !
(I am not going to argue back and forth, so don't expect me to play the game, especially the newcomer)
What are we talking about ?
Firing Dunbar and keeping Roque ?
Let both go ?
Or just give a kick back now Dunbar has done what she had to do.
Fight on figures if you want.
The AD is just making up for their own longstanding mistake and complacency. Agreed, the AD is not fit for the job, but this is her best move ever. Unfortunately, it is too late.
With a bit of home work, Roque would never have been hired.
Whether he produces superstars or not is quite arguable, but it is an irrelevant comment anyway.
If he did, his job was to take advantage of his super recuits while they were wearing the Laker jersey on the ice, which he obviously failed to do, whatever the maths, crowd, marketing or any other aspect Roque himself would have handled differently if he cared about it.
You would also have to count all the players who were sidelined during their stay and panned out after leaving, not to mention those who came in with promising credentials and never saw ice until they were frozen out in a shameful way. Moreover, a majority of players actually decline during their stay at LSSU.
The good players leave early because they don't want to see Roque more than necessary. They say it, and they just did to Mrs. Roque who is currently mobilizing the whole Laker Hockey planet against her employers' decision, using the resources of the school.
The budget ? If he was so frustrated, why didn't Roque just go somewhere else and get paid twice as much with a lot of pocket money to spend ? Because nobody would open is mails.
Roque not getting support from the AD ... come on. Does that imply trusting blindly a master in tricks and manipulation ?
The AD has no clue about what is going on in Roque's office. She doesn't ask, he doesn't tell ...
She may not really care, and she should be blamed for not having been a real boss, just caring about staying away from a ticking bomb, instead of addressing his destructive methods and dramatically poor ethics, not to mention his liking for intimidation, including on her. Roque's relation to bosses is not his best argument for finding a job.
But again, Dunbar has an easy defense in the confusing position of the President backing Roque on troubling matters.
So now, Roque is leaving at last, he may or may not get another job in the industry, depending on how much his bluffing talent can hide his dirty laundry. He may also have a hard time hiding away from some serious issues running after him.
As far as the program is concerned, it is probably too late for a div 1 team to turn around in an environment without decent leadership.
It is easy to blame the AD (and partially right), but who has done anything to address the downward drifting of the program and the known issues.
The top management ? The community ? The fans ? The blueliners ? Ah ! they "don't do politics", they don't wanna know about it.
Since the boot, a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks are on the field ... with some aggressive recruits. So far, they didn't see the point in looking beyond Ws and Ls.
They won't be of any help to the next coach unless they find out that Ws and Ls are only the tip of the iceberg. No hockey skill can justify or make up for coaching gaps and personality disorder. Who cares about the harm caused to players trapped in the hands of a madman, but only fools ignore the impact of poor ethics, horrible communication or hopeless leadership on Ws and Ls, and that is just about the team dynamics.
Don't forget about the scapegoats he plays with for the fun.
The root causes of the collapse are there to stay, maybe because only Roque is leaving now, but mainly because he was there.
Everybody has been complacent too long, and probably the Roque clan got used to it, hence their anger. They should have thought about their mortgage before.
At the moment, Mrs Roque and a squad of more or less independent supporters are trying to mobilize support on their working hours, but it is unlikely that anybody will remind them their loyalty duty.
That's the way it goes when there is no leadership, no care. Today is a bad day for the Roque clan, but they have taken advantage of the system so long that they shouldn't complain.
By the way, since our very active activist newcomers mentioned Joe Shawhan's degrees, may we have a scan of Roque's degree ?
He may not need it in the future, but who knows, he may be lucky.
There you go !
(I am not going to argue back and forth, so don't expect me to play the game, especially the newcomer)
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