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DrDemento
12-08-2011, 12:42 PM
Switching back to this coming weekend-we play Union on the big sheet of ice-how should that change our approach? If at all? Do we make any changes in the players we put out there? I would imagine that it is more difficult to play the trap or other defensive systems with the extra width of ice. Sorry for bringing this back to discussing hockey.;)

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 01:21 PM
We can't train some RPI fans to use the alumni thread, why do you expect that to work? ;)

Ralph, they're doing us a favor... they're giving us reason to pad our post counts. :p I mean, how else am I going to get to 10,000?

babo
12-08-2011, 01:22 PM
Switching back to this coming weekend-we play Union on the big sheet of ice-how should that change our approach? If at all? Do we make any changes in the players we put out there? I would imagine that it is more difficult to play the trap or other defensive systems with the extra width of ice. Sorry for bringing this back to discussing hockey.;)

I imagine that the usual 'big sheet' approach will be employed; the faster, puck carrying skaters will get the lion's share of time. This game may lend itself to our offensive attempt to start putting bigger number up...I'm still looking for my kazoo...

Ralph Baer
12-08-2011, 01:25 PM
Ralph, they're doing us a favor... they're giving us reason to pad our post counts. :p I mean, how else am I going to get to 10,000?

You'll find a way.

FreshFish
12-08-2011, 01:29 PM
they're giving us reason to pad our post counts.

Why do you suddenly need "a reason" now? You've been going along so well without one so far! :rolleyes::p:D

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 01:29 PM
Switching back to this coming weekend-we play Union on the big sheet of ice-how should that change our approach? If at all? Do we make any changes in the players we put out there? I would imagine that it is more difficult to play the trap or other defensive systems with the extra width of ice. Sorry for bringing this back to discussing hockey.;)

Hopefully with the larger ice we will change our break-out approach. Although, thinking about a zone defense, that may be why we break-out the way we break out.

With the larger ice, I wouldn't be surprised to see the bruisers take a back seat. The biggest issue, though, with the injuries, I don't think we'll have much of a choice in who plays.

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 01:30 PM
You'll find a way.

I guess that's the reason for the association threads. :D

Hockey111
12-08-2011, 01:44 PM
Hopefully with the larger ice we will change our break-out approach. Although, thinking about a zone defense, that may be why we break-out the way we break out.

With the larger ice, I wouldn't be surprised to see the bruisers take a back seat. The biggest issue, though, with the injuries, I don't think we'll have much of a choice in who plays.

Are you serious? It really doesnít matter who we play at this point. No clear standouts. We have a lot of really good players that need to pull it together more as a team. But at this point, I donít see anyone racking up the points or standing out. So, for the players that may follow this board. Itís an even playing field. Keep working hard and more cohesively as a team. I feel a BIG W! Good luck this weekend.

Ralph Baer
12-08-2011, 01:55 PM
Are you serious? It really doesnít matter who we play at this point. No clear standouts. We have a lot of really good players that need to pull it together more as a team. But at this point, I donít see anyone racking up the points or standing out. So, for the players that may follow this board. Itís an even playing field. Keep working hard and more cohesively as a team. I feel a BIG W! Good luck this weekend. A problem is finding players who can play well together.

FreshFish
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
A problem is finding players who can play well together.

In my non-hockey athletic experience, that is a combition of several things:
> 'position skills' coaching (the nuts and bolts, e.g. in basketball on defense you side-shuffle but do not cross one leg over the other: practice 100 times, rest, repeat)
> 'player integration' coaching (e.g. timing plays; e.g. in volleyball on the quick set, the spiker and the setter have to practice together over and over and over).
> each player's aptitude and ability
> players' chemistry with each other (I had a doubles partner with whom we each could move instinctively without speaking to the right spot since we understood the nuances of the details of the game the same way. It would weird out other teams sometimes when we would break for positions on the court while the other team was serving since we each could tell by the server's motion where the ball was going to go before it even crossed the net).

Given the substantial degree of turnover this year combined with injuries, I am expecting / hoping for all of this to gel come February and March and for us to do some serious damage come ECAC tournament time.

