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troyboy
11-13-2011, 09:45 PM
JMH-Having followed hockey for so long I begin to confuse the seasons-but you are right. This game has changed in so many ways. The entire emphasis has been altered. I know we have not seen a 30+ goal scorer in the ECAC in over 11 years-from any of the teams. I do not have a solution-I do not think they can take away shot blocking-it is just a very valuable part of the game. The goalies are better-for sure. The equipment is better. The defensemen are much bigger yet can skate as well as the forwards. When i first started in college hockey a big forward was about 175 pounds and the usual defensemen was considered huge at 190-200.pounds. Coaches spend so much time on defense and penalty killing that even a 5 on 3 is no longer a guarantee of scoring. I would not want to see too much tampering with the game-I am an old fashioned old time hockey guy. As long as it does not get as bad as soccer (with every game seemingly ending 1-0) I can live with what we seem to have now. Perhaps both our attitudes about low scoring might change once we start pumping a few into the net as this season goes on.:) The days of filling up the net are gone....both Yale and Brown used the trap over the weekend...heck the Tampa Bay Lightening are even trapping now check out the youtube video of them playing the Flyers and Pronger refusing to move the puck out of the zone quite interesting for sure...but love it our hate it its here to stay...any team has a chance to win w/this system thats why special teams are the whole game now.I believe you need to click at about 20-25% on the PP now to be a winning team...look at Cornell how many league championships have they trapped their way to...heck Union trapped their way to a championship last year w/one of the best PP's in the country.We can play with anybody I truely believe that but we need to get the PP in order...I think were what 6% if we can get that to 20% were going to be OK...if not it could get ugly...look at saturday we won w/a power play goal and Brown got blanked on their PP's that was the difference and will continue to be into the future...We seemed to have a little more confidence on the PP sat.and generated a lot more grade A opportunities than we have been so hopefully were on our way...we can thank Lou Lamarillo and Jaques Lemeire for this sh*t show...once you win a few Cups w/it everybody wants to do it !!!!!!!

REDaero91
11-13-2011, 10:33 PM
So I just bought my train ticket to Rochester and my seat for the game against RIT right after Thanksgiving. Anyone else going?

I'm going! Just bought my ticket-General Admission-I'll be looking for the sea of red!

RHamilton
11-14-2011, 01:44 AM
I'm going! Just bought my ticket-General Admission-I'll be looking for the sea of red!

Considering going as well; haven't worked out travel plans or any of that "important" stuff yet. Maybe I'll just buy a ticket and let everything else sort itself out.

lugnut92
11-14-2011, 01:52 AM
Off topic: RHamilton, I just noticed that you haven't updated your sig for any of this season's games. Any reason why, or did you just forget?

RHamilton
11-14-2011, 02:02 AM
Off topic: RHamilton, I just noticed that you haven't updated your sig for any of this season's games. Any reason why, or did you just forget?

None, just laziness!

EDIT: Fixed :)

Ralph Baer
11-14-2011, 03:42 AM
The days of filling up the net are gone....both Yale and Brown used the trap over the weekend...heck the Tampa Bay Lightening are even trapping now check out the youtube video of them playing the Flyers and Pronger refusing to move the puck out of the zone quite interesting for sure...but love it our hate it its here to stay...any team has a chance to win w/this system thats why special teams are the whole game now.I believe you need to click at about 20-25% on the PP now to be a winning team...look at Cornell how many league championships have they trapped their way to...heck Union trapped their way to a championship last year w/one of the best PP's in the country.We can play with anybody I truely believe that but we need to get the PP in order...I think were what 6% if we can get that to 20% were going to be OK...if not it could get ugly...look at saturday we won w/a power play goal and Brown got blanked on their PP's that was the difference and will continue to be into the future...We seemed to have a little more confidence on the PP sat.and generated a lot more grade A opportunities than we have been so hopefully were on our way...we can thank Lou Lamarillo and Jaques Lemeire for this sh*t show...once you win a few Cups w/it everybody wants to do it !!!!!!!

Our powerplay has the ability to get to 20% assuming that it can stay reasonably intact for an extended period.

As to the trap, one can only hope that it will be outlawed when fans stay away.

Ralph Baer
11-14-2011, 03:44 AM
What's the chances we see Bryan Hicks Tuesday?

Didn't he run for Mayor of Schenectady? ;)

FlagDUDE08
11-14-2011, 07:22 AM
Didn't he run for Mayor of Rochester? ;)

FYP. ;):p

DrDemento
11-14-2011, 07:46 AM
The days of filling up the net are gone....both Yale and Brown used the trap over the weekend...heck the Tampa Bay Lightening are even trapping now check out the youtube video of them playing the Flyers and Pronger refusing to move the puck out of the zone quite interesting for sure...but love it our hate it its here to stay...any team has a chance to win w/this system thats why special teams are the whole game now.I believe you need to click at about 20-25% on the PP now to be a winning team...look at Cornell how many league championships have they trapped their way to...heck Union trapped their way to a championship last year w/one of the best PP's in the country.We can play with anybody I truely believe that but we need to get the PP in order...I think were what 6% if we can get that to 20% were going to be OK...if not it could get ugly...look at saturday we won w/a power play goal and Brown got blanked on their PP's that was the difference and will continue to be into the future...We seemed to have a little more confidence on the PP sat.and generated a lot more grade A opportunities than we have been so hopefully were on our way...we can thank Lou Lamarillo and Jaques Lemeire for this sh*t show...once you win a few Cups w/it everybody wants to do it !!!!!!!

