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dxmnkd316
11-16-2011, 12:05 AM
the dumber you get, the more caustic I become.

There's a bad chemistry joke in there somewhere. I'm just too tired to find it.

The Rube
11-16-2011, 12:12 AM
Ah I get it, someone disagrees with you or thinks that the accomplishments of your team are at this stage irrelevant and not only must they be stupid, but you have to show zero respect to them.
I was a science major and that's all a ***** like you needs to know.

The majority of MN fans are just saying that it's a good sign of what this team is, which is a team that is like good ol' fashioned Gopher glory. Meanwhile, you guys are hanging banners for playing Someone, and proclaiming you are better than advertised.

Bakunin
11-16-2011, 12:18 AM
Ah I get it, someone disagrees with you or thinks that the accomplishments of your team are at this stage irrelevant and not only must they be stupid, but you have to show zero respect to them.
People are welcome to disagree with arguments. Disagreeing with facts on the other hand DOES make them/you stupid and worthy of zero respect (ah, there's that word again).

I was a science major and that's all a ***** like you needs to know.
Given how touchy you are about it, my guess is it didn't lead you into the land of prosperity like my major did. :p

And if you truly are a student of science, you should have the good sense to recognize evidence and adjust your assumptions and hypothesis accordingly. Direct observation indicates MN is playing better this year than they have in any season going back to '06-'07. There are several factors behind this resurgence, and they have been identified for you by those of us who have studied (i.e. watched) the team play. Your continued refusal to accept the evidence reminds me a great deal of the climate change deniers who will continue ignoring every study and cherry pick every bit of data they can to drag their feet and obfuscate. What this tells me is you are a poor scientist.

DX, are you saying one of us is baking soda and the other is vinegar? :p

First Time, Long Time
11-16-2011, 12:18 AM
The majority of MN fans are just saying that it's a good sign of what this team is, which is a team that is like good ol' fashioned Gopher glory. Meanwhile, you guys are hanging banners for playing Someone, and proclaiming you are better than advertised.

One person has said better than advertised and if you are going to say the Husky women stuff is played out, so are the "hanging banners"
shots.
Like I said, optimism is one thing, being a complete ***** about it is something else.
It doesn't need to get personal, but apparently there are some around here who just can't avoid insulting someone in order to "make their point."

dxmnkd316
11-16-2011, 12:19 AM
People are welcome to disagree with arguments. Disagreeing with facts on the other hand DOES make them/you stupid and worthy of zero respect (ah, there's that word again).

Given how touchy you are about it, my guess is it didn't lead you into the land of prosperity like my major did. :p

DX, are you saying one of us is baking soda and the other is vinegar? :p

Not quite. But that'll work. :D

Dude Love
11-16-2011, 12:19 AM
BTW, enjoy that chip on your shoulder. I hope it isn't a life-threatening infection. Then again if it is, nobody will miss you should it prove to be terminal.

I'd say you should have that hideous growth on your neck checked out...but that's your head. Ain't no fixing that.

The Rube
11-16-2011, 12:22 AM
And the camera jockey chimes in. Now it's a party!

Stop hanging banners, and we'll stop the hanging banner jokes. Quite simple.

Bakunin
11-16-2011, 12:25 AM
I'd say you should have that hideous growth on your neck checked out...but that's your head. Ain't no fixing that.
You should really quit looking in the mirror while you post.

First Time, Long Time
11-16-2011, 12:28 AM
People are welcome to disagree with arguments. Disagreeing with facts on the other hand DOES make them/you stupid and worthy of zero respect (ah, there's that word again).

Given how touchy you are about it, my guess is it didn't lead you into the land of prosperity like my major did. :p

And if you truly are a student of science, you should have the good sense to recognize evidence and adjust your assumptions and hypothesis accordingly. Direct observation indicates MN is playing better this year than they have in any season going back to '06-'07. There are several factors behind this resurgence, and they have been identified for you by those of us who have studied (i.e. watched) the team play. Your continued refusal to accept the evidence reminds me a great deal of the climate change deniers who will continue ignoring every study and cherry pick every bit of data they can to drag their feet and obfuscate. What this tells me is you are a poor scientist.

DX, are you saying one of us is baking soda and the other is vinegar? :p

I recognize they are playing better, what I'm saying is so what.
You guys have said for years that March and April are all that matter so why should we be impressed by a 10-2 start?

Dude Love
11-16-2011, 12:28 AM
And the camera jockey chimes in. Now it's a party!

Stop hanging banners, and we'll stop the hanging banner jokes. Quite simple.

I haven't see a banner raised there in years. There's two. The Final Five Championship banner and the NCAA Appearance banner. They're not hanging new ones for each appearance...thus no multiple banner raisings.


You should really quit looking in the mirror while you post.

Sick burn.

Koho
11-16-2011, 12:29 AM
Guentzel likely plays a role, but I don't think it's near the level many of you are claiming. Lucia being fully healthy....sure that plays into it a little bit, but again, not as much as people are saying. Seems like more people want to give credit to the coaching changes/staff than the kids themselves. Lucia's systems are still there, his oversight never left but the players are executing. Confidence goes a hell of a long ways. Having Sacred Heart to start the year probably did more than most think. Patterson was there last year but he's playing at a higher level now, especially after starting the year with two shutouts his confidence skyrocketed. The PP clicked right away playing a much less talented team, but it helps build confidence that the things they work on in practice will actually work in a game. So much of it is a mindset (and yes, the coaches play a role in that.)

