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MavsFan
04-17-2012, 12:48 AM
Finishing first in the new WCHA is kind of like finishing first in the Mid American conference in football. Impressive when compared to the teams in your own league, not that impressive when compared to the best teams in college hockey.How quickly Omaha fans have developed an unearned arrogance.

kdilks
04-17-2012, 12:51 AM
Finishing first in the new WCHA is kind of like finishing first in the Mid American conference in football. Impressive when compared to the teams in your own league, not that impressive when compared to the best teams in college hockey.

Spoken by an expert on not being that impressive compared to the best teams in college hockey.

The Rube
04-17-2012, 12:55 AM
How quickly Omaha fans have developed an unearned arrogance.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/youtube-18.jpg

Red Cows
04-17-2012, 01:51 AM
Interesting thread, from the perspective here in Omaha.

A little history lesson for all as far as the Blais/Guentzel/Hastings UNO conjecture.

For those that don't already know this, both Guentzel and Hastings have long and storied histories with the Omaha Lancers.

From Guentzel's Gopher bio:


Prior to his first stint at Minnesota, Guentzel spent two seasons as head coach and general manager of the Omaha Lancers of the USHL from 1992-94. He led the Lancers to a combined 89-39-2 record, including a 23-11 mark in postseason playoff action. In his first season, Omaha won both the regular season and playoff championships.

The Lancers also won the title in his 2nd season as well. The Assistant Coach of the Lancers then? None other than Mike Hastings.

From Mike Hastings UNO bio (which is still up):


Prior to joining the Mavericks, Hastings spent one season as an assistant coach at the University of Minnesota. His return to Omaha marked the return to some of the most fertile hockey ground in his career. He spent 14 years as the coach of the Omaha Lancers where he became the winningest coach in the history of the United States Hockey League. He never had a losing season in Omaha, compiling a career record of 529-210-56. He led the Lancers to the USHL’s Clark Cup championship during his final season of 2007-08, one of three playoff championships during his time in Omaha.

Hastings won two junior hockey national championships with the Lancers prior to the current league tiering system. He was twice named the USHL’s Coach of the Year and as the team’s general manager, was named the league’s GM of the year five times. During his time with the Lancers, he developed 35 National Hockey League draft picks.

Hastings was inducted into the Omaha Hockey Hall of Fame in 2009.

These two guys walk on water in this town.

As an interesting sidebar to all of this, who do you suppose was Guentzel's predecessor with the Lancers? None other than Frank Serratore of Air Force, who authored up a one season turnaround from last place to a Clark Cup championship himself in 1990 with the Lancers. When Air Force came to play UNO in 1998 and in 1999, Coach Serratore got big ovations in pregame intros.

While Serratore, Guentzel and Hastings were winning all these titles, the Omaha Lancers became and are, by far, the most successful franchise in USHL history. The Omaha Lancers sold out 241 straight games during this time frame at the old Aksarben Coliseum, capacity 6,124!!! I am dead serious, you had to buy tickets from scalpers back then. They were almost impossible to get. That's better than all but 9 NCAA teams last season (including UNO). The Lancers hold every attendance record the league has.

I bring all this up because of all the Blais and "how long is he gonna be at UNO?" speculation I've seen here.

It was widely speculated that Coach Blais was going to retire here after coaching through the end of 2013-2014 season and Coach Hastings was openly referred to here as the "Head Coach in Waiting".

When UNO was in North Dakota earlier this season, Coach Blais publicly rebuked this out of the clear blue sky when asked about it there by the press and said that there wasn't any real timeline for his retirement and that he didn't know how long he'd stay here, just that this is his last stop.

My thinking is that this statement probably played a role in Hastings deciding to take the Mankato job, much like Will Muschamp got tired of waiting around for Mack Brown to step aside.

For whatever it's worth, Mankato Fan, Hastings was in charge of the power play and the defense at UNO, the team's two Achilles Heels this year. It'll be interesting to see how he does on his own at the NCAA level.

My bet is that Hastings probably thinks he can make Mankato a player in the "new" WCHA since I believe the competition level will be pretty watered down from the "old" WCHA. Plus, there's nothing like having "The Buck Stops Here" sign on your desk.

All this said, when Blais decides to leave, unless it is something like 10 years hence, IMHO, I think that Serratore, Guentzel, or Hastings are all guys that would be interested in the UNO job. Any of them would be wildly popular choices with the fanbase here because of their extensive, successful histories here. Guentzel, and Hastings, in particular, are household names.

