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Mike Hutter
08-25-2011, 01:39 PM
First posted on PC thread. It mentions the bidding for the NCAA regionals and the Ice Breaker. Scroll down further and there is mention of bidding for the ECAC finals.

http://www.projo.com/pc/content/Dunk_Ice_Breaker_PC_Brown_08-25-11_0IPULG6_v2.35eca.html#.TlaFeWwVGLA.email

bothman
08-25-2011, 03:23 PM
Always thought this was a logical #2 (after Boston), particularly since the city has been majorly upgraded & invested in over the last decade. Since people aren't willing to play 2nd fiddle to Hockey East and have this in Boston, then I like this pick.

Airport /Train Station - Check
Stuff to do - Check
Relevance/Proximity to ECAC - Check
Local School - Check

CHFAN222
08-25-2011, 03:37 PM
Providence would be 1000x better for hosting a regional than Worcester. No offense to Worcester but Providence is an area that is more accessible to people in Boston and has more things to do. The only downside would be for people coming in from NY who would have to now drive past Worcester and take I guess 495 to 95 to get to Providence.

Ice breaker also makes more sense in Providence than in a city without anytime nearby like St. Louis.

Kepler
08-25-2011, 04:32 PM
Meh. The league is probably in a panic after last year.

The practical choice is Albany. The romantic choice is Lake Placid. There really aren't any other good choices.

FlagDUDE08
08-25-2011, 08:19 PM
Providence would be 1000x better for hosting a regional than Worcester. No offense to Worcester but Providence is an area that is more accessible to people in Boston and has more things to do. The only downside would be for people coming in from NY who would have to now drive past Worcester and take I guess 495 to 95 to get to Providence.

Ice breaker also makes more sense in Providence than in a city without anytime nearby like St. Louis.

Nah, MA/RI 146 will get you in straight from the pike.

sk8tronthepond
08-25-2011, 09:29 PM
After the money/contract runs out in AC, the ECAC will be back in LP. Providence would be a close second!:)

redhead18
08-26-2011, 08:07 AM
After the money/contract runs out in AC, the ECAC will be back in LP. Providence would be a close second!:)IMO, getting the tournament out of Atlantic City starting this season is a good idea. Move it to Providence until the contract ends in 2013 and see how it does. Then in 2014, if the tournament is a bust, bring it back to LP. However, I feel Providence has some potential for hosting a successful championship weekend.

Red Cloud
08-26-2011, 08:45 AM
Airport /Train Station - Check
Stuff to do - Check
Relevance/Proximity to ECAC - Check
Local School - Check

Jesus Christ, you're making Providence sound like *gasp* ALBANY!

Timmah!
08-26-2011, 08:58 AM
I live just outside of Providence, so out of purely selfish reasons I would be thrilled if the ECAC tourney moved there. (even moreso if RPI would finally make it back to the final four...)

To Kepler's point, LP and Albany still make the most sense, but if Providence puts their best foot forward, we might be surprised. The area around the Dunk is filled with brew pubs, bars, and restaurants. Federal hill is right around the corner for italian food, and the Providence Place mall has several worthwhile entertainment options (IMAX theater, Dave & Busters, etc...). Further out, Thayer St up near Brown's campus is well worth a visit.

It's not the most convenient trip for some of the NJ/NY fan bases, but Providence as a city has a lot more to offer fans than Albany.

sk8tronthepond
08-26-2011, 10:27 AM
IMO, getting the tournament out of Atlantic City starting this season is a good idea. Move it to Providence until the contract ends in 2013 and see how it does. Then in 2014, if the tournament is a bust, bring it back to LP. However, I feel Providence has some potential for hosting a successful championship weekend.

Since we are dealing with reality here, it is not the ECAC that can leave Atlantic City. Based on their contract, Atlantic City would have to choose not to host.

joecct
08-26-2011, 12:44 PM
Since we are dealing with reality here, it is not the ECAC that can leave Atlantic City. Based on their contract, Atlantic City would have to choose not to host.We could always pray that Irene helps the process along.....

