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eg1351
11-09-2011, 06:11 PM
makes sense to me. unless ties are worth .5?

westeast
11-10-2011, 07:05 AM
This sounds fun, but the scoring system doesn't quite make sense. I would say one point per right game prediction (e.g. Gac Sweep predicted, GAC sweep = 2 points; GAC loses/ties one= one point, GAC loses both/ties both = 0 points). So a tie would have to be predicted to be correct, etc.


Example:

Win game = 2pts
Tie = 1pt
Loss/tie = minus 1 pt
2 game prediction correct = 1pt

Is this to much ??

eg1351
11-10-2011, 11:51 AM
Example:

Win game = 2pts
Tie = 1pt
Loss/tie = minus 1 pt
2 game prediction correct = 1pt

Is this to much ??

I don't entirely understand it but as long as someone else keeps score I am down for it.

westeast
11-10-2011, 01:19 PM
I don't entirely understand it but as long as someone else keeps score I am down for it.

Funny, yea I know what you mean..What is the simplest way to score so we don't confuse everyone?

eg1351
11-10-2011, 02:41 PM
Funny, yea I know what you mean..What is the simplest way to score so we don't confuse everyone?

it could be based on the % of points correctly predicated? The actual points of the team you predict takes more points (based on the 4 available points for 2 wins), is the numerator. The denominator is the # of points you predicted they would score. If your score is greater than 100%, you subtract 10% from 100% for every point over predicted. Your score = your percentage.

It comes out looking kind of complicated but I think it is simple using the following key (Team A is the team predicted to be superior in the series):
Ex:
1) Predict: Team A sweeps Team B
a) Actual: Team A sweeps Team B (A=4 points) - scoring: 4/4 = 100%
b) Actual Team A wins & ties (A=3 points) - scoring: 3/4 = 75%
c) Actual: Split (A=2 points) - Scoring: 2/4 = 50%
d) Actual: Team A loses & ties (A=1 point) - scoring: 1/4 = 25%
e) Actual: Team A gets swept (A=0 points) - scoring: 0/4 = 0%

2) Predict: Team A gets 3 points (win & tie)
a) Actual: Team A sweeps Team B (A=4 points) - scoring: 4/3= over 100% - subtract 10% = 90%
b) Actual Team A wins & ties (A=3 points) - scoring: 3/3 = 100%
c) Actual: Split (A=2 points) - Scoring: 2/3 = 67%%
d) Actual: Team A loses & ties (A=1 point) - scoring: 1/3 = 33%
e) Actual: Team A gets swept (A=0 points) - scoring: 0/3 = 0%

3) Predict: team A & team B split
a) Actual: Team A sweeps Team B (A=4 points) - scoring: 4/2 = over 100% - subtract 20% = 80%
b) Actual Team A wins & ties (A=3 points) - scoring: 3/2 = over 100% - subtract 10% = 90%
c) Actual: Split (A=2 points) - Scoring: 2/2 = 100%
d) Actual: Team A loses & ties (A=1 point) - scoring: 1/2 = 50%
e) Actual: Team A gets swept (A=0 points) - scoring: 0/3 = 0%



EDIT: After review - I am unsure how to determine who is Team A if you predict a split. This causes problems when it comes to underprediction penalization. Any ideas?

eg1351
11-10-2011, 02:42 PM
Just a note: I came up with this on the fly and haven't thought through it 100%. If you notice something that doesn't logically make sense with the scoring (or you just plain old don't like it), feel free to speak up.

westeast
11-11-2011, 08:48 AM
My picks

St. Thomas vs. St. Ben's - St. Thomas sweep
GAC vs. Bethel - Split
St. Olaf @ Concordia - Split
Augsburg vs. St. Kate's St. Kate's sweeps
Hamline vs. St. Mary's St. Mary's sweeps

123kidd
11-11-2011, 10:25 AM
Well St. Thomas and St. Ben's tied last night, so hurry up and change your predictions...

westeast
11-11-2011, 10:37 AM
Well St. Thomas and St. Ben's tied last night, so hurry up and change your predictions...

Funny, I will have to stick with what I have...I guess I need to watch more carefully when the games are. I'm sure know one predicted a tie so I'm good..haha

eg1351
11-11-2011, 11:26 AM
Funny, I will have to stick with what I have...I guess I need to watch more carefully when the games are. I'm sure know one predicted a tie so I'm good..haha

I did predicated St. Thomas would sweep, but i also predicted St Thomas wouldn't be as good this year so I feel like I broke even.

123kidd
11-11-2011, 11:59 AM
How can they not be as good? Were Fallen, Grossman and Psimos that important to their team? They brought in much better talent than what left.

eg1351
11-11-2011, 12:28 PM
They weren't even that solid last year.

I guess to be fair, its less about them not being as talented as they were in the past, and more about other teams closing the gap. I just don't see them having the same dominance they had a few years ago. And I think they will be even closer to the rest of the pack this year. B

westeast
11-11-2011, 01:28 PM
St. Thomas will be good but not like years past. The other MIAC teams have come up with talent and that will show as the season goes by. The MIAC is going to be crazy this year I think. Every team needs to be ready for teams that they have beat in the past. It started last night with St. Bens VS St. Thomas. what upsets are in store for this weekend? Who knows....

eg1351
11-14-2011, 08:33 AM
I feel like it was a crazy weekend but I think this is just what the MIAC will be this year.