One reason it could take a turn for the worse, yeah, the schedule is part of it (especially in Jan/Feb.) At UND, CC at home, H&H w/ SCSU, @Denver. That's a rough stretch. I'll fully admit at this point the series with us is probably the "easiest" in that group. Injuries, chemistry issues, etc can happen and right now in this first 12 game stretch it's been going the gophers way. Personally, I plan on seeing all of that start to change sometime around 7:37PM Friday night. :)

I agree with a lot of this. People seem to always want a quick, easy answer to most things, and don't want to take the time to delve into things. Guentzel is clearly a great assistant coach. But he didn't take a last place CC team and put them in first the following year. Lucia did. And there are all kinds of intangibles that determine how a season goes for any given team. Every player that didn't seem to reach his potential in the past three years wasn't purely the fault of Hill. Every team has players who at the end of each year, look like they are ready to improve, but never do. (Remember Tallackson or multiple other "sure stars"?) Some year's teams will have more than others, even with the same coaches in place. Add injuries and varying personalities, early departures and the fact you are recruiting based on how good you think a 16 year old will be in 3 year's, and you can see it isn't one assistant who has all the power to determine how a team will play. If it were, polls, poles pohl's wouldn't be meaningless, including preseason polls. Things are too dynamic through the year to even predict how team will finish at the end of a year. A better coaching staff improves the odds things will go will, but it all about momentum and the psychological make-up of the players that makes hockey so unpredictable and such a great game.

So I agree, I am very happy to see Geuntzel replace Hill, but let's not get carried away in anointing him Saint Mike yet.

Tipsy McStagger
11-16-2011, 12:30 AM
Lucia is finally pretty much back to normal now. He hasn't been since he first became ill in the middle of the '08-'09 season. Yes, his illness helped screw up 3 seasons. By media accounts, he was very difficult to deal with, had violent mood swings, didn't have much energy, and was often away from practices due to treatments and their side effects. There was much argument over the past year or so among Gopher fans as to whether or not he should have (in hindsight) taken a medical leave of absence. Since that would have meant Hill coaching the team, I can't imagine things would have gone much better.
Good to know the U of M players can focus on hockey now that their nanny has come back to change their diapers.

Bakunin
11-16-2011, 12:32 AM
I recognize they are playing better, what I'm saying is so what.
And what we are saying is this isn't likely to be a replay of 2008-09 and have provided plenty of reasons backing that up. The vast majority of MN teams that started well were also a factor down the stretch - unlike your teams, which is why that line of logic is used. Maybe if you paid attention for more than two minutes, you'd have realized that by now.

First Time, Long Time
11-16-2011, 12:32 AM
And the camera jockey chimes in. Now it's a party!

Stop hanging banners, and we'll stop the hanging banner jokes. Quite simple.

What banners?
There are two up there, a Final Five one and an NCAA appearence one.
A third if you count Hedican's retired number.
It's not the fans fault the school chooses to put up the appearence banner.

The Rube
11-16-2011, 12:33 AM
Guentzel is a breath (or re-breath) of fresh air. tDon is healthy. The new recruits aren't being "encouraged," they're being TOLD. And being held accountable.

Hill leaving, which makes the D better (I don't care WHO the coach is), helps open up the offense, which the "old" Gophers were known for. Domino effect.

So on one hand, Guentzel should be hailed, even though he isn't the sole factor of the team doing well. He just started the ball rolling, IMO.

And JBSU fans suck. I can't keep this totally about breakdown. It's only Tuesday!

Tipsy McStagger
11-16-2011, 12:33 AM
You should really quit looking in the mirror while you post.
Ooh, the "I know you are, but what am I" comeback. I bet you do make a boatload of money with that supercomputer in between your ears.

dxmnkd316
11-16-2011, 12:34 AM
Guentzel is a breath (or re-breath) of fresh air.

Think of it as a second wind.

First Time, Long Time
11-16-2011, 12:34 AM
And what we are saying is this isn't likely to be a replay of 2008-09 and have provided plenty of reasons backing that up. The vast majority of MN teams that started well were also a factor down the stretch - unlike your teams, which is why that line of logic is used. Maybe if you paid attention for more than two minutes, you'd have realized that by now.

Previous Minnesota teams that have started well have been a factor so this one is likely to as well?
That's your logic?
Ok then.

The Rube
11-16-2011, 12:38 AM
Previous Minnesota teams that have started well have been a factor so this one is likely to as well?
That's your logic?
Ok then.
You don't have to limit it to MN teams. Teams that start well are more prone to have better success later in the season. Unless you are JBSU. They are the proverbial exception to the rule.

It's science.

Bakunin
11-16-2011, 12:40 AM
Ooh, the "I know you are, but what am I" comeback. I bet you do make a boatload of money with that supercomputer in between your ears.
Camera jockey is D-material, so he only warrants D-material.

Part of being successful is knowing when to give a full effort and when to dial it back a bit.