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4four4
08-04-2011, 11:29 AM
http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ccha-wcha-talk-merger-08-03-11

On a positive note this would be a pretty good league and remember you can't blame UND or DU anymore.

Flashy Man
08-04-2011, 11:35 AM
http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ccha-wcha-talk-merger-08-03-11

On a positive note this would be a pretty good league and remember you can't blame UND or DU anymore.

Terrible idea, why would the Have-nots give up an autobid that could potentially go to the Haves as an at-large?

pinch
08-04-2011, 11:37 AM
How do you think NMU would vote on this

JF_Gophers
08-04-2011, 11:45 AM
I'd vote no. But then again I don't really care about the CCHA, including Notre Dame.

FlagDUDE08
08-04-2011, 11:45 AM
Sounds like another great way to give the cold shoulder to UAH.

dggoddard
08-04-2011, 11:47 AM
Terrible idea, why would the Have-nots give up an autobid that could potentially go to the Haves as an at-large?Who are the "Haves" in this situation?

The only reason this plan makes any sense is that with a 10 team league a majority of teams wouldn't have to travel to Alaska twice or possibly three times in the playoffs.

FlagDUDE08
08-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Who are the "Haves" in this situation?

The only reason this plan makes any sense is that with a 10 team league a majority of teams wouldn't have to travel to Alaska twice or possibly three times in the playoffs.

The "Haves" would be the members of the BHHC.

dggoddard
08-04-2011, 11:54 AM
Possible Schedule:

28 Games. You play every team in your division four times, plus a natural rival four times [UAA-UA, MTU-NMU, SCSU/BSU/MSUM-BG/FSU/LSSU] and the remaining four teams in the other division twice.

The teams going up there each season could go up on the same week as another school and flip-flop. Viola - One trip to Alaska per year and possibly no classes missed if they can swing it over breaks.

Assume the Alaska schools could cover the hotel bill as it would save on airfare. You could shave two days off the hotel bill by scheduling a Saturday-Sunday series the first weekend and Thursday-Friday series the second weekend

West
UAA
MTU
SCSU
MSUM
BSU


East
UA
NMU
BG
FSU
LSSU

Andrew J Carter
08-04-2011, 12:07 PM
Terrible idea, why would the Have-nots give up an autobid that could potentially go to the Haves as an at-large?

I'm with you, why give up those automatic bids ???

SanTropez
08-04-2011, 12:16 PM
ND will inform the CCHA of its decision at the league's annual summer meetings Aug. 15-16 in Dearborn, Mich., ND associate media relations director Tim Connor said.
Once the Fighting Irish announce their decision, the rest of college hockey's realignment is expected to be completed quickly.


This is the key to everything, once they decide where they will be playing teams will begin scrambling for conferences and entry into them.

dggoddard
08-04-2011, 12:21 PM
Interesting that the CCHA-WCHA held the meeting in Chicago as this was the site of the "secret meeting" in Feb. for Super League ADs. Wonder if it was held in the same airport hotel?

beaverhockeyfan
08-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Terrible idea, why would the Have-nots give up an autobid that could potentially go to the Haves as an at-large?

Agreed! If the CCHA can stay viable, that is one less bid in the at large pool.

dggoddard
08-04-2011, 12:29 PM
Agreed! If the CCHA can stay viable, that is one less bid in the at large pool.I suspect the 28 guaranteed league games plus lots of games against natural rivals trumps the auto-bid. Follow the $$$.

bronconick
08-04-2011, 12:33 PM
If an autobid was worth that much, the CHA would still exist. Not surprising that this is at least being looked at.

Timmah!
08-04-2011, 12:34 PM
In my opinion, a merger of this type would be detrimental to the growth of the sport.

When it comes to future expansion, the B1G will only take their own. The NCHC will likely only add teams that can improve their "brand". The Eastern conferences are currently packed, and would likely only expand for big programs (ie Notre Dame). A combined WCHA-CCHA would have little room for growth, and would leave some existing teams out in the cold.

I liked the idea of WCHA pulling some CCHA teams to get to 6-8, and CCHA pulling AHA teams to get to at least 6-8. Doing that would create ample room for growth for new teams in the East and West, and give UAH a great shot at finding a new home. If a huge, big $$ program steps up to start hockey, no conference will refuse them, regardless of how packed the conference is. However, smaller programs that might be thinking about making the jump are far more likely to do so if they have viable options for conference affiliation.

I realize that a merger like this is probably very appealing to many of the teams left behind in CCHA, but I don't think it is the right move...

FlagDUDE08
08-04-2011, 12:36 PM
Interesting that the CCHA-WCHA held the meeting in Chicago as this was the site of the "secret meeting" in Feb. for Super League ADs. Wonder if it was held in the same airport hotel?

Does anything good come out of Chicago? :eek::D

bronconick
08-04-2011, 12:40 PM
I realize that a merger like this is probably very appealing to many of the teams left behind in CCHA, but I don't think it is the right move...

So the remaining CCHA teams should take up the fallen banner of the CHA of being "available" out west if someone wants to add the sport so everyone else can feel good about themselves?

Yeah, I can't see why that idea doesn't thrill them.

SCSU Euro
08-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Possible Schedule:

28 Games. You play every team in your division four times, plus a natural rival four times [UAA-UA, MTU-NMU, SCSU/BSU/MSUM-BG/FSU/LSSU] and the remaining four teams in the other division twice.

The non-Alaskan teams would only have to play both UAA & UA in Alaska once every four seasons. Plus the teams going up there each season could go up on the same week as another school and flip-flop. Viola - One trip to Alaska per year and possibly no classes missed if they can swing it over breaks.

Assume the Alaska schools could cover the hotel bill as it would save on airfare. You could shave two days off the hotel bill by scheduling a Saturday-Sunday series the first weekend and Thursday-Friday series the second weekend

West
UAA
MTU
SCSU
MSUM
BSU


East
UA
NMU
BG
FSU
LSSU

Not sure if you're off on your math, I'm off on my math, or if I'm misunderstanding, but don't all teams travel to both sites every other year? Let's take one team in this example, SCSU. SCSU (just like every other Western team) will travel to Anchorage every year. We will play Fairbanks every year, with every other year it being in Fairbanks. That adds up to every other year, not every four. Also, I don't like the idea of having divisions, just do like the WCHA, everybody gets a partner (who the hell would we ever pair Anchorage with?) they play 4 games yearly, then the rest you play half four times, half twice, so you get to host each team 3 out of 4 years you get the opportunity to road trip to all your non partner's cities 3 out of 4 years.

And for the record, I don't like the whole idea. I don't like splitting an autobid, and I don't like the fact that the ONE positive that could come out of all this anarchy is that _untsville should get a home, so leaving them out is NOT acceptable in my book. Have the WCHA get to 8, poach from AHA and give _untsville a spot in the CCHA, AHA, EZAC, Big Ten, I don't care where, just get them in a conference.

JF_Gophers
08-04-2011, 12:43 PM
Hahah that would be funny. Big Ten takes Huntsville but won't take Notre Dame. :D

FlagDUDE08
08-04-2011, 12:45 PM
Hahah that would be funny. Big Ten takes Huntsville but won't take Notre Dame. :D

Nah, give them to the NCHC. With 6 teams, plus Western Michigan, they go up to 8. They need a cupcake in that league, anyway. ;)