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Originally posted by jdmaxim23 View PostAs for why UAH would be good? because it makes it 10, we save a program, and what player doesn't want to go to Alabama in January?
I'd rather be a part of a league that is willing to work for the good of college hockey as a whole any day over the NCHC. It's one series, costs be ****ed. We're paying 250k a year for a coach. We can afford a flight to Huntsville.MTU Hockey fan since I was carried to a game in 1986 - for those counting... that's a lot of depressing hockey. Still love it.
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Originally posted by Squarebanks View PostThis year notwithstanding, how often has UAF been at "the bottom" of the CCHA in the last five years?North Dakota
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Originally posted by jdmaxim23 View PostI can't really speak for Mankato's possible non-conference schedule, but from a BSU fan perspective, I like having a possible 12-16 non-conference games to work with. There are certainly going to be better years than others, but BSU always had UND and UMD come to their arena before they were in the WCHA, and I believe that will continue because of the proximity. I also think that SCSU will be more inclined to come here finding close non-con games for their fans to travel to. Throw in a trip from the Gophers every 2-3 years up there and its not so bad. Perhaps then an eastern team could make a trip here for some return visit to get BSU some exposure out East?
This is why I like having the Alaska teams, we have those extra 4 games to work with if we fly there twice a year.
I do think that we will see a group of teams rise to the top year in and year out, who that is, remains to be seen. My bet would be NMU, BSU, MSU-M and TECH, but all of these teams are more competitive than most people give them credit for.
As for why UAH would be good? because it makes it 10, we save a program, and what player doesn't want to go to Alabama in January?"The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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Originally posted by SCSU Euro View PostInitial reports are you'd get the Gophers at Sanford one out of every four years, whichever year you're not in the MN tourney at the X. The other three years you'll be at Mariucci twice and the other you'll be scheduled to play them in the first game of that tourney.Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
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Originally posted by Squarebanks View PostThis year notwithstanding, how often has UAF been at "the bottom" of the CCHA in the last five years?U-A-A!!!Go!Go!GreenandGold!
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Originally posted by MavsFan View PostHow is it whining to recognize that it will likely be difficult to get those named teams to come to Mankato often, if at all? I'll be very surprised in UND is ever in Mankato again. The Gophers plan is to play the other Minnesota schools in a tournament in the Cities. If they do come to Mankato, it will be once in every three or four years. The other two mentioned, UMD and SCSU, I don't know how they're going to look at scheduling us. You brought up Omaha; yeah, we always played them every year on a balanced basis, even before the "Spirit of the Maverick Trophy" competition. However, that started when Omaha was not viewed as anything special. Now that Blais has joined the "like-minded programs" will he want to continue a one-for-one non-conference series with Mankato? Time will tell, I guess.
I'm just being realistic; a lot of non-conference games (without going on the road more than being at home) is going to be difficult for Mankato
I don't think UNO is going to give up on this one and it wouldn't make a lot of sense to do so. There is a lot of history here, particularly for a program like UNO that doesn't have a lot of it in the first place. To me, this is a scheduling no-brainer for UNO and Mankato. And, just like it is easy for UNO to get there, it's also easy for UNO fans and (ahem) tickets are not hard to get in Mankato, either (or expensive). If UNO drops this series, I, for one, will not be pleased.
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Originally posted by Jimjamesak View PostI will say that UAA is 7-4-1 against UAF in the last five years.“We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostIt depends on the definition of "the bottom". I'm not sure what TheEagle meant, but typically in WCHA land we count "the bottom" as the bottom half.University of North Dakota
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That's about what I figured the Minnesota Tourney would be. Not a 1-for-1 agreement, but sounds like it's the best deal of the departing schools.
So they lose 4 non-conference games, and continue "playing" the local schools. The WCHA schools only burn through two non-conference games allowing another 4 for sure (before the Alaska "games" kick in).
Michigan and Michigan State already have the GLI, along with MTU. That's pretty much going to continue on forever.
While I'd like to see NMU get a similar tourney invited, I would like to see long term non-conference scheduling agreements with UNO and tOSU. Those two schools have a long history with NMU, and would make for great teams to continue playing against.
But... a West Michigan Showcase with NMU, FSU, LSSU, WMU would be a good idea too... Not sure how to break it up, but with three WCHA schools, have (WCHA) vs WMU, (WCHA) vs invited team, and WMU plays the uninvited WCHA team in regular Non-Conf games.
Maybe make Notre Dame the invited team? Think of the potential PWR boost (or anchor) this could provide!Last edited by aparch; 03-23-2012, 01:02 PM.“Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”
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Originally posted by Red Cows View PostUNO has played Mankato every year of the UNO's existence. They are the only team that UNO has played every year. They are, by far, the closest D-1 program to UNO and it's an easy (and cheap) bus trip up there. So easy, in fact, that before we were conference mates this series was home and home on the same weekend on 3 occasions, even, ('04, '05' & '09). Even if you discount games that have now been played between the two schools as conference mates, other than UNO's old CCHA conference foes, UNO has played Mankato more times than any other team including any other team in the current WCHA.
