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osualum86
12-13-2011, 10:35 AM
Ohio State heads into the break with an overall record of 9-7-2, 6-7-1-1 in the WCHA, good for a 4th place tie with Minnesota-Duluth. It's been great watching this team play and seeing what the new coaching staff has been able to accomplish. I'm not very familiar with Princeton, so if some Princeton fans would like to fill us in on your team and the season you have been having, that would be great! For those of you making the trek to Columbus, have a safe trip! :) If you would like a prediction, well, I am going to be a "homer" on this one and predict a sweep.

pgb-ohio
12-13-2011, 04:40 PM
On paper, Princeton looks like a very respectable .500 club. Against top competition, their results have been mixed. They gave Cornell a great game, losing only by 1 plus an empty-netter. On the other hand, BC beat them pretty handily; the final there was 6-1.

There is one common opponent: Niagara. The Purple Eagles prevailed 3-1. Since we swept Niagara, there certainly are grounds for optimism. And yet results aren't always transitive, to state the obvious. Also, the NU contest was only the second game of the season for the Tigers, so perhaps we shouldn't put too much stock in that result.

Princeton fans, what's your take?

ARM
12-13-2011, 04:47 PM
Since we swept Niagara ...OSU took 3 of 4 points from Niagara, so not quite a sweep.

osualum86
12-13-2011, 05:43 PM
Actually, it wasn't a WCHA series so we didn't really get any points. We got a shootout win Friday night and won 5-2 in regulation on Saturday, so as far as we are concerned, it was a sweep because we won both games. Now if this was a WCHA series, yes, we would have gotten 5 out of the possible 6 points, and not quite a sweep.

ARM
12-13-2011, 06:03 PM
Actually, it wasn't a WCHA series so we didn't really get any points. We got a shootout win Friday night and won 5-2 in regulation on Saturday, so as far as we are concerned, it was a sweep because we won both games. Now if this was a WCHA series, yes, we would have gotten 5 out of the possible 6 points, and not quite a sweep.Nationally, even though there aren't standings per se, there were four points available in that series, and you got three of them. That's how it will work out in the winning percentages used by the computers that rank teams. Your coach lamented the loss of a point on Friday night, and a moral victory of a shootout doesn't change that.

PrincetonFan
12-13-2011, 07:28 PM
Princeton has good goaltending, occasionally good defense (they've been hit by injuries), but the biggest problem is that they can't score. Except for a couple of games against Yale, for them to get 2 goals is a major accomplishment. This is been their history for years.

pgb-ohio
12-13-2011, 07:36 PM
For NCAA purposes, the Niagara series was a win and a tie. ARM is absolutely correct to mention that. I will say that it feels wrong to talk about "points" in nonconference play, and personally I try to avoid it. But this really isn't a big deal. Everyone knows what's meant.

Apologies for my sloppy posting, but can we stipulate that Ohio State "won the series" against Niagara? From there we can return to the issues I actually hoped we'd address:

1. How does OSU match up against Princeton; and
2. Do the results each school got against Niagara give us any insight on the upcoming series?

pgb-ohio
12-13-2011, 07:50 PM
Princeton has good goaltending, occasionally good defense (they've been hit by injuries), but the biggest problem is that they can't score. Except for a couple of games against Yale, for them to get 2 goals is a major accomplishment. This is been their history for years.Greatly appreciate the reply. My first reaction is that the Buckeyes better make sure they shake off any "holiday rust" before the opening face-off. If the Buckeyes come out firing on all cylanders, it sounds like they should be able to outgun the Tigers. Conversely, a slow start could easily result in a tight, low scoring goalie duel.

