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manurespreader
03-01-2012, 10:30 AM
continue.

manurespreader
03-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Shirtless to answer the question, I believe they submit a list ahead of time and just delete names from it at the last minute, but I don't know for sure. Group travel has a few quirks.
Another thing they do is that as tickets sell, the computer tracks the rate of sale and if the rate rises above a certain low limit the price goes up. So two people can go on the web to buy tickets and one gets it for say 300 dollars and two minutes later it's 350. It even tracks interest so even if they do not sell a ticket, the fact that you looked into the price on a certain city pair will affect the end price. I was buying tickets to go to spring training last week and the price changed in the middle of the search.

mtu_huskies
03-01-2012, 12:54 PM
From Stephen Anderson's article today: Likteig will play on Friday Chad Pietila and Jimmy Davis are the extra skaters traveling with the team

Shirtless Guy
03-01-2012, 02:48 PM
Apparently the Huskies did fly to Denver...team just landed a little while ago.

ColoToot
03-01-2012, 03:32 PM
I am guessing we will also have a third goalie, since it is spring break.

bigblue_dl
03-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Does the school bank all of the frequent flyer miles?

manurespreader
03-01-2012, 05:50 PM
If they get them, most likely yes, but they might be able to trade them away for a slightly cheaper fare.

The airlines watch seat inventory very closely, so when you take 40% out of inventory, as you would on a city pair that is served by RJ aircraft, they will want to charge you almost the walk up fare. So really teams can fly direct into Houghton, but because the fare is so high they choose to go by bus or at least part way by bus. Thus you get the shenanigans that Blais pulled, driving all over creation to get there.

In this case, Tech might have paid twice for the bus to msp. One round trip down there, and one round trip to pick them up, because I can't see the bus company leaving the bus in minnesota for almost a week.( Unless the bus company has nothing else to do with it on those days), so they might fly back into Houghton, we'll see.

Bus costs are going up rapidly due to the costs of fuel, not to mention the cost of busses. So you can expect the bus prices to go over 4 dollars in a year or two.
Also, air service to remote cities is on the chopping block in Washington. The airlines lose a ton of money serving these cities, so the fed govt subsidizes the flights to the tune of over $1000 per passenger. As soon as the budget axe falls on this subsidy, you will see air service drop by a ton.
Right now the criteria is if the city is within I think it's one hour drive of an airport with un subsidized service, but there is a lot of support to up the distance. It's really not fair to ask someone in suburban LA to drive two hours to the airport but then say to someone in Houghton that the tax-payer will pay so you don't have to drive an equal time to marquette.

Shirtless Guy
03-01-2012, 06:15 PM
If they get them, most likely yes, but they might be able to trade them away for a slightly cheaper fare.

The airlines watch seat inventory very closely, so when you take 40% out of inventory, as you would on a city pair that is served by RJ aircraft, they will want to charge you almost the walk up fare. So really teams can fly direct into Houghton, but because the fare is so high they choose to go by bus or at least part way by bus. Thus you get the shenanigans that Blais pulled, driving all over creation to get there.

In this case, Tech might have paid twice for the bus to msp. One round trip down there, and one round trip to pick them up, because I can't see the bus company leaving the bus in minnesota for almost a week.( Unless the bus company has nothing else to do with it on those days), so they might fly back into Houghton, we'll see.

Bus costs are going up rapidly due to the costs of fuel, not to mention the cost of busses. So you can expect the bus prices to go over 4 dollars in a year or two.
Also, air service to remote cities is on the chopping block in Washington. The airlines lose a ton of money serving these cities, so the fed govt subsidizes the flights to the tune of over $1000 per passenger. As soon as the budget axe falls on this subsidy, you will see air service drop by a ton.
Right now the criteria is if the city is within I think it's one hour drive of an airport with un subsidized service, but there is a lot of support to up the distance. It's really not fair to ask someone in suburban LA to drive two hours to the airport but then say to someone in Houghton that the tax-payer will pay so you don't have to drive an equal time to marquette.Isn't Marquette subsidized?

geezer
03-01-2012, 06:29 PM
Isn't Marquette subsidized?

I think Marquette is the only airport in the UP that isn't subsidized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Air_Service). Probably soon to be the only airport in the UP.

manurespreader
03-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Not that I could find. the Michigan subsidized airports are: Houghton, Iron Mtn, Escanaba, Ironwood, ludington, and one or two more. I couldn't find mqt on the list. there are also a number of them in Minnesota, including Bemidji.
The actual verbiage is air hub, whatever that means.