I don't think UNO is going to give up on this one and it wouldn't make a lot of sense to do so. There is a lot of history here, particularly for a program like UNO that doesn't have a lot of it in the first place. To me, this is a scheduling no-brainer for UNO and Mankato. And, just like it is easy for UNO to get there, it's also easy for UNO fans and (ahem) tickets are not hard to get in Mankato, either (or expensive). If UNO drops this series, I, for one, will not be pleased.tUMD is Jan Brady per Brenthoven. Whew.... thanks for clearing THAT up.
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Originally posted by TheEagle View PostThat is what I meant, and Alaska has been in the bottom half six of the last nine years. However, the bottom half comment wasn't really about Alaska, it was about the teams at the bottom half of the standings in the two conferences. I could be wrong, but it seems like the WCHA generally has had more depth than the CCHA.
Here's the standings from the last six years of the New WCHA members using the WCHA points method (no shootout, no 3 point games)
Code:2005-06 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 4 Northern Michigan 14-12-2 30 1 6 Lake Superior 11-12-5 27 2 6 Ferris State 10-11-7 27 2 7 Minnesota State 12-13-3 27 2 6 Alaska 11-13-4 26 5 12 Bowling Green 8-18-2 18 6 8 Michigan Tech. 6-16-6 18 6 10 Alaska-Anchorage 4-21-3 11 8 2006-07 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 6 Michigan Tech. 11-12-5 27 1 8 Lake Superior 11-14-3 25 2 8 Minnesota State 10-13-5 25 3 9 Ferris State 10-16-2 22 4 10 Northern Michigan 10-17-1 21 5 11 Alaska 7-16-5 19 6 10 Alaska-Anchorage 8-19-1 17 7 12 Bowling Green 5-22-1 11 8 2007-08 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 5 Ferris State 12-12-4 28 1 4 Minnesota State 12-12-4 28 1 6 Northern Michigan 12-13-3 27 3 7 Bowling Green 13-15-0 26 4 9 Michigan Tech. 9-15-4 22 5 9 Alaska 8-16-4 20 6 9 Lake Superior 7-15-6 20 6 10 Alaska-Anchorage 3-19-6 12 8 2008-09 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 4 Alaska 13-10-5 31 1 6 Northern Michigan 11-12-5 27 2 8 Minnesota State 11-13-4 26 3 9 Ferris State 9-14-5 23 4 9 Alaska-Anchorage 9-14-5 23 4 10 Lake Superior 7-15-6 20 6 12 Bowling Green 8-19-1 17 7 10 Michigan Tech. 2-19-7 11 8 2009-10 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 3 Ferris State 13-9-6 32 1 4 Northern Michigan 13-9-6 32 1 5 Alaska 11-9-8 30 3 10 Lake Superior 10-15-3 23 4 8 Alaska-Anchorage 9-17-2 20 5 8 Minnesota State 9-17-2 20 5 11 Bowling Green 4-18-6 14 7 10 Michigan Tech. 4-24-0 8 8 2010-11 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 5 Ferris State 12-12-4 28 1 6 Northern Michigan 12-13-3 27 2 8 Alaska-Anchorage 12-14-2 26 3 7 Alaska 10-13-5 25 4 8 Lake Superior 8-12-8 24 5 10 Bemidji State 8-15-5 21 6 11 Minnesota State 8-16-4 20 7 11 Bowling Green 3-21-4 10 8 12 Michigan Tech. 2-24-2 6 9 2011-12 Team W-L-T Pts NewWCHA 1 Ferris State 16-7-5 37 1 6 Northern Michigan 11-11-6 28 2 7 Lake Superior 11-13-4 26 3 8 Michigan Tech. 11-13-4 26 3 9 Bemidji State 11-14-3 25 5 10 Alaska 8-16-4 20 6 11 Minnesota State 8-18-2 18 7 11 Bowling Green 5-19-4 14 8 12 Alaska-Anchorage 5-22-1 11 9
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Originally posted by SCSU Euro View PostI'd go as far to say that if the WCHA ends up going with a 24 or less game conference schedule and MSU-M and UNO struggle at all filling ooc dates (or not getting opponents they want) that this could eventually become a 4-game Stampede.“Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”
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Originally posted by bigblue_dl View PostI just hope that the new WCHA teams continue to stand strong and either demand equal return trips or a massive payout to travel to the Colorado schools.
Kinda like NoDak is already doing to NMU for next season.“Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”
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