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Tipsy McStagger
11-17-2011, 01:44 PM
Patterson has played very well this year and has shown he can make the key saves when needed, you're barking up the wrong tree IMO.
Patterson has been great last year and this year. I was just disputing the fact that he has played in big games before.

johnnypohlfan
11-17-2011, 01:49 PM
I've seen Patterson almost all of the games he's played for the Gophers before this season, and a couple so far this year, and I think he's a good goalie. I don't think he's great. And I think that SCSU can hang up three on almost anybody in a period. They can also go into a shell and not come out for a weekend. Friday night against UNH, a goalie we were told was supposed to be really good came into the NHC and got more lit up than Birkholz in a parking lot, so I'm just saying that the potential for both teams to play a low scoring affaird is there, but so is the potential for the wheels to come off on either side or both.

1. Not quite sure how you have that opinion based on watching more than one game this year. Was one of them the Vermont loss? I don't think he played well in that game, even if most other Gopher fans think he did. Pretty much every other game he's been fantastic. I'm just curious how you base your opinion.

2. So no matter the outcome this weekend, you get to say "I was right". Nice job. ;)

state of hockey
11-17-2011, 01:56 PM
I'm just curious how you base your opinion.

His jersey has an "M" on the front. That's how.

Is it possible that he can gave a bad game and get lit up? Sure. But to say he hasn't been great this year is to say that you are blind.

ScoobyDoo
11-17-2011, 01:58 PM
No one on the Minnesota hockey team can be considered great, because no one on the Minnesota hockey team has played Anybody yet.

Understand?

SCSU Euro
11-17-2011, 02:03 PM
I said that I haven't seen many games this year. But last year he looked good but not a game changer. Before that I got to see him fill in for Kangas now and then.

If he's been fantastic this year then congrats. I just have never watched him play and been scared for my squad to face him.

gopher wes
11-17-2011, 02:12 PM
Patterson has played out of his mind this year and has made a so so minnesota defense look a lot better than they are......
This is kinda true but that's not to say that the Gophers haven't cleaned up the defensive woes that we have seen the last 3-4 years. There is still room for improvement for the Gophers' D corp but they are VASTLY improved.

Tipsy McStagger
11-17-2011, 02:15 PM
No one on the Minnesota hockey team can be considered great, because no one on the Minnesota hockey team has played Anybody yet.

Understand?
You should look into a career as a parrot.

JDUBBS1280
11-17-2011, 02:15 PM
This is kinda true but that's not to say that the Gophers haven't cleaned up the defensive woes that we have seen the last 3-4 years. There is still room for improvement for the Gophers' D corp but they are VASTLY improved.

Agreed. Outside of the UMD series, the Gophers are averaging just 19 SOG allowed per game.

ScoobyDoo
11-17-2011, 02:20 PM
You should look into a career as a parrot.

You should look into a job stating the obvious, you're awesome at it.

Tipsy McStagger
11-17-2011, 02:27 PM
You should look into a job stating the obvious, you're awesome at it.

Say that "gophers haven't played anybody" line again. It has gotten better with age. I will give you a cracker.

Bronzebacks
11-17-2011, 02:28 PM
Agreed. Outside of the UMD series, the Gophers are averaging just 19 SOG allowed per game.

I would say every team in the country would like to average 19 SOG allowed. Patterson has been great this year. His Vermont loss was more on his supporting cast that on him. The left him out to dry and mitigated nearly every PP opportunity with retaliatory penalties.

The Gophers to this point have no glaring weakness. It will take the Huskies best game(s) so far this season take points in this series. That being said, they are not invincible. Motzko's record is around .500. Barring the '08-'09 season where his team was 0-6 against UM, he has a solid record against his former employer.

JDUBBS1280
11-17-2011, 02:32 PM
I would say every team in the country would like to average 19 SOG allowed. Patterson has been great this year. His Vermont loss was more on his supporting cast that on him. The left him out to dry and mitigated nearly every PP opportunity with retaliatory penalties.

The Gophers to this point have no glaring weakness. It will take the Huskies best game(s) so far this season take points in this series. That being said, they are not invincible. Motzko's record is around .500. Baring the '08-'09 season where his team was 0-6 against UM, he has a solid record against his former employer.

No question they are not invincible. They are very inexperienced defensively, and although they have improved in this capacity as the year has progressed, they still have lapses.

Both of these teams like to play a very fast-paced, offensive game, and I think that will translate into at least one high scoring game.

Hammy
11-17-2011, 02:38 PM
I think we'll take our "non-game changer" :rolleyes: with his 1.66 GAA and 93.5% save percentage and be OK.

JDUBBS1280
11-17-2011, 02:41 PM
I think we'll take our "non-game changer" :rolleyes: with his 1.66 GAA and 93.5% save percentage and be OK.


But he hasn't played in the NHC before ;)

skiumah2
11-17-2011, 02:46 PM
But he hasn't played in the NHC before ;)
...or anybody yet. Sorry Tizzy McStumble, does that make me a parrot too? :p

Hammy
11-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Patterson has played out of his mind this year and has made a so so minnesota defense look a lot better than they are......

I saw you make this comment on another board and I have to say it makes me think you don't know much. Unless all you have seen is the one series in Duluth where the shots on goal were laughably skewed by the scorekeeper.

While they aren't flawless defensively (who is?), I am not sure a team that tends to only give up around 20 shots a game and is #4 in overall team defense is "so-so". Not to mention being in the top 10 nationally in penalty killing. At some point, you have to face the fact that they are actually playing well beyond just the goalie.

ScoobyDoo
11-17-2011, 02:55 PM
...or anybody yet. Sorry Tizzy McStumble, does that make me a parrot too? :p

You can have my cracker!!!! I don't want it.

Hammy
11-17-2011, 02:56 PM
Friday night against UNH, a goalie we were told was supposed to be really good came into the NHC and got more lit up than Birkholz in a parking lot, so I'm just saying that the potential for both teams to play a low scoring affaird is there, but so is the potential for the wheels to come off on either side or both.

Yeah because UNH and its 40th ranked PK and defense that has given up twice as many goals per game as MN does is a pretty good comparison.

First Time, Long Time
11-17-2011, 03:14 PM
Yeah because UNH and its 40th ranked PK and defense that has given up twice as many goals per game as MN does is a pretty good comparison.

So what comparison are we allowed to make then?
UNH started off very slow but they are unbeaten since they played us.
From stuff I've seen here, we aren't going to get shots on MN and even if we do, we won't beat Patterson.
Not that it matters though, we can't stop the Gopher offense anyway.
Should SCSU even show up? :rolleyes:

scsutommyboy
11-17-2011, 03:25 PM
I saw you make this comment on another board and I have to say it makes me think you don't know much. Unless all you have seen is the one series in Duluth where the shots on goal were laughably skewed by the scorekeeper.

While they aren't flawless defensively (who is?), I am not sure a team that tends to only give up around 20 shots a game and is #4 in overall team defense is "so-so". Not to mention being in the top 10 nationally in penalty killing. At some point, you have to face the fact that they are actually playing well beyond just the goalie.

Shots on goal are the most over rated stat in hockey. A team can give up 40 shots on goal and still be in control of the game if they keep everything to the outside. I have watched almost all the Gopher games this season, unlike Euro who just likes to get Gopher fans going...... Patterson bails the defense out a lot and has looked great. The Huskies will get plenty of quality shots on Patterson this weekend. Should be a good weekend of hockey.