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norm1909
02-12-2012, 05:44 PM
NCAA Ice Hockey Rules Committee - 2011 ANNUAL MEETING REPORT (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/icehockey/2011/2011_meeting_report.pdf)

Clarify that the number shall contrast the overall jersey color. This rule is recommended immediately, but will be mandated starting with the 2012-13 season. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/icehockey/2010/2010ihrulesfinalchanges.pdf)

The Leadership Council agreed to recommend that the NCAA Division I Board of Directors adopt noncontroversial legislation that would permit current Division II and Division III institutions that had one sport (other than football and basketball) classified in Division I for the 2010-11 academic year to petition to have one sport of the opposite gender reclassified to Division I. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DI_MC_BOD/DI_LC/2012/January/Admin%20Cabinet%20agenda.pdf)

Misconduct. The committee accepted information that the NCAA Division III Men’s Ice Hockey Committee issued a public reprimand and fine of $1,000 to Adrian College for inappropriate and unsportsmanlike conduct by men’s ice hockey student-athletes in conjunction with the 2011 championship. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DIII%20Governance/Management%20Council/20111017/sup_06_MC_Championship%20Report_9-11_.pdf)

joecct
02-12-2012, 07:06 PM
What did Adrian do? I did not think they did anything bad on the ice, other than taking too many penalties against SNC. Their fans were great. Must have been the press conference after the final (which I missed).

NUProf
02-12-2012, 07:38 PM
In your link, I found the following discussion item:



Selection Criteria. The committee discussed the selection principle that teams are selected for Division III championships on a national basis using regional selection criteria and noted that sport committees often find it challenging to compare teams from different regions if the teams have no head-to-head contests or common opponents; there is little data in the regional (primary) criteria to compare. The committee discussed including all contests against Division III opponents in the primary criteria and including all contests against non-Division III opponents in the secondary criteria (i.e., “a game is a game” against Division III opponents). To maintain the Division III philosophy of emphasizing in-region competition, an institution must meet a minimum threshold (e.g., 70 percent) of in-region contests to be eligible for selection. Initial feedback from the sport committee chairs was positive, especially with the understanding that the potential change to the selection criteria, the implementation of the regional alignment models and any changes to the ranking process (e.g., sport committees to rank 15 percent of the teams in each region, with an established minimum and/or maximum number of teams ranked) would occur at the same time (i.e., 2013-14 academic year). It is anticipated that regardless of changes to the selection criteria or ranking process, many institutions will continue to schedule the majority of their contests based on geographic proximity to minimize travel expenses.

And this...coming right after Adrian's fine


Championship Date Formula Change. The committee accepted as information that the men’s ice hockey committee anticipates requesting a championship date formula change to facilitate a joint championship format with Division I men’s ice hockey in 2015.

norm1909
02-12-2012, 07:51 PM
... future combined championship in men's ice hockey (Divisions I and III) (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DI_Champs_Sports_Mgmt_Cab/2011/June%202011/June_2011_Complete.pdf)

Hammer
02-12-2012, 07:54 PM
What did Adrian do? I did not think they did anything bad on the ice, other than taking too many penalties against SNC. Their fans were great. Must have been the press conference after the final (which I missed).

I saw the press conference. Nothing there. I'm guessing there was some kind of protocol violation. *shrug*

snc1
02-12-2012, 07:58 PM
... future combined championship in men's ice hockey (Divisions I and III) (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DI_Champs_Sports_Mgmt_Cab/2011/June%202011/June_2011_Complete.pdf)

Only 177 pages. Not bad

norm1909
02-12-2012, 08:00 PM
Only 177 pages. Not bad

And that excerpt is from page 176 :eek:

GB Puck Fan
02-12-2012, 10:03 PM
With three eastern sites - Tampa, Pittsburgh and Philly - 2015 FF will likely be out west, right?

D1 semis Thursday, D3 Friday, then two title games Saturday?

Not that I like the idea...

97osu
02-12-2012, 10:28 PM
... future combined championship in men's ice hockey (Divisions I and III) (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DI_Champs_Sports_Mgmt_Cab/2011/June%202011/June_2011_Complete.pdf)

I can't imagine this actually being approved? The added expense of sending Div III schools to the likes of Florida, and "West" as in Colorado or California sort of contradicts the NCAA Div III philosophy of keeping costs at their lowest during the selection process:confused:

Hammer
02-12-2012, 10:30 PM
Hell, in the late 90's the Frozen Four was in Anaheim. Think about that one for a minute, if we get a year with a true 8-3 split and 3 eastern teams in the semis.