Other thoughts?

osualum86
12-13-2011, 09:20 PM
Thanks everyone for setting me straight regarding what happened against Niagara. And thanks to PrincetonFan for adding some insights regarding Princeton's womens hockey team. Pgb, I think you are spot on regarding this series. We need to start fast and see if we can get some goals early, whereas slow starts could give Princeton an advantage if they continue to get solid goaltending and defense.

pgb-ohio
12-14-2011, 09:53 PM
It was my error that needed to be corrected. You were just sticking up for me, which was appreciated.:cool:

Not to belabor the side issue, but 12/2 Niagara game sure felt like a win! I guess at OSU we're pretty used to shootouts "counting." Both the OSU Women & the OSU Men play in leagues that use the shootout as a tiebreaker. (Women's WCHA & Men's CCHA) Unless other leagues added the shootout this year, we're the only D-1 Hockey community in that situation. Naturally the local NHL team also plays in a league that uses shootouts.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not really on board with idea of using skills contests to break hockey ties. But for better or worse, they now seem "normal." Maybe that's why I had the brain cramp and remembered the Niagara series as a sweep. FWIW.

ARM
12-14-2011, 09:59 PM
Sorry -- I'm not trying to nitpick the issue and make a big deal of it. Take it as a compliment that this season Ohio State's program is relevant enough that it really matters whether they win or tie a non conference game, or the game against Bemidji State for that matter.

pgb-ohio
12-15-2011, 03:16 AM
Fully understood, and taken in the spirit intended.

osualum86
12-15-2011, 09:10 AM
Sorry -- I'm not trying to nitpick the issue and make a big deal of it. Take it as a compliment that this season Ohio State's program is relevant enough that it really matters whether they win or tie a non conference game, or the game against Bemidji State for that matter.

Thanks, ARM! We are definitely having a nice season so far. I hope we can build on the things we accomplished in the first half and continue to improve. Pgb, always a pleasure discussing Buckeye Womens Hockey with you on here!

osualum86
12-15-2011, 01:19 PM
Nice article today in USCHO about Natalie Spooner and our program.

http://www.uscho.com/2011/12/15/spooners-impact-at-ohio-state-surpasses-statistics/

osualum86
12-21-2011, 10:09 PM
Hey everyone, not to hijack my own thread, but if we don't hear from each other in the next few days, everyone have a wonderful Christmas! Cannot wait until New Year's when the college hockey season resumes! Talk to you all then!

osualum86
12-29-2011, 10:03 PM
I trust everyone had a very Merry Christmas! Pgb, looking forward to your unofficial three stars of the game tomorrow. I will not be able to make tomorrow's afternoon tilt. It's that doggone work thing (haha)! The other two guys in my department beat me to it regarding getting tomorrow afternoon off, so I will be at the office holding down the fort. I'll attempt to sneak onto gametracker or live stats or however I can follow the game.

osualum86
12-30-2011, 01:16 PM
I heard some good news today. Melissa Feste, who was injured back in October, will be playing this weekend! It will be nice to see her back on the ice.

osualum86
12-30-2011, 05:31 PM
Ohio State defeated Princeton earlier today in a shootout by a final score of 3-2. Ally Tarr and Paige Semenza scored Ohio State's two regulation goals. The shootout goals were scored by Natalie Spooner and Ally Tarr. Chelsea Knapp was in net for the Buckeyes and got the win.

PrincetonFan
12-30-2011, 09:19 PM
You're right, OSU won a shootout, but the official score is a 2-2 tie, if you check out the box score. Makes me wonder why they even held a shootout. The story here: http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2011-12/Game_Stories/20113012_Princeton_OSU indicates the shootout didn't count. What gives?

osualum86
12-30-2011, 09:23 PM
PrincetonFan - Our league, the WCHA, utilizes the shootout to decide games. Our ice, our rules, I suppose. It will go down as a tie for your team and it will probably count as a tie for us nationally, but in our record books it will go down as a shootout win. If the ECAC chooses not to recognize the shootout results, so be it. Our league does recognize shootout wins. I am actually completely ambivalent about shootouts. Yes, they are an exciting way to decide games, but if they went away, it wouldn't bother me too much.