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chickod
03-17-2012, 05:59 PM
Hmm... I haven't counted, but does BC really have fewer NHLers over the past decade than anyone else? Off the top of my head I can think of quite a few....

I think it is true, but I'm referring more to "prototypical" NHL players - meaning, bodies. BU tends to get bigger players who potentially would be drafted. Yes, I know Gerbe, etc, but in general. Unfortunately, many of these players turn out to not stick around very long, but at least they get there. That means when they're in college, they're thinking about the NHL from day one. I feel as though BC gets more guys who "want to play for BC." In other words, more continuity and players who stay longer. Heck, BU PROMOTES their program as a stepping-stone to the NHL. Years ago you got local guys who grew up cheering for BU and watching the Beanpot (guys from Charlestown, Southie, etc). Now there are only five Massachusetts players on the roster (and only two play). Five from New York and two each from Michigan and California. I can't imagine that these guys have any particular "allegiance" to BU and were probably lured by BU's track record of putting guys in the NHL.

There is no question that York gets his guys to play better as a TEAM, so don't think I'm bringing the NHL thing up to make excuses for Parker. But is IS a significant factor I feel...

DaveStPaul
03-17-2012, 07:52 PM
What happened on those two face-offs near the end? Chiasson won both of them, but not very strongly. I would expect the right play is for the closest point man to come get the puck. Both times, Clendening (I think) did not charge the puck, and we blew two great chances to set up a play with the goalie pulled. Frustrating.

That was frustrating. When Chiasson won that draw, right away it's like, "Yes! Now set it up!" And then it just sits there, floating away. "Somebody GET IT!!!" :mad:


Not sure what you were watching in the first 18 minutes. They had a few break in opportunities but BU was dominated by Maine for the whole period. BU had 6 shots on net.

I was watching, and I thought BU looked great, no disrespect to Maine. I thought Chiasson looked like a beast, totally and calmly in control; I thought Connolly was everywhere; I thought Millan was ON.


diamond would have gotten it for the hit after :p

First off I very much hope Abbott is going to be OK -- but that hit by Diamond was a really, really dangerous boarding. I was actually worried about Escobedo as the play went the other way, the way his back bent as he get smooshed into the wall.

mookie1995
03-17-2012, 07:57 PM
only close game right now is hu-onion. bu is gonna be #9. and gophs are gonna be #8. i don't see them flippin both. i think they move minnesota into the st paul region and keep bu in line (1/8/9/16) in worcester.

Scarlet
03-17-2012, 07:59 PM
only close game right now is hu-onion. bu is gonna be #9. and gophs are gonna be #8. i don't see them flippin both. i think they move minnesota into the st paul region and keep bu in line (1/8/9/16) in worcester.

You think? Don't they have to be there? They're the host.

mookie1995
03-17-2012, 08:01 PM
You think? Don't they have to be there? They're the host.

yes. "they move minnesota into the st paul region and keep bu in ... worcester". the 1 seed, 9 seed, and 16 seed will be in worcester. minnesota will not be.

Bomber
03-17-2012, 08:32 PM
yes. "they move minnesota into the st paul region and keep bu in ... worcester". the 1 seed, 9 seed, and 16 seed will be in worcester. minnesota will not be.

So if BU pays off someone to win the first game we're looking at BU-BC to go to the FF. Wonderful.

Scarlet
03-17-2012, 08:38 PM
So if BU pays off someone to win the first game we're looking at BU-BC to go to the FF. Wonderful.

Yeah, we all remember how well that went the last time that happened.

Terrier520
03-17-2012, 08:41 PM
So if BU pays off someone to win the first game we're looking at BU-BC to go to the FF. Wonderful.

This just means that BU can get its much-needed revenge on BC for the 2006....

... yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

mookie1995
03-17-2012, 09:18 PM
bu - afa for the trip to tampa! :p

Scarlet
03-17-2012, 09:20 PM
Federal League has BU going to St Paul. (http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/2012/03/pairwise-live-blog-2012/)

mookie1995
03-17-2012, 09:30 PM
Federal League has BU going to St Paul. (http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/2012/03/pairwise-live-blog-2012/)

that is one guess.

here is another one in the pwr thread
BC and UND win (potential swap of Cornell and Maine):
Worcester : 1) BC v 16) Air Force ;; 7) UMD v 9) BU
Bridgeport : 2) Union v 15) MSU ;; 6) Miami v 12) Cornell
Green Bay : 3) Michigan v 14) Lowell ;; 5) Ferris v 11) Denver
St Paul : 4) No Dakota v 13) W Michigan ;; 8) Minnesota v 10) Maine

and my ballot.
worcester
bc -afa
duluth - bu

bridgeport
union - sparty
miami (oh) - du

greenbay
michigan - cornell
ferris - maine

stpaul
sioux - western
gophs - chiefs

chickod
03-17-2012, 10:08 PM
This just means that BU can get its much-needed revenge on BC for the 2006....

... yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

Watching tonight's game almost makes my ranting irrelevant. BC just seems a level above everyone else, and if not for that anomaly against Colorado College last year we're probably looking at a 3-peat (I didn't check the records - has that EVER been done in college hockey)? Let's be honest - it's not about getting the BEST players - it's about getting players that complement each other to form a cohesive unit. I think perhaps ALL of these teams that think that recruiting NHL talent is the best way should think again. BC has continuity because their players STAY more than one or two years and they have now built a culture of success that only breeds more success. Just like teams have to adjust to a new offensive strategy (run and shoot, West Coast offense, no huddle, or the Patriots' use of the pass as a running game), they will have to adjust their thinking regarding how they recruit. If not, BC will keep winning every year. This goes beyond "fire Jack" or "fire Timmay." I am convinced now that it doesn't matter WHO the coach is - the culture must change if these schools are going to be competitive. Right now BC has an invincible program. That game tonight was a joke. They took the Maine crowd right out of the game and totally shut them down. Even when it was 2-1 Maine was really never in this game. Unbelievable...and you can hate BC all you want but you have to give them tremendous credit. They play when it matters most. Period.

Harry Cleverly
03-17-2012, 10:32 PM
that is one guess.

here is another one in the pwr thread
BC and UND win (potential swap of Cornell and Maine):
Worcester : 1) BC v 16) Air Force ;; 7) UMD v 9) BU
Bridgeport : 2) Union v 15) MSU ;; 6) Miami v 12) Cornell
Green Bay : 3) Michigan v 14) Lowell ;; 5) Ferris v 11) Denver
St Paul : 4) No Dakota v 13) W Michigan ;; 8) Minnesota v 10) Maine

and my ballot.
worcester
bc -afa
duluth - bu

bridgeport
union - sparty
miami (oh) - du

greenbay
michigan - cornell
ferris - maine

stpaul
sioux - western
gophs - chiefs

There are no drawing cards in Bridgeport. Are they going to have Union as the only Eastern team?
Maybe BU or Lowell to CT?

Draw integrity is one thing, but they still want fannies on seats.

chickod
03-17-2012, 10:35 PM
There are no drawing cards in Bridgeport. Are they going to have Union as the only Eastern team?
Maybe BU or Lowell to CT?

Draw integrity is one thing, but they still want fannies on seats.

And your point is??? You have a regional in Connecticut - there are NO teams in southern New England, New York City, New Jersey (except for Yale - and they're not in it) - what do you expect? Who would you put there that will make a difference? It an eight hour drive for Maine fans. It's two hours beyond Worcester which means most BU fans won't go. Nobody will come from the West because they'll put their eggs and money in the Frozen Four basket. When you hold a regional where there is only ONE local school with a chance to get it...too bad. I can think of about five places better suited to have this (Providence, Manchester, Lake Placid, Albany, Buffalo). Morons... (not you, the NCAA) :)

DaveStPaul
03-17-2012, 11:22 PM
BU in Saint Paul -- I like it! Let's make it happen. Who's coming if that's the case?

Bomber
03-17-2012, 11:38 PM
BU in Saint Paul -- I like it! Let's make it happen. Who's coming if that's the case?

*thumbs up*

mookie1995
03-17-2012, 11:39 PM
$500 rt on delta. heading out saturday morning, return sunday night.

J.D.
03-17-2012, 11:57 PM
Chickod, I know what you're saying--and I agree. But if I'm understanding you correctly, I think you're underestimating just how many current NHLers are BC guys. There's quite a few.

i can see that mookie REALLY wants BU staying east, but i happen to agree with the USCHO guy. i think it's st. paul for you guys.

chickod
03-18-2012, 12:03 AM
Chickod, I know what you're saying--and I agree. But if I'm understanding you correctly, I think you're underestimating just how many current NHLers are BC guys. There's quite a few.

Possibly...


i can see that mookie REALLY wants BU staying east, but i happen to agree with the USCHO guy. i think it's st. paul for you guys.

I say St. Paul - BU has been a .500 team since January 27 (8-8)...if it's anything like basketball, in "tiebreaker" situations they usually give weight to how you are playing at the end of the season - and let me just get in my little shot again at all you people obsessed with the PWR. When I said it's more important to WIN GAMES, this is what I meant.

And by the way, that's a BRUTAL draw. Good luck winning a game out there...

Scarlet
03-18-2012, 09:05 AM
BU in Saint Paul -- I like it! Let's make it happen. Who's coming if that's the case?

Me!!!


*thumbs up*

Seriously?? You'd go?? Call me later today.


$500 rt on delta. heading out saturday morning, return sunday night.

If we go, I'm flying home Monday. What time is the game on Sunday? And no, that doesn't mean I expect to be playing. It means I'm going for the two games. We should all chat about rooms, maybe a rental car as well.