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Red Robin
07-28-2011, 08:34 AM
That's a bunch of poy and you know it. Get a friggin program and you wouldn't have to run around like chicken little and lay blame.

The same thing just happened to Miami, UND, etc. It's happening to US COLLEGE HOCKEY.

You can't legislate against unethical behavior and poaching. USA Hockey, CHL, NHL all seek the same end game-
get the talent in their system at any cost or by any tactic. Gibson isn't clean on this, either- he played his hand real well and Michigan got screwed with
two months left before the pre-season practices start. It doesn't help that college hockey is riding in an rudderless ship right now, too.

Yeah this sucks :(
but as this post states http://thecollegehockeyblog.com/2011/07/27/preseason-top-16-16-michigan/
good thing we have Shawn coming back between the pipes.

Also as the college hockey blog points out we have Zach Hyman to look forward to and on D Brennan Serville.

But ranking us #16 is too low IMO.

Lord of the Rinks
08-01-2011, 08:42 PM
Just a reminder that the alumni game is this Friday, August 5. That means we're already more than half way through the off-season.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new scoreboard in action for the first time.

JoeZ
08-02-2011, 04:36 PM
I'm fine with Hunwick between the pipes this year but I am getting real nervous about next year.
Like mentioned earlier this is two years in a row. Also don't forget about Bacasishua (sp?) though that was several years ago.

On a different note - I just renewed my season tickets - $525 each this year +$10 processing, $1060 total. For those who don't know where I sit those are right on the blue line.

FRICKER
08-03-2011, 03:19 AM
Big Papa.....there are several reasons why the Wolverines attract top blue chip recruits. Among them are:
1. Having an icon Head Coach in Red Beranson
2. Having seasoned veteran assistants (until Mel Pearson left for Michigan Tech) in Mel Pearson & Billy Powers.
3. Proximity to the USA Development Program also in Ann Arbor
4. Recruiting a year ahead for the very best student/atheletes. They use "bird dogs" to legally communicate with the chosen ones they are interested in and have them contact the program so they can talk to them and get a commitment. It's a win-win deal as the recrit can enjoy their Junior & Senior years without going through the recruiting wars and Michigan skims the creme de la creme from the Junior class while most of the rest are focused on Seniors.
5. This all combines into recriting momentum that's a real juggernaut!!!!

bigmrg74
08-03-2011, 10:25 AM
That's a bunch of poy and you know it. Get a friggin program and you wouldn't have to run around like chicken little and lay blame.

The same thing just happened to Miami, UND, etc. It's happening to US COLLEGE HOCKEY.

You can't legislate against unethical behavior and poaching. USA Hockey, CHL, NHL all seek the same end game-
get the talent in their system at any cost or by any tactic. Gibson isn't clean on this, either- he played his hand real well and Michigan got screwed with
two months left before the pre-season practices start. It doesn't help that college hockey is riding in an rudderless ship right now, too.I think he was refering more towards the Big Ten schools leaving the CCHA and WCHA to form the BTHC. Did Michigan really have a choice once the die was cast? Nope, but Michigan didn't do a whole lot else to stop em from setting up the mold either.

Red Robin
08-05-2011, 07:19 AM
I cant wait to see the new scoreboard in action tonight.

streaker
08-05-2011, 08:56 AM
I think he was refering more towards the Big Ten schools leaving the CCHA and WCHA to form the BTHC. Did Michigan really have a choice once the die was cast? Nope, but Michigan didn't do a whole lot else to stop em from setting up the mold either.

I don't completely buy that, either. TBTC is an established major athletic conference- it only makes sense that once a sixth BTC hockey team is established, that they would take advantage of the riches a sanctioned hockey league would bring. It's not like this was unexpected, nor a surprise.

The reaction by certain WCHA teams, though, is a bit puzzling. The "super conference" consists of small time programs (in other athletics) in comparison to the Big Ten schools. It is simply a money grab on their part and an attempt to shed the bottom feeders in their league in order to compete with an even tougher schedule so they could still be a major player in the NCAA hockey tournament- whatever that may shape up to be. If anything, fans from the programs left holding the bag should vent their spleens at those teams-sans Miami- which destroyed what was still going to be a perfectly competitive conference.

AND, as I tried to point out- Michigan Tech hasn't been a relevant program since the early 1980's. Whose fault is that? Why has other like sized schools had better success than they since that time? Why wasn't there more urgency to demand that their hockey program should have had more investment by the school? Why is it that programs like UNO- 11 years at D1- has been more progressive and forward thinking about their athletics than a former NCAA power and member of the elitist WCHA? Bemidji State? How is the forming of the BTHC suddenly responsible for all of this, as if MTU wasn't already on life support? THAT was my subtle point.