These guys, from their own prior personal experiences here, know what kind of a hockey town this is (despite what a lot of, in particular, fans of this or that Minnesota school's posters in this Forum might think of UNO and their fans) and that it is something of a sleeping giant. We play in the 2nd largest building in the NCAA, we have a gigantic booster club, the largest in all of college hockey, play in a centrally located major metropolitan area, and, last season, was the 4th largest draw in all of college hockey and we have been in the top 10 in attendance every year since the program's inception.

Anybody who thinks the head coaching job at Air Force or Minnesota State Mankato, or, an assistant's job at Minnesota is a better gig than the head coaching job here isn't looking at the situation objectively. Why do you think Coach Blais came here in the first place? How did UNO get in the NCHC in the first place given our somewhat meager "historical" program legacy and why is the conference tournament for the new league probably going to be here?

Because of all the groundwork, good will, and hard work laid out and done here in Omaha in the past 20+ years by Messr's Serratore, Guentzel, Hastings, & Blais.

SCSU Euro
04-17-2012, 10:05 AM
For the record, I've been one of those to take shots at UNO's fans, but I don't think that Omaha is a horrible hockey town. I'm saying that the UNO fans I met didn't understand quite a bit of the game; getting loud and going to games is awesome and they do that, but knowing the nuances and really being a part of hockey culture is a different thing. Hopefully they get there, and I've never been to a Lancers game, and for all I know those fans get that.

Bale
04-17-2012, 10:07 AM
Meh, I love when people talk about premier jobs and how this job is better than that job. It's all objective. Subjectivity has nothing to do with it. Hastings may love it in Mankato and become just as much of an icon in Kato. He and his family may fall in love with Mankato as a city and quality of life. Guentzel may love being in the metro area of the TC over going to Omaha. And Serratore may love the structure the Air Force provides. None of us know. The better job and lifestyle is in the eye of the beholder. As for why UNO got into the NCHC, isn't it pretty obvious? They sold out the rest of their programs to support hockey and load money into the program. Same thing with SCSU. They almost did the same thing and eliminated football because the numbers aren't working out well. It's all about the money. nothing more, nothing less. Blais didn't just go to UNO because he liked the program, it's because they paid him big bucks. The word is that he wanted to come to Kato too....they just wouldn't give him the cash.

I'm not saying UNO doesn't deserve to do well or that it's a bad place for people to go, but that is the other side of being subjective.

tunahead08
04-17-2012, 04:57 PM
Finishing first in the new WCHA is kind of like finishing first in the Mid American conference in football. Impressive when compared to the teams in your own league, not that impressive when compared to the best teams in college hockey.

Since when does Nebraska-Omaha have any bragging rights? A couple of mediocre seasons and all the sudden you think you are worthy of cocking off? How many teams from the NCHC were in the Frozen Four this year? Finishing first in the nWCHA will be better than you guys finishing 5th or 6th in your shiny new conference and not making the NCAA tourney.

4four4
04-17-2012, 10:44 PM
Meh, I love when people talk about premier jobs and how this job is better than that job. It's all objective. Subjectivity has nothing to do with it. Hastings may love it in Mankato and become just as much of an icon in Kato. He and his family may fall in love with Mankato as a city and quality of life. Guentzel may love being in the metro area of the TC over going to Omaha. And Serratore may love the structure the Air Force provides. None of us know. The better job and lifestyle is in the eye of the beholder. As for why UNO got into the NCHC, isn't it pretty obvious? They sold out the rest of their programs to support hockey and load money into the program. Same thing with SCSU. They almost did the same thing and eliminated football because the numbers aren't working out well. It's all about the money. nothing more, nothing less. Blais didn't just go to UNO because he liked the program, it's because they paid him big bucks. The word is that he wanted to come to Kato too....they just wouldn't give him the cash.

I'm not saying UNO doesn't deserve to do well or that it's a bad place for people to go, but that is the other side of being subjective.

We all know the best and hardest job is Minnesota.

state of hockey
04-18-2012, 10:09 AM
We all know the best and hardest job is Minnesota.

Prostitution?

Bale
04-18-2012, 10:22 AM
We all know the best and hardest job is Minnesota.

OK? Congratulations? I think...

Biddco
04-18-2012, 11:43 AM
Prostitution?

CEO of Best Buy? 3M?

MavHockey14
04-19-2012, 01:09 AM
CEO of Best Buy? 3M?

Pretty sure thy Beat Buy CEO job is open..:p