To be honest I expect that within 5 years the entire program will be phased out, course who knows with politics. Even the FAA is on record as favoring dismantling the program.

bigblue_dl
03-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Yah, I know it sucks for some people if those airports are phased out, but I think it is probably a good idea. $1000 per passenger just so people don't have to drive two hours to Marquette? Sorry, I just don't think it is worth it. (same goes for the equivalent airports in MN, WI, etc.)

manurespreader
03-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Yah, I know it sucks for some people if those airports are phased out, but I think it is probably a good idea. $1000 per passenger just so people don't have to drive two hours to Marquette? Sorry, I just don't think it is worth it. (same goes for the equivalent airports in MN, WI, etc.)
To be fair the 1000 is the national average, Houghton is likely much lower, More like 100 or 2.. The total subsidy for Houghton is about 1.4 million. And marquette isn't considered an air hub, Milwaukee is. So Houghton would be safe for a while until the program goes away entirely.

geezer
03-01-2012, 07:37 PM
To be fair the 1000 is the national average, Houghton is likely much lower, More like 100 or 2.. The total subsidy for Houghton is about 1.4 million. And marquette isn't considered an air hub, Milwaukee is. So Houghton would be safe for a while until the program goes away entirely.

Yes, CMX is very close to profitability - close enough that Michigan Tech might be able to do something to keep it in business even without the subsidies. The average is bumped way up by places like Ely, MN where you're flying a regular shuttle to MSP for 3 or 4 people.

oldish husky
03-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Yes, CMX is very close to profitability - close enough that Michigan Tech might be able to do something to keep it in business even without the subsidies. The average is bumped way up by places like Ely, MN where you're flying a regular shuttle to MSP for 3 or 4 people.

It is close. Management has been talking about what it would take in terms of increasing demand to get out of the subsidy before it gets taken away.

bigblue_dl
03-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Yes, CMX is very close to profitability - close enough that Michigan Tech might be able to do something to keep it in business even without the subsidies. The average is bumped way up by places like Ely, MN where you're flying a regular shuttle to MSP for 3 or 4 people.I imagine there are several others that are similar to Ely in other parts of the country also.

geezer
03-01-2012, 08:06 PM
I imagine there are several others that are similar to Ely in other parts of the country also.

yes, I don't want to pick on Ely. That's my kinda place. I was enormously pleased with my fully outfitted week in the boundary waters out of the outfitter in Ely. My only advice with the "fully outfitted" thing is that you either plan on losing 25 pounds, or pack a lot of M&Ms and jerky and whatnot because you are NOT going to catch enough walleye to make up for the skimpy rations. Actually, you might, but then you won't have time for anything else but fishing. There's not a whole lot of paddling calories in a walleye.
Anyway...

manurespreader
03-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Also the majors are ditching the 50 seat airplanes. They cost too much, and even when completely full, lose money because there are too few passengers to cover the overhead and so the overhead per passenger is so high they lose money., So they are cutting hundreds of those airplanes out and replacing them with 70 seaters. The chances are that mqt will get bigger with more service from these 70 seat airplanes, with lower air fares. The fares in the small airports are likely to increase more than the fares at mqt.

bigblue_dl
03-01-2012, 08:12 PM
yes, I don't want to pick on Ely. That's my kinda place. I was enormously pleased with my fully outfitted week in the boundary waters out of the outfitter in Ely. My only advice with the "fully outfitted" thing is that you either plan on losing 25 pounds, or pack a lot of M&Ms and jerky and whatnot because you are NOT going to catch enough walleye to make up for the skimpy rations. Actually, you might, but then you won't have time for anything else but fishing. There's not a whole lot of paddling calories in a walleye.
Anyway...Yeah, I know that you're not picking on Ely, really, that is a place that there doesn't need to be air service to.

FadeToBlack&Gold
03-01-2012, 08:35 PM
I looked that place up on Google Maps. How the heck do the handful of people living in that region not have to travel to Intl. Falls or Duluth to fly out?

FadeToBlack&Gold
03-01-2012, 08:41 PM
Also, I'm gonna dredge this one up, because I remembered it from the coach search threads last year:


Pearson apparently thinks it would take 3-5 years to get the program to .500 hockey.

The team is .500 in the league, and two wins away from .500 overall.

:D ;)

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