Ralph Baer
12-08-2011, 03:16 PM
In my non-hockey athletic experience, that is a combition of several things:
> 'position skills' coaching (the nuts and bolts, e.g. in basketball on defense you side-shuffle but do not cross one leg over the other: practice 100 times, rest, repeat)
> 'player integration' coaching (e.g. timing plays; e.g. in volleyball on the quick set, the spiker and the setter have to practice together over and over and over).
> each player's aptitude and ability
> players' chemistry with each other (I had a doubles partner with whom we each could move instinctively without speaking to the right spot since we understood the nuances of the details of the game the same way. It would weird out other teams sometimes when we would break for positions on the court while the other team was serving since we each could tell by the server's motion where the ball was going to go before it even crossed the net).

Given the substantial degree of turnover this year combined with injuries, I am expecting / hoping for all of this to gel come February and March and for us to do some serious damage come ECAC tournament time. I can only hope. If I expect it, it won't happen. :(

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 03:52 PM
I can only hope. If I expect it, it won't happen. :(

We did start the belief of that being possible in 2008-09. We should strive to finish the job this year and win the league championship.

AspyDad
12-08-2011, 04:58 PM
I concur

I like going off topic everyone once in awhile myself. I also concur.

Ralph Baer
12-08-2011, 05:02 PM
As much as I enjoy the hockey talk, I also enjoy the off-topic talk, too. It's a nice reprieve from our team's woes and it just goes to show that we're human and want to actually chat with each other. Not to mention ganging up on he-whose-name-won't-be-uttered. :p

Hockey111
12-08-2011, 05:07 PM
a problem is finding players who can play well together.

agree!!!

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 05:08 PM
Not to mention ganging up on he-whose-name-won't-be-uttered. :p

How nice of you to give me such deference. :D

FreshFish
12-08-2011, 05:12 PM
:p
How nice of you to give me such deference. :D

Did you confuse yourself with someone else? I thought you were "he who looks for any reason to get his post count up. *" :p

I thought Ralph was referring to He Who Must Be Ignored.



* and will post even without a reason if need be.

Wholin1
12-08-2011, 05:15 PM
I didn't see a game thread or I may have missed it. Union has also been bitten by the injury / illness bug as both Stevens and Grosenick are hurt or sick. Also Kyle Bodie is apparently out and his brother Mat is questionable along with Matt Hatch. Not looking for sympathy here as RPI's issues are well documented in this area. Is it fair to say that this is a much bigger game for RPI than Union? I think a win by RPI could really turn their season around whereas a Union loss though it would be an upset or sorts would be of less significance. I'm not sure why, but I'm not getting the same buzz from this game as I always would. Maybe there have been too many meetings lately or maybe it's just that neither team seems to be in top form at the moment.

DrDemento
12-08-2011, 05:19 PM
I didn't see a game thread or I may have missed it. Union has also been bitten by the injury / illness bug as both Stevens and Grosenick are hurt or sick. Also Kyle Bodie is apparently out and his brother Mat is questionable along with Matt Hatch. Not looking for sympathy here as RPI's issues are well documented in this area. Is it fair to say that this is a much bigger game for RPI than Union? I think a win by RPI could really turn their season around whereas a Union loss though it would be an upset or sorts would be of less significance. I'm not sure why, but I'm not getting the same buzz from this game as I always would. Maybe there have been too many meetings lately or maybe it's just that neither team seems to be in top form at the moment.

Were these injuries sustained during games or in practice? We seem to pile up our injuries when we are not even playing.:eek:

FlagDUDE08
12-08-2011, 05:21 PM
I didn't see a game thread or I may have missed it. Union has also been bitten by the injury / illness bug as both Stevens and Grosenick are hurt or sick. Also Kyle Bodie is apparently out and his brother Mat is questionable along with Matt Hatch. Not looking for sympathy here as RPI's issues are well documented in this area. Is it fair to say that this is a much bigger game for RPI than Union? I think a win by RPI could really turn their season around whereas a Union loss though it would be an upset or sorts would be of less significance. I'm not sure why, but I'm not getting the same buzz from this game as I always would. Maybe there have been too many meetings lately or maybe it's just that neither team seems to be in top form at the moment.

Given where you guys are in ratings percentage index (currently a TUC), I'd say it's bigger for you. For us, we're just trying to salvage what we can for league play, since the best we can do OOC is .500. You have everything to lose if we win or tie, even though it's still just a non-conference game, and not being a TUC wouldn't hurt you as much in the long run.