PSUChamps2001
02-12-2012, 10:38 PM
Not only the distance, but TIME. You're now asking teams to either start later (okay okay NESCACians) or finish up their conference playoffs and wait around for almost a month before the NCAA's....are they going to let D3 go to a 30+ game schedule to lengthen that time? doubtful....thanks but no thanks. Not only that, we finally just got our own neutral sites where tickets are much easier to get a hold of, how fun is that going to be to get on the list for seats years in advance....sign me up...not

Matt Rennell
02-12-2012, 10:42 PM
It's all RIT's fault.

norm1909
02-13-2012, 05:39 AM
I can't imagine this actually being approved? The added expense of sending Div III schools to the likes of Florida, and "West" as in Colorado or California sort of contradicts the NCAA Div III philosophy of keeping costs at their lowest during the selection process:confused:

It should be noted that this in a section titled "Professional Sports Organizations Sponsorship of Intercollegiate Competition Events" - some of their examples excerpted below. The concept would shift substantial financial burden, heavily restricted, to the supporting "Professional Organization", the theory being that combining the two divisions increases the professional organizations "publicity" while providing certain cost saving "synergies" to everyone involved, providing benefits to all - including "top of mind awareness" to all participants (schools & sponsors), making recruiting of both players and patrons easier. Yes, their are significant logistics (many of which DI already deals with), but don't think the recent outdoor stadium games are a coincidence - its all about $$$ (in the name of the "student-athlete experience).


It should be permissible for a professional sports organization to serve as a financial sponsor of related promotional, marketing and ancillary events, including as an
identified sponsor of an ancillary event.

Example No. 1
The Omaha Storm Chasers may be involved in promoting the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship through in-game announcements and
by providing advertising space in game programs at no charge to the NCAA, host institution or local organizing committee.

Example No. 2
The Baltimore Ravens may be involved in promoting the NCAA Divisions I/II/III Men's Lacrosse Championship at Ravens games through distribution of information to season ticket holders and by providing advertising during all events (e.g., concerts, games) at no charge to the NCAA, host institution or local organizing committee.

Example No. 3
The Indiana Fever may have a booth at Tourney Town during the NCAA Division I Women's Final Four.

Example No. 4
The Minnesota Wild may financially sponsor and also be identified as a sponsor for the "Friday Night at the Frozen Four" event during the NCAA Division I Men's Frozen Four.

Example No. 5
The National Pro Fastpitch League may promote each division's NCAA championship on its website and during each of its team's games.

3. It should be clarified that "financial sponsor" of an event is specific to the event itself and not any particular institution, conference or the NCAA.

Example No. 1
The Boston Bruins may financially sponsor the Beanpot Hockey Tournament, but not serve as a sponsor (financial or identifiable) of
Boston University, Boston College, Harvard University or Northeastern University.

Example No. 2
The Minnesota Twins may financially sponsor an ice hockey game between the University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) and Macalester Professional Sports Organizations Sponsorship of Intercollegiate Competition Events College, but it may not sponsor (financial or identifiable) either institution.

4. It should be impermissible for a professional sports organization to provide a direct financial donation to an institution, conference or the NCAA.

Example No.1
While the New York Yankees may partner with the Big East Conference and the Big 12 Conference to financially sponsor the New Era Pinstripe
Bowl (or donate use of the stadium) and each conference may receive some financial benefit as a result of the various financial arrangements
made regarding hosting and sponsoring the event (e.g., split concession profits), the New York Yankees could not provide a direct cash donation
to either conference.

Example No. 2
The Indianapolis Pacers may not provide a direct financial donation to local Divisions I, II and III institutions.

5. It should remain impermissible for a professional sports organization to affiliate with student-athletes (e.g., logos, marks) in any manner.

Note: Current legislation already prohibits this.

Additional Information to Consider

Each respective divisional championships body is reviewing the same agreed-on outcomes for consideration for the 2011-12 legislative cycle. Each division has been operating under a waiver for NCAA championships that have occurred since the issue was originally raised and a
legislative change is necessary for future NCAA championships

joecct
02-13-2012, 06:33 AM
Week 1: Round 1 on campus
Week 2: Quarterfinals on campus
Week 3: Semifinals on campus
Week 4: off? Final Four in hoops
Week 5: Finals at neutral site

Thursday: D1 semis
Friday: D3 finals
Saturday: D1 finals

In theory you could do a best of 3 each week but that would violate D3 principles.