BUT, aside from that, the karma factor when it comes to recruits bolting two months before the season can't be attributed to that separate issue- it's just sour grapes from a fanbase that is eager to blame anyone for the demise of their program or conference. It can be attributed to NHL teams like Anaheim or LA directing their draftees to the CHL in order to develop them in the manner they think is best. Certainly the 17-18 year old can say no and choose his own path, but $$ talks and the leverage used by the CHL and theNHL is broad. It doesn't serve the character image of the former recruit much, and it's business as usual for the pro teams.

sqeyes
08-05-2011, 07:57 PM
Speaking of Hunwick.... Nice article on him...
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/ncaa_player_profile_shawn_hunwick/

FadeToBlack&Gold
08-05-2011, 08:08 PM
it's just sour grapes from a fanbase that is eager to blame anyone for the demise of their program or conference.

Don't go lumping all of us into that category, please.

Red Robin
08-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Speaking of Hunwick.... Nice article on him...
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/ncaa_player_profile_shawn_hunwick/

Yes great article on Shawn, He is an awesome goalie.
Can't wait until the home opener, heck, even exhibition games will be great.

UMBand
08-06-2011, 12:47 AM
First impression from the Alumni Game today: That scoreboard... There's big, and there's too big. This is the latter. The graphic they were using after goals was lmost blinding the thing was so **** bright. Whole thing just dwarfs the crap out of everything else in the old barn.

streaker
08-06-2011, 08:33 AM
Don't go lumping all of us into that category, please.

Okay... from a large segment of a certain fanbase. Is that better? (Clue: I also said conference, too.)

FadeToBlack&Gold
08-06-2011, 05:41 PM
Okay... from a large segment of a certain fanbase.

We'll agree to disagree. :) SG, bb_dl, and whoever 'Huskiefan906' is, do not represent a majority of Tech fans (though it may seem like it lately).

Yes, there are too many current WCHA-ers with a superiority complex. That will likely switch to the NCHC in a few years' time.

Big Papa
08-06-2011, 09:44 PM
Inch ranks Michigan #10, IMO Michigan will have a huge year. Could the Wolverines win the CCHA again? Me thinks Yes.

streaker
08-08-2011, 08:24 AM
We'll agree to disagree. :) SG, bb_dl, and whoever 'Huskiefan906' is, do not represent a majority of Tech fans (though it may seem like it lately).

Yes, there are too many current WCHA-ers with a superiority complex. That will likely switch to the NCHC in a few years' time.

I have nothing against the MTU fans I have met in recent years... and work with many as well. But, the "let's blame the CCHA for UAH" and "let's blame TBTHC for the demise of small programs in college hockey" banter is over the top and tends to stretch my tolerance- regardless of the poster affiliation, especially after the super six stunt recently pulled.

bigmrg74
08-08-2011, 10:34 AM
I have nothing against the MTU fans I have met in recent years... and work with many as well. But, the "let's blame the CCHA for UAH" and "let's blame TBTHC for the demise of small programs in college hockey" banter is over the top and tends to stretch my tolerance- regardless of the poster affiliation, especially after the super six stunt recently pulled.True, its been my feelings that some of the smaller schools rely too much on that extra bounce they get from the weekends where Michigan or the other big schools come to town. Doesn't that mean that there's a lot of other weekends out there where there's seats that need to be filled? Personally, I do feel that a lot of the smaller schools out there have needed to take a more Militant mentality about building up their own brands instead of just relying on the bigger schools coming in for those big weekends.

And personally, I would think it would cheese me off as a fan of a smaller school to see my student section with a lot of Walmart Wolverines in it the weekends when Michigan does come to town. I'm not saying that those kids can't be True Blue Michigan football fans during the fall, which is where most of that comes from. But during the hockey season, they should be in their schools colors, and chanting clever taunts about Michigan. Thats just my opinion about it anyways.

Red Robin
08-10-2011, 10:09 PM
Any updates on the ohip state outdoor game?

JoeZ
08-11-2011, 10:06 AM
Any updates on the ohip state outdoor game?

Jason Paul posted on his Facebook page that there is apress conferrence scheduled for 2:00 today and streamed at: http://www.indians.com/

kdilks
08-11-2011, 02:04 PM
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110811&content_id=23071324&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle

giwan
08-11-2011, 02:29 PM
Any updates on the ohip state outdoor game?

http://www.freep.com/article/20110811/SPORTS06/110811035/U-M-vs-OSU-outdoor-hockey-game-dubbed-Frozen-Diamond-Faceoff-