Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

[Sir Nubs]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Interesting story in the Stevens Point Journal today saying that St. Scholastica, Northland, Finlandia and Marian are expected to be invited to join the WIAC for hockey. Kind of one glaring omission there. Also interesting was quote from AD saying now they have an opportunity to win championships. Don't they have that now in the NCHA?

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/sports/article?a=2012202160568&f=573

[Hammer]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

So....they're leaving the two private schools in their conference, then inviting one back, plus three more private schools, killing another conference in the process?

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Interesting story in the Stevens Point Journal today saying that St. Scholastica, Northland, Finlandia and Marian are expected to be invited to join the WIAC for hockey. Kind of one glaring omission there. Also interesting was quote from AD saying now they have an opportunity to win championships. Don't they have that now in the NCHA?

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/s...02160568&f=573

I'd say there are two glaring omissions there if we are considering MCHA schools.

[Matt Rennell]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Interesting story in the Stevens Point Journal today saying that St. Scholastica, Northland, Finlandia and Marian are expected to be invited to join the WIAC for hockey. Kind of one glaring omission there. Also interesting was quote from AD saying now they have an opportunity to win championships. Don't they have that now in the NCHA?

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/s...02160568&f=573

Translation...."We can't beat St. Norbert so we are taking our puck and going home and also forming our own league and crowning our own champion each year."

Congrats UW-XXX you can win the WIAC, too bad your NCAA title hopes are now a mere pipe-dream and you have no one to blame but yourselves. Of course, as you admit, you weren't winning anything to begin with so really there is no difference.

[Hammer]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

If I'm in the MIAC and MCHA front offices, I'm placing multiple calls to my resident members and reminding (and thanking) them with regards to their conference loyalty, and reminding them of that little thing called the Automatic Qualifier that our conference currently has. I'd also mention how it's such a shame about the NCHA breaking up, what with those 5 Wisconsin schools now being without an AQ for a few years, and a minimal chance of NCAA participation, along with anyone that joins them, since they would be in the same boat. And if I'm on the phone with a private institution, I let it drop that the state schools of Wisconsin are leaving the two private schools out in the cold....

And then my very next phone calls are to the athletic departments in De Pere and Duluth, suggesting that we get together real, real soon and have lunch.

[elbojpb]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

It will be virtually impossible to schedule 25 games as a lone independent in Division III hockey.

If I'm not mistaken, Morrisville, in their first year, played essentially as an independent, finished their season in mid-January, and didn't come close to 25 games.

[Matt Rennell]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

If I'm in the MIAC and MCHA front offices, I'm placing multiple calls to my resident members and reminding (and thanking) them with regards to their conference loyalty, and reminding them of that little thing called the Automatic Qualifier that our conference currently has. I'd also mention how it's such a shame about the NCHA breaking up, what with those 5 Wisconsin schools now being without an AQ for a few years, and a minimal chance of NCAA participation, along with anyone that joins them, since they would be in the same boat. And if I'm on the phone with a private institution, I let it drop that the state schools of Wisconsin are leaving the two private schools out in the cold....

And then my very next phone calls are to the athletic departments in De Pere and Duluth, suggesting that we get together real, real soon and have lunch.

You aren't kidding, because if that report in the Stevens Point paper comes to fruition, that leaves 5 MCHA schools and SNC without an AQ. I would then envision SNC would get the Adrian treatment and not be able to get the Wis. schools on their schedule. As a result their SOS would be so low it would require a near perfect season to have a remote shot at a Pool C berth, as there would be no Pool B. Even then, they likely wouldn't get a bid, as proven by Adrian a few years ago.

The pendulum of power could swing drastically if the WIAC is able to pilfer 3 MCHA schools.

[Hammer]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

If I'm not mistaken, Morrisville, in their first year, played essentially as an independent, finished their season in mid-January, and didn't come close to 25 games.

Close

[Hammer]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

You aren't kidding, because if that report in the Stevens Point paper comes to fruition, that leaves 5 MCHA schools and SNC without an AQ. I would then envision SNC would get the Adrian treatment and not be able to get the Wis. schools on their schedule. As a result their SOS would be so low it would require a near perfect season to have a remote shot at a Pool C berth, as there would be no Pool B. Even then, they likely wouldn't get a bid, as proven by Adrian a few years ago.

The pendulum of power could swing drastically if the WIAC is able to pilfer 3 MCHA schools.

And if that report is anything close to true, if I'm in the SNC athletic department, I'm on the phone with the boys over at St. Schollies, and trying to work as a package deal. I'd try to work a deal to the MCHA to get them to 7, taking either both schools or none, and then offering the same deal to the MIAC if the MCHA balks.

[Toe Blake's Brother]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

And if that report is anything close to true, if I'm in the SNC athletic department, I'm on the phone with the boys over at St. Schollies, and trying to work as a package deal. I'd try to work a deal to the MCHA to get them to 7, taking either both schools or none, and then offering the same deal to the MIAC if the MCHA balks.

+1

[pete99race]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Interesting story in the Stevens Point Journal today saying that St. Scholastica, Northland, Finlandia and Marian are expected to be invited to join the WIAC for hockey. Kind of one glaring omission there. Also interesting was quote from AD saying now they have an opportunity to win championships. Don't they have that now in the NCHA?

Maybe he was misquoted, because what he said makes no sense whatsoever.
Esp. with Point having a tradition of winning Ntl Championships (although not recently).

[elbojpb]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

I stand ... err sit corrected. that was also Becker's first year; hence the 4 games with them.

[pete99race]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

And if that report is anything close to true, if I'm in the SNC athletic department, I'm on the phone with the boys over at St. Schollies, and trying to work as a package deal. I'd try to work a deal to the MCHA to get them to 7, taking either both schools or none, and then offering the same deal to the MIAC if the MCHA balks.

I like the package deal option....more leverage for both schools.
I know that these two schools have had a very strong hockey relationship over the years.

[Toe Blake's Brother]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Maybe he was misquoted, because what he said makes no sense whatsoever.
Esp. with Point having a tradition of winning Ntl Championships (although not recently).

Pete:

I can certainly understand your thoughts on misquotes as this does not make any sense. However, the break up of the NCHA does not make sense either. Now is not the time for misquotes if this is indeed what has happened.

[elbojpb]

Re: Good Bye NCHA, Hello WIAC. Grab a life vest SNC and CSS!

Also interesting was quote from AD saying now they have an opportunity to win championships. Don't they have that now in the NCHA?

Not with SNC in the mix ... read the 1 comment that was posted in the StevensPointJournal article.