UST 2 St. Bens 2
Gustavus 5 Bethel 1
St. Olaf 3 Concordia 5
Augsburg 3 St. Kates 1
Hamline 0 St. Marys 1
St. Bens 1 St. Thomas 3
St Olaf 4 Concordia 4
Bethel 3 Gustavus 6
St Kates 4 Augsburg 2
St. Mary 1 Hamline 1

Summary:
St. Thomas vs St. Bens - St. Thomas 3 Points
Gustavus vs. Bethel - Gustavus 4 points
St. Olaf vs. Concordia - Concordia 3 points
Augsburg vs. St. Kates - split
Hamline vs. St. Mary's - St. Mary's 3 points

Standings:
1 Gustavus 4
2 Saint Mary's 3
3 St. Thomas 3
4 Concordia 3
5 St. Catherine 2
6 Augsburg 2
7 Saint Benedict 1
8 Hamline 1
9 St. Olaf 1
10 Bethel 0


Too bad for Bethel with Newstrom being out but at least they have GAC out of the way. I was surprised Hamline held SMU so close. Hamline might be the dark horse this year. I was also surprised by Concordia taking care of Olaf, but Concordia is a tough place to play and they definitely have an advantage when playing at home. Obviously the St. Thomas tie to St. Ben's was surprising. St. Kate's freshman heavy roster got a wake up call by splitting with Augsburg. Hopefully that is out of the way for them.

Needless to say, who knows what to expect for next week! Going to be a crazy year. I'll put my predictions out in a bit.

westeast
11-15-2011, 08:05 AM
I feel like it was a crazy weekend but I think this is just what the MIAC will be this year.

UST 2 St. Bens 2
Gustavus 5 Bethel 1
St. Olaf 3 Concordia 5
Augsburg 3 St. Kates 1
Hamline 0 St. Marys 1
St. Bens 1 St. Thomas 3
St Olaf 4 Concordia 4
Bethel 3 Gustavus 6
St Kates 4 Augsburg 2
St. Mary 1 Hamline 1

Summary:
St. Thomas vs St. Bens - St. Thomas 3 Points
Gustavus vs. Bethel - Gustavus 4 points
St. Olaf vs. Concordia - Concordia 3 points
Augsburg vs. St. Kates - split
Hamline vs. St. Mary's - St. Mary's 3 points

Standings:
1 Gustavus 4
2 Saint Mary's 3
3 St. Thomas 3
4 Concordia 3
5 St. Catherine 2
6 Augsburg 2
7 Saint Benedict 1
8 Hamline 1
9 St. Olaf 1
10 Bethel 0


Too bad for Bethel with Newstrom being out but at least they have GAC out of the way. I was surprised Hamline held SMU so close. Hamline might be the dark horse this year. I was also surprised by Concordia taking care of Olaf, but Concordia is a tough place to play and they definitely have an advantage when playing at home. Obviously the St. Thomas tie to St. Ben's was surprising. St. Kate's freshman heavy roster got a wake up call by splitting with Augsburg. Hopefully that is out of the way for them.

Needless to say, who knows what to expect for next week! Going to be a crazy year. I'll put my predictions out in a bit.

I agree with you on that the MIAC this year will be wild. Also this is what is fun about hockey any given weekend some team will knock off a so called top team. It get's more interesting after Christmas.

eg1351
11-16-2011, 08:09 AM
This Week's Predictions
Concordia @ Bethel - Bethel sweeps (this assumes Newstrom is healthy)
St. Thomas vs Gustavus - Gustavus sweeps
St. Olaf vs. Hamline - Olaf 3 points
St. Mary's vs. St. Kate's - St. Mary's sweeps
Augsburg vs. St. Ben's - Split

Tuesday
St. Olaf @ River Falls

westeast
11-16-2011, 01:57 PM
Bank it Week's Predictions
Concordia @ Bethel - Bethel Split
St. Thomas vs Gustavus - Split
St. Olaf vs. Hamline - Split
St. Mary's vs. St. Kate's - Split
Augsburg vs. St. Ben's - Split

This is the week of splits.

egon_getts
11-17-2011, 02:50 PM
This Week's Predictions:

Concordia @ Bethel - Split
St. Thomas vs Gustavus - Gustavus sweep
St. Olaf vs. Hamline - St. Olaf sweep
St. Mary's vs. St. Kate's - Split
Augsburg vs. St. Ben's - Split

Tuesday
St. Olaf @ River Falls - River Falls will win big, by 3 or 4 goals

As for scoring the whole points thing, I still am partial to my own system, because I think the whole subtracting 10% thing leads to underpredicting being worth more points, because if you only PREDICT 1 point every time, you'll do very well, cause you won't ever get lower than 70%.

eg1351
11-21-2011, 04:13 PM
Results

Concordia @ Bethel - Split
St. Thomas vs Gustavus - Gustavus sweep
St. Olaf vs. Hamline - St. Olaf sweep
St. Mary's vs. St. Kate's - St. Kate's 3 points
Augsburg vs. St. Ben's - Split


Egon nailed it, missing only the tie in the SMU/SCU series.

eg1351
11-28-2011, 01:11 PM
And we are back.

This Weeks Matchups (my predictions in bold)

GAC vs. Augsburg - GAC sweep
Hamline vs. Bethel - Assuming Newstrom is healthy, Bethel sweep. If she isn't healthy, I say Bethel 3 points.
St. Olaf vs. St. Mary's - Split
Concordia @ St. Thomas - Split
St. Kate's vs. St. Ben's - St. Kate's sweeps