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rightwing
02-13-2012, 08:19 AM
What a change from Gadowsky days. The team seems to have no plan or system that they run. The coach always looks like he is about to explode on the bench. The players arent playing with enthusiasm and look afraid to make a mistake.
Very disappointing.

JF_Gophers
02-13-2012, 08:25 AM
Maybe the team just isn't good.

rightwing
02-13-2012, 08:30 AM
perhaps- but largely the same players as last year, but they look lost

TimU
02-13-2012, 09:01 AM
Maybe the team just isn't good.

Or maybe they're dealing with a lot of injuries. Maybe they're dressing 7 defensemen because they don't have enough healthy bodies to fill 4 forward lines. Maybe they're showing a lot of character by competing through some very tough circumstances, with the full support, admiration, and gratitude of their new coach. Maybe this type of criticism is ridiculous after less than one season.

FlagDUDE08
02-13-2012, 09:04 AM
Fire Bob Prier! :p:D

rjohntute
02-13-2012, 10:31 AM
Or maybe it could be the conditioning of the team? Princeton has been hit and dealing with injuries for the past 3 years. It was better last year, but still...

tiger
02-14-2012, 07:48 AM
Whatever the reason its not working. Gadowsky's team looked alot different from this one.

TimU
02-14-2012, 10:52 AM
Whatever the reason its not working. Gadowsky's team looked alot different from this one.

Are you serious? 8 members of Gadowsky's last team graduated, including 3 of the top 4 scorers from last year. Of course it looks a lot different. What in the world did you expect?

This year's Princeton team has 17 freshmen and sophomores (just 9 juniors and seniors), has lost a ton of player-games to injury, and is adjusting to a coaching change. And you guys are going to judge the new program before you even get through the first season?

hockeyplayer1015
02-14-2012, 02:39 PM
Are you serious? 8 members of Gadowsky's last team graduated, including 3 of the top 4 scorers from last year. Of course it looks a lot different. What in the world did you expect?

This year's Princeton team has 17 freshmen and sophomores (just 9 juniors and seniors), has lost a ton of player-games to injury, and is adjusting to a coaching change. And you guys are going to judge the new program before you even get through the first season?

TimU speaks the truth.

Atleast give Coach Prier 3 years to get his own recruits in, get his systems in place, etc.

rjohntute
02-14-2012, 03:46 PM
TimU speaks the truth.

Atleast give Coach Prier 3 years to get his own recruits in, get his systems in place, etc.

I won't disagree with the fact that he needs to be given a chance and that it's still early, but why give him so long and to get new recruits. It's not like he took over a program in shambles and was brought in to save it. Au contraire, the head coach left for greener pastures in the Big 10. He deserves a chance to the youth and injuries, but the players he has now were brought in by a pretty good coaching staff and should be able to compete and be among the league's elite.

rightwing
02-14-2012, 06:48 PM
Prier took over an excellent nucleus and hasnt done much with it. Doesnt seem like players are buying into his system -or are unable to run it

TimU
02-14-2012, 07:19 PM
Prier took over an excellent nucleus and hasnt done much with it. Doesnt seem like players are buying into his system -or are unable to run it

Again: 3 of 4 top scorers graduated. 17 freshmen and sophomores. Inordinate number of injuries. New coach. Not even one season in the books yet. Questioning the system or the head coach's connection with the players at this point is flat-out ridiculous.

By the way, Guy Gadowsky's record in his first three seasons:

8-20-3
10-18-3
15-16-3

Calm down. Be patient.

freego
02-14-2012, 07:42 PM
A. The hiring of Bob Prier is not an 'experiment'
B. Any team that has a person of Prier's caliber running it's program is very fortunate indeed.

hockeyplayer1015
02-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Yes, Prier took over a program that was on the rise. Yes, there is a pretty good group of players there. However, something that needs to be considered in this as well are a couple things. (Disclaimer, I have not seen Princeton this year) It is possible that the players aren't truly suited to the new systems/style that Prier has brought in. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just something that should be recognized. Also, as Tim has mentioned, a fair amount of man-games being lost to injury doesn't help matters any. The other thing here is that the parity of the league this year trumps what we have become accustom to, outside of Cornell and Union, the rest of the league is extremely bunched up.

Look at Colgate from last year. Just struggled to win games, often losing by a goal or 2 with an ENG against. This year's Colgate team isn't much different with their roster, but they have been winning those close games they lost last year. That's the excitement we have with this league, you just can never take a night off or coast by on a weekend.

Something else to think about. I think we can all agree that Gadowsky is a very good coach. Do you expect Penn St to go and be a front runner for the Big10 next year? I doubt anybody does, it will take a while. The situation is different there with essentially starting from scratch, but coaches still need to be given a few years to get their recruits in place and the players to really get the systems and style of play.

You guys will be alright, just be patient. Bobby Prier is a great guy who learned from one of the best in the nation.

rightwing
02-15-2012, 08:29 AM
Im sure he is a great guy in a social setting, but try to get one of his current players to say something positive about him. They seem very discouraged

kdiff77
02-15-2012, 01:23 PM
I was under the impression that this was a bona fide rebuilding year for Princeton, and that ANY success would be somewhat surprising. Not to say they've overachieved, but they don't seem to be such a huge disappointment to me. They looked pretty decent when I saw them play Brown in Providence in January. Although outplayed, they were able to turn great goaltending and opportunistic offense into a victory.

rightwing
02-15-2012, 10:19 PM
He is way over his head at a top academic school. Gadowsky knew how to motivate the kids at such a place but Prier seems to alienate them. I don't believe that he is a good fit there Maybe another university would be a different story.

bcuafmsu2
02-15-2012, 11:59 PM
Im sure he is a great guy in a social setting, but try to get one of his current players to say something positive about him. They seem very discouraged

“It’s been great,” (Michael) Sdao said of the transition. “There’s been some changes in our system, and it took a while to get used to. [Now that we're used to it] I think we’ll have a great last 15 to 20 games.”

http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/24/sdaos-good-feeling-about-princeton-gets-better

TimU
02-16-2012, 06:38 AM
He is way over his head at a top academic school. Gadowsky knew how to motivate the kids at such a place but Prier seems to alienate them. I don't believe that he is a good fit there Maybe another university would be a different story.

Right, that makes perfect sense. They should have gone back to what worked with Gadowsky, and found someone who understands the subtleties of coaching at a top-flight academic institution like Alaska-Fairbanks. Prier's spent the past ten years working with those ECAC dummies at St. Lawrence and . . . what was that other school? Oh yeah, PRINCETON.

You're making less and less sense the more you say.

rightwing
02-16-2012, 08:39 AM
You must agree that it is a big jump from assistant to head coach and is always a gamble. He may be an example of a good career assistant who is unable to transition to the top job.