One more thing - has anyone looked at the price of a Frozen Four ticket?? It's approaching $200.

snc1
02-13-2012, 08:29 AM
NCAA Ice Hockey Rules Committee - 2011 ANNUAL MEETING REPORT (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/icehockey/2011/2011_meeting_report.pdf)

Clarify that the number shall contrast the overall jersey color. This rule is recommended immediately, but will be mandated starting with the 2012-13 season. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/icehockey/2010/2010ihrulesfinalchanges.pdf)


The Leadership Council agreed to recommend that the NCAA Division I Board of Directors adopt noncontroversial legislation that would permit current Division II and Division III institutions that had one sport (other than football and basketball) classified in Division I for the 2010-11 academic year to petition to have one sport of the opposite gender reclassified to Division I. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DI_MC_BOD/DI_LC/2012/January/Admin%20Cabinet%20agenda.pdf)

Misconduct. The committee accepted information that the NCAA Division III Men’s Ice Hockey Committee issued a public reprimand and fine of $1,000 to Adrian College for inappropriate and unsportsmanlike conduct by men’s ice hockey student-athletes in conjunction with the 2011 championship. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DIII%20Governance/Management%20Council/20111017/sup_06_MC_Championship%20Report_9-11_.pdf)



When the NCAA says the "2011 championship" they probably mean the frozen four as a whole but can't refer to it as that because that phrase is reserved for D1.
For this who were at the "championships" they may remember the altercation between Adrian and coach Gosek after the first semifinal game. Possible that is were the misconduct came from.
Non the less a grand is no big deal and I'm sure the Arrington trust can afford that. Not really worth the effort to fine them. Maybe just wanted a reprimand on record. ??

jerrynu26
02-13-2012, 08:41 AM
When the NCAA says the "2011 championship" they probably mean the frozen four as a whole but can't refer to it as that because that phrase is reserved for D1.
For this who were at the "championships" they may remember the altercation between Adrian and coach Gosek after the first semifinal game. Possible that is were the misconduct came from.
Non the less a grand is no big deal and I'm sure the Arrington trust can afford that. Not really worth the effort to fine them. Maybe just wanted a reprimand on record. ??
Making it a public reprimand probably serves to lay the foundation for much stiffer penalties in the event that sort of thing happens again.

norm1909
02-13-2012, 09:12 AM
Making it a public reprimand probably serves to lay the foundation for much stiffer penalties in the event that sort of thing happens again.

It also was a very limited "public reprimand", in that other than that release, this is the only other place I have found it. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DIII%20Governance/Management%20Council/20111017/00_agenda.pdf) (On page 146 of 475!).

The above document also notes:


Officials. Approved that a two-referee, two-linesman officiating system be used for all rounds of the 2012 championship, and that fees will be as follows: referees - $200 each; and linesmen - $150 each. The minimal increase in officials’ fees and paying a second linesman instead of a back up official will be covered through a reallocation of funds in the men’s ice hockey games budget.

and


Division III Men’s Ice Hockey – Term Extension Request. The men’s ice hockey committee requested that the term of Bruce Delventhal, director of athletics at Plattsburgh State University of New York, be extended for one year. Mr. Delventhal is the chair of the committee, and the committee indicated that allowing him to serve until September 1, 2012, would greatly help to facilitate the process of combining the Division III championship with the Division I championship. The NCAA Division III Nominating Committee supported this request.

Perhaps Brucy is thinking of Lake Placid hosting more?

jerrynu26
02-13-2012, 10:16 AM
It also was a very limited "public reprimand", in that other than that release, this is the only other place I have found it. (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/DIII%20Governance/Management%20Council/20111017/00_agenda.pdf) (On page 146 of 475!).



Interesting nonetheless, particularly in reference to the semi-finals. I recall the discussion after the semi-final (http://board.uscho.com/archive/index.php/t-95241-p-12.html?) and some of the comments trashing Gosek. It appears those were misdirected since Gosek recieved no censure.

bakdraft21
02-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Week 1: Round 1 on campus
Week 2: Quarterfinals on campus
Week 3: Semifinals on campus
Week 4: off? Final Four in hoops
Week 5: Finals at neutral site

Thursday: D1 semis
Friday: D3 finals
Saturday: D1 finals

In theory you could do a best of 3 each week but that would violate D3 principles.

One more thing - has anyone looked at the price of a Frozen Four ticket?? It's approaching $200. the 200 is for 3 games, so not that bad..