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Vulcanized Rubber
02-29-2012, 10:14 AM
This team is based on there full careers. I'd be interested to know how many would be on an All Time College Allstar Team.

GOAL - Ken Dryden. Close on with Frank Brimsek, Tony Esposito and Ed Belfour.

DEFENSE - Brain Leetch, Chris Chelios. Another close one with Phil Housely and Rod Langway.

FORWARD - Joe Niewendyk (Centre), Brett Hull and Joe Mullen.

ScoobyDoo
02-29-2012, 10:20 AM
This team is based on there full careers. I'd be interested to know how many would be on an All Time College Allstar Team.

GOAL - Ken Dryden. Close on with Frank Brimsek, Tony Esposito and Ed Belfour.

DEFENSE - Brain Leetch, Chris Chelios. Another close one with Phil Housely and Rod Langway.

FORWARD - Joe Niewendyk (Centre), Brett Hull and Joe Mullen.

Phil Housley never played college hockey.

Vulcanized Rubber
02-29-2012, 10:25 AM
Thank you sir....St Paul Vulcans. Was it called USHL back then?

Red Cloud
02-29-2012, 10:30 AM
That seems like a really small team.

William Blake
02-29-2012, 10:32 AM
Best NHL players to play college or best college players?

FlagDUDE08
02-29-2012, 10:34 AM
That seems like a really small team.

What, hockey teams don't have 11 players, including 4 goaltenders? Next thing I know, I'll hear something incredibly crazy, like that hockey is played indoors. :D

ScoobyDoo
02-29-2012, 10:34 AM
Best NHL players to play college or best college players?

Except for Phil Housley who never played college hockey.

Vulcanized Rubber
02-29-2012, 10:38 AM
Best NHL players to play college or best college players?

Players who played college.....would be interested to see if any would make an all star team based on their college careers. I don't know enough about D1 history to make that call. Perhaps someone would post that team. Would any of these players make it? It opens it up to a whole generation of young players. Is Ryan Miller the best college goalkeeper of all time?

Dirty
02-29-2012, 10:50 AM
Goal - Ed Belfour
Defense -Craig Ludwig, James Patrick
Forward - Greg Johnson, Jonathon Toews, Tony Hrkac

Fighting Sioux 23
02-29-2012, 10:58 AM
This team is based on there full careers. I'd be interested to know how many would be on an All Time College Allstar Team.

GOAL - Ken Dryden. Close on with Frank Brimsek, Tony Esposito and Ed Belfour.

DEFENSE - Brain Leetch, Chris Chelios. Another close one with Phil Housely and Rod Langway.

FORWARD - Joe Niewendyk (Centre), Brett Hull and Joe Mullen.

That's a pretty good list. If we were looking at players based only on when they were in college, I would go with something like this...

FORWARDS:
John Mayasich
Brandon Morrison
Tony Hrkac
Brian Gionta
Red Berenson
Brian Cornell
Neal Broten
Paul Kariya
Tom Ross
Jim Montgomery
Dallas Gaume
Ben Cherski

DEFENSEMEN:
Keith Magnuson
Jordan Leopold
Matt Greene
Mark Fusco
Dan Lodboa
Mike Mottau

GOALIES:
Ken Dryden
Ryan Miller

TylerDurden
02-29-2012, 11:20 AM
Phil Housley never played college hockey.

and thus was never scored against... an overwhelmingly excellent indicator of brilliance and superiority at the college level.

I used to brag that patric ewing never scored against me in my 3 years as a college basketball forward.

FreshFish
02-29-2012, 11:49 AM
This team is based on there full careers. I'd be interested to know how many would be on an All Time College Allstar Team.

sounds like you are getting responses for Division I college players after 1965 or some such date. Hard to figure out how also to include Division II and Division III players and also how to include players from the 1950s or earlier. Was Frank Chiarelli an all-time great forward whom few people can remember today because he set his scoring records in the early 1950s? or is he discounted from consideration because the game was somehow different back then?

Hokydad
02-29-2012, 11:50 AM
Ron Wilson from PC, still the all time leading scorer with 250 points, and a Dman to boot......

Osorojo
02-29-2012, 12:01 PM
This team is based on there full careers. I'd be interested to know how many would be on an All Time College Allstar Team.

GOAL - Ken Dryden. Close on with Frank Brimsek, Tony Esposito and Ed Belfour.

DEFENSE - Brain Leetch, Chris Chelios. Another close one with Phil Housely and Rod Langway.

FORWARD - Joe Niewendyk (Centre), Brett Hull and Joe Mullen.

Two of your six all-stars played in the ECAC for seven years. One played four years, the other three. Your other four college all-stars played a total of nine years of college hockey, one for four years, two for two years, one for one year. Does this mean the "EZAC" slur refers to the lax academic requirements of ECAC hockey, the Ivy League included (especially Cornell), rather than the quality of ECAC hockey?

J.D.
02-29-2012, 12:04 PM
Ron Wilson from PC, still the all time leading scorer with 250 points, and a Dman to boot......

250 points?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=7913

Did he have 153 in '74-'75?

FS23, I can't put Matt Greene on a list of all time great college dmen.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-29-2012, 12:07 PM
FS23, I can't put Matt Greene on a list of all time great college dmen.

If I was picking the six best defensmen of all-time, I would agree. I was trying to put together a team that was well rounded, and, at least IMO, there wasn't a better defensive-defensemen that I saw than Greene. Obviously, I saw Greene play a whole lot more than any of the others as well, so I'm naturally biased. :)

Fighting Sioux 23
02-29-2012, 12:08 PM
250 points?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=7913

Did he have 153 in '74-'75?


Considering that the all-time record for points in a season is 116, I'm going to guess no. :p:D:D

EDIT: According to Providence College's media guide (from 2008-2009)


Still the school's all-time leading scorer (250 points), he is sixth in career goals (78), first in assists (172) and holds ECAC records for: points by a defenseman (250), season points (87), season assists (61), and career assists (172). His 87 points and four, four-goal games are still PC standards. Wilson is the NCAA all-time leading scoring defenseman

hockeydb might be wrong then on some of those stats...perhaps confused with one of the other Wilsons that played for Providence.

mnstate0fhockey
02-29-2012, 12:11 PM
That's a pretty good list. If we were looking at players based only on when they were in college, I would go with something like this...

FORWARDS:
John Mayasich
Brandon Morrison
Tony Hrkac
Brian Gionta
Red Berenson
Brian Cornell
Neal Broten
Paul Kariya
Tom Ross
Jim Montgomery
Dallas Gaume
Ben Cherski

DEFENSEMEN:
Keith Magnuson
Jordan Leopold
Matt Greene
Mark Fusco
Dan Lodboa
Mike Mottau

GOALIES:
Ken Dryden
Ryan Miller

That's a pretty good list.

Ralph Baer
02-29-2012, 12:13 PM
Two of your six all-stars played in the ECAC for seven years. One played four years, the other three. Your other four college all-stars played a total of nine years of college hockey, one for four years, two for two years, one for one year. Does this mean the "EZAC" slur refers to the lax academic requirements of ECAC hockey, the Ivy League included (especially Cornell), rather than the quality of ECAC hockey?

FWIW, neither Dryden nor Nieuwendyk played in the ECAC for four years. Dryden wasn't eligible as a freshman, and Nieuwendyk left after his junior season.

bothman
02-29-2012, 12:23 PM
FWIW, neither Dryden nor Nieuwendyk played in the ECAC for four years. Dryden wasn't eligible as a freshman, and Nieuwendyk left after his junior season.

I would add Joe Cavanagh and Lane MacDonald to the list of forwards