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    If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    There are more rumblings about the BCS conferences leaving the NCAA to form their own division or whatever they want to call it. Reports say that the decision could come within 6 months. Besides the Big 10, this would affect BC and possibly Notre Dame. That's a lot of star power to be lured away. What do you think the defection of these schools would mean to NCAA hockey?
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by komey1 View Post
    There are more rumblings about the BCS conferences leaving the NCAA to form their own division or whatever they want to call it. Reports say that the decision could come within 6 months. Besides the Big 10, this would affect BC and possibly Notre Dame. That's a lot of star power to be lured away. What do you think the defection of these schools would mean to NCAA hockey?
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    Good riddance. Can they take North Dakota and Denver too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davyd83 View Post
    Good riddance. Can they take North Dakota and Denver too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davyd83 View Post
    Good riddance. Can they take North Dakota and Denver too?
    Then you might as well be D-3 hockey.
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by komey1 View Post
    There are more rumblings about the BCS conferences leaving the NCAA to form their own division or whatever they want to call it. Reports say that the decision could come within 6 months. Besides the Big 10, this would affect BC and possibly Notre Dame. That's a lot of star power to be lured away. What do you think the defection of these schools would mean to NCAA hockey?
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by komey1 View Post
    There are more rumblings about the BCS conferences leaving the NCAA to form their own division or whatever they want to call it. Reports say that the decision could come within 6 months. Besides the Big 10, this would affect BC and possibly Notre Dame. That's a lot of star power to be lured away. What do you think the defection of these schools would mean to NCAA hockey?
    Not up on this 100% but it seems they would just leave the NCAA for football (or form their silly old Div. 4 for football only since they are apparently able to re-write all the rules) and it would have no impact on the other sports. I would think it best for them to stay in NCAA DI for the rest and they will certainly do what's bet for themselves.

    So basically football becomes a high-revenue club sport at those schools and the rest carry on as normal??

    Of course we would then have another group pondering the basketball equivalent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by komey1 View Post
    There are more rumblings about the BCS conferences leaving the NCAA to form their own division or whatever they want to call it. Reports say that the decision could come within 6 months. Besides the Big 10, this would affect BC and possibly Notre Dame. That's a lot of star power to be lured away. What do you think the defection of these schools would mean to NCAA hockey?
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/big-12s...85--ncaaf.html

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    Another horse article... These things don't need to happen and they haven't been additionally imperiled by current patterns... Their situation is the best they've ever had it and regardless will continue to improve.

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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    There is plenty of incentive for college athletic conferences to leave the NCAA. Follow the money: According to NCAA.org the 14-year contract with Turner/CBS Sports will yield 10.8 billion dollars. Last year the NCAA had 871.6 million dollars in revenue, 81% of which came from TV [Turner/CBS] and marketing rights. A college athletic conference which broke with the NCAA would be free to negotiate its own, perhaps more lucrative TV and marketing contracts, and also pocket the percentage currently paid to the middleman - the NCAA.
    Despite previous court decisions the various college athletic conferences are not obliged by law to be the indentured servants of the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osorojo View Post
    There is plenty of incentive for college athletic conferences to leave the NCAA. Follow the money: According to NCAA.org the 14-year contract with Turner/CBS Sports will yield 10.8 billion dollars. Last year the NCAA had 871.6 million dollars in revenue, 81% of which came from TV [Turner/CBS] and marketing rights. A college athletic conference which broke with the NCAA would be free to negotiate its own, perhaps more lucrative TV and marketing contracts, and also pocket the percentage currently paid to the middleman - the NCAA.
    Despite previous court decisions the various college athletic conferences are not obliged by law to be the indentured servants of the NCAA.
    If you take the 64 programs that are powers / money rakers in foottball and basketball and they form the Network Athletic Union, you can bet that E$PN, Fox $ports, TB$, TNT, and NBC$N will throw stupid money at the NAU to get the big 2 sports and then be forced to cover the rest.

    Hockey-wise
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    BC, UConn, Miami (?)

    So you'd look at 8 or 9 hockey schools. That's not enough, but IMO, the NCAA is not going to let sports stay in the NCAA if the schools pull the money rakers out of the NCAA. It will be an all or nothing approach.
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    If you take the 64 programs that are powers / money rakers in foottball and basketball and they form the Network Athletic Union, you can bet that E$PN, Fox $ports, TB$, TNT, and NBC$N will throw stupid money at the NAU to get the big 2 sports and then be forced to cover the rest.

    Hockey-wise
    B1G (6)
    BC, UConn, Miami (?)

    So you'd look at 8 or 9 hockey schools. That's not enough, but IMO, the NCAA is not going to let sports stay in the NCAA if the schools pull the money rakers out of the NCAA. It will be an all or nothing approach.
    Maybe if this was 1973.

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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    They aren't going anywhere. This is more posturing by the big guys to force the little guys to do what they want them to do. Same old song and dance.

    The likely outcome will be another level of football, or a reduction from the top level to join with the FCS. I think ALL other sports remain as they are; especially basketball. In BBall it is in everyone's best interest to keep the NCAA tourney the way it is, cinderella teams attract viewers as do the titans of the sport; it is a win win for all involved there.

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    Then why wouldn't Cinderellas attract attention in football?
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by SNHUPenman View Post
    They aren't going anywhere. This is more posturing by the big guys to force the little guys to do what they want them to do. Same old song and dance.

    The likely outcome will be another level of football, or a reduction from the top level to join with the FCS. I think ALL other sports remain as they are; especially basketball. In BBall it is in everyone's best interest to keep the NCAA tourney the way it is, cinderella teams attract viewers as do the titans of the sport; it is a win win for all involved there.
    I guess the point is that the smaller D1 schools won't stand up to the big conferences...because they want the publicity that the big schools have in spades. As a result, there will probably be an ongoing shift of benefits to the big 5 conferences.
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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Lots of smoke here...meh. Discussion -> concessions -> big busine$$ as usual. Why the thread title when no one is even close to talking about leaving the NCAA?

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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleRay View Post
    Then why wouldn't Cinderellas attract attention in football?
    Because they just assign bowl games, and the media arbitrarily picks one as the national championship. You'd only see Cinderellas in the FCS format.

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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    The 2014 ECAC hockey championship games will be broadcast by Fox news. Welcome news after the long lack of coverage by the CBS/Turner/NCAA cabal. Diversity and competition does have advantages over monopoly, but after last year's playoffs I'll miss all the hidebound critics of the "EZAC."

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    Re: If the BCS schools leave the NCAA, where does it leave hockey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Osorojo View Post
    The 2014 ECAC hockey championship games will be broadcast by Fox news. Welcome news after the long lack of coverage by the CBS/Turner/NCAA cabal. Diversity and competition does have advantages over monopoly, but after last year's playoffs I'll miss all the hidebound critics of the "EZAC."
    First off, it's not Fox Snooze, it's FSC Atlantic. Second, they did this last year. Third, I'd put money on at least one person being a critic of the EZAC.

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