You have hit the nail on the head. The trap is as important to holding down scoring as anything in the game. Variations of it have been used for ages. Whether you call it the Left Wing Lock or something else, all of it is designed to prevent the other team from scoring. One thing that might be tried-is to revrse the old 'Gretzky' rule that the NHL instituted way back when teams draw matching penalties. Perhaps on ice strength should be reduced for every matching penalty-making for lots more 4 on 4 or even 3 on 3 play. I would find that very acceptable-for me it would even be bringing back the wide open hockey I used to enjoy as a kid.

FreshFish
11-14-2011, 09:01 AM
I vote to go back to discussing barbers. :p

I dunno, Ralph, the word "haircut" has so many different meanings in so many different contexts, you never know who you might offend these days!

:rolleyes:

REDaero91
11-14-2011, 10:42 AM
Off topic: RHamilton, I just noticed that you haven't updated your sig for any of this season's games. Any reason why, or did you just forget?

Speaking of RPI TV...It looks like only the pregame and first period against Brown are up. Did it get lost again?

FlagDUDE08
11-14-2011, 10:47 AM
I was thinking about this for a bit last night, and had an idea as to why we seem to have our difficulties.

Everyone, what does RPI do when they first take possession and try to gain the zone? What do they do on the power play? Don't answer these on here, just develop a mental answer. Go ahead, I'll wait.

...

*hums Jeopardy theme*

...

I'm sure many of you observant ones will be able to answer these questions with at least 85% accuracy. My point is that I have this feeling that our opponents have caught on to what we do and are ready for it. Let's see if we can throw something at them that they're not ready for.

ibanezist00
11-14-2011, 10:51 AM
I was thinking about this for a bit last night, and had an idea as to why we seem to have our difficulties.

Everyone, what does RPI do when they first take possession and try to gain the zone? What do they do on the power play? Don't answer these on here, just develop a mental answer. Go ahead, I'll wait.

...

*hums Jeopardy theme*

...

I'm sure many of you observant ones will be able to answer these questions with at least 85% accuracy. My point is that I have this feeling that our opponents have caught on to what we do and are ready for it. Let's see if we can throw something at them that they're not ready for.

Excellent post, especially since I arrived at the answer about 2 seconds after reading the questions. If the fans are able to figure it out that quickly, I'm sure opposing coaches can, too, and figure out a solid way to exploit it. Change it up, RPI.

Ralph Baer
11-14-2011, 11:03 AM
I dunno, Ralph, the word "haircut" has so many different meanings in so many different contexts, you never know who you might offend these days!

:rolleyes:


Of course I had to look it up in the Urban Dictionary.

FWIW, I used to like that barber shop.

rvd5star69
11-14-2011, 11:40 AM
Of course I had to look it up in the Urban Dictionary.

FWIW, I used to like that barber shop.

A random tuesday night. Tell everyone you know to go to this game. Let's get a good crowd at the hfh.

hawthr
11-14-2011, 11:45 AM
RHam, I know you're not responsible for it, but I'm sure you are in touch with the powers that are...we have a fancy video scoreboard, and yet no video intro for the team yet this season! I asked Beattie about it earlier this year, and he had stated it wasn't ready yet. Well here we are in mid-November and still no pumpup video!
I enjoyed the hell out of last year's, and I want it to come back.

mackek2
11-14-2011, 11:54 AM
Speaking of RPI TV...It looks like only the pregame and first period against Brown are up. Did it get lost again?

Our encoding and streaming server looks like it crashed last night. Hopefully it will be back up in the next few hours, and we can processing the last two periods. I think Period 2 might already be done, the server just needs to be power cycled.

Ralph Baer
11-14-2011, 12:03 PM
A random tuesday night. Tell everyone you know to go to this game. Let's get a good crowd at the hfh. I don't know why you asking me this, but OK, I'll tell everyone. :rolleyes:

FlagDUDE08
11-14-2011, 12:06 PM
I don't know why you asking me this, but OK, I'll tell everyone. :rolleyes:

At least he's got the grammar down. Now all we gotta work on is when to select "Reply With Quote" rather than just "Reply" or "Reply to Thread".

Red Cloud
11-14-2011, 12:40 PM
At least he's got the grammar down. Now all we gotta work on is when to select "Reply With Quote" rather than just "Reply" or "Reply to Thread".

Not sure you're the right person to be criticizing others' posting habits.