As much as I like Lake Placid, you have to remember that Plattsburgh State, ORDA, and the NCAA seem to have a deal worked out to periodically host the D-III championships the same weekend as the D-I conference finals. LP is hosting in both 12 and 13, so the earliest the ECAC can try to get back in Herb Brooks will be 2014.

kdiff77
08-26-2011, 01:18 PM
I would love this. I'd go every year, even if Brown wasn't in it.

I made a case in a few old threads for Providence to get the ECAC Championships. I think it would be moderately successful. The building is smaller and nicer (renovated about three years ago) than the TUC, and would be a better setting, IMO.

I agree that it would be best off in LP, but I'd also love to see them give Providence a shot for a couple years. If it doesn't work and the fans aren't coming, then move it. In any event, I would defy anyone to tell me that AC would be a better draw (unless you're a Princeton fan).

Jasma
08-26-2011, 02:29 PM
Relevance to ECAC? Maybe the old 18 team ECAC, but not this one. Brown is the only nearby school and aside from the run two years ago, they haven't been relevant in years.

Jasma
08-26-2011, 02:32 PM
Providence has indeed rebounded and is a nice city with much to do. It might be a good idea to try the tournament there.
Everyone puts Albany down, but within a short distance - a mile - you have the clubs and restaurants on Lark Street and New Scotland Avenue as well as the few spots on Pearl Street near the arena. The lack of a decent downtown hotel is Albany's biggest shortfall as well as the lack of promotion by the city and the league. You can't just open the doors and expect people to flock to the games. You need to promote the event and try to build some league loyaty among the fan base. That doesn't exist any more in the ECAC.

Red Cloud
08-26-2011, 02:35 PM
The lack of a decent downtown hotel is Albany's biggest shortfall as well as the lack of promotion by the city and the league.

No, there's nothing to do in Albany. bothman said so - and we need lace curtain San Franciscans to tell us this, natch.

bothman
08-26-2011, 07:33 PM
Jesus Christ, you're making Providence sound like *gasp* ALBANY!

Except that Providence seems to actually want to host the tourney, whereas Albany could have cared less.

Having the host city want you to be there...there's a novel concept!

bothman
08-26-2011, 07:37 PM
No, there's nothing to do in Albany. bothman said so - and we need lace curtain San Franciscans to tell us this, natch.

The Bay Area rules the world...didn't you get the memo? As a Northeasterner of 33yrs and 3yrs in Bay Area, I highly encourage everyone to visit. It's a great spot.

Seems like I am not alone on Albany having much to offer relative to other locales.

Wholin1
08-26-2011, 08:42 PM
The ECAC lost $60K the last year in Albany. They made $150K last year in AC. It's all about the money.

Sean Pickett
08-26-2011, 09:42 PM
Here are most of the attendance figures for the ECAC Hockey Championships from 1999-2011 except for 2002 and the 2010 semifinals. From 1999-2003 both semifinals had separate attendance figures.



SF1 SF2 Final Location

1999 6,679 8,000 8,469 Lake Placid
2000 5,389 4,000 6,790 Lake Placid
2001 4,490 4,990 6,256 Lake Placid
2002 5 0 6 Lake Placid
2003 6,936 6,810 8,296 Albany
2004 5,641 6,489 Albany
2005 7,580 8,637 Albany
2006 6,255 7,093 Albany
2007 4,484 5,565 Albany
2008 5,074 4,851 Albany
2009 3,517 4,857 Albany
2010 0 6,505 Albany
2011 3,357 4,126 Atlantic City

Sean

Red Cloud
08-28-2011, 10:23 AM
The Bay Area rules the world...didn't you get the memo? As a Northeasterner of 33yrs and 3yrs in Bay Area, I highly encourage everyone to visit. It's a great spot.

I was there last week and was less than impressed.


Seems like I am not alone on Albany having much to offer relative to other locales.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - if you can't find things to do in Albany, you're a boring person.