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FadeToBlack&Gold
07-14-2011, 06:56 PM
A week after doomsday, and the program hasn't folded yet. Time to focus on the final two years of the traditional WCHA.

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MTUHuskies
07-14-2011, 07:04 PM
Steady progress for two years under Mel and then take home the first NCAA Autobid of the Post-defection WCHA in 2013-14.

manurespreader
07-14-2011, 09:06 PM
To respond to a question from the last thread about mr Mcleod. It was posted on another thread the he was instrumental in the rift between teams in the WCHA and if this post is even half true, his leadership ability is suspect.We need someone who is not confrontational in this job. Mr Mcleod is not that person imho.

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-14-2011, 09:11 PM
I don't think McLeod could've prevented this, however I also believe that he did almost nothing to prevent it, and I suspect that he may have accelerated it.

aparch
07-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Whoa. Wait a minute. You're not selling me too well on the benefits of re-joining the WCHA. :p

manurespreader
07-14-2011, 09:13 PM
I don't think McLeod could've prevented this, however I also believe that he did almost nothing to prevent it, and I suspect that he may have accelerated it.
If he didn't know he's incompetent. If he is at fault as the other poster contends, and if indeed he went off on certain now gone WCHa members as is alleged, he is incompetent also, either way, he is not the guy for the future.

Huskiefan906
07-14-2011, 09:16 PM
Isn't it doubtful that Western will be admitted to the NCHC.

Should the WCHA accept them.

Tech
BSU
MSU
UAA
NMU
St.C
LSSU
WMU
FSU
Alaska

This would be good for college hockey so long as BGSU/UAH can find a home.

JohnsonsJerseys
07-14-2011, 09:32 PM
Well if you are going to bring in all those CCHA teams, why not just rename the conference CHA with Western and Central divisions? NMU jumps to the Western division, UAH joins the Central division and everyone else just keeps on keeping on...

Ryan J

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-14-2011, 09:34 PM
I would love to have Western if the Times New Roman Conference doesn't take them, but I think the MN schools would have the same reservations about adding them as they would LSSU. I have a feeling that the non-AK schools are looking to make the rest of the WCHA as much of a bus league as possible, and while busing to the Soo and KZoo is feasible, it's not ideal from Bemdiji, St. Cloud, and Mankato's point of view.

Painted_Bandit
07-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Well if you are going to bring in all those CCHA teams, why not just rename the conference CHA with Western and Central divisions? NMU jumps to the Western division, UAH joins the Central division and everyone else just keeps on keeping on...

Ryan J

Then are you are better off having 2 separate conferences to maximize the auto-bids but have a scheduling agreement too

Biddco
07-14-2011, 09:40 PM
Well if you are going to bring in all those CCHA teams, why not just rename the conference CHA with Western and Central divisions? NMU jumps to the Western division, UAH joins the Central division and everyone else just keeps on keeping on...

Ryan J

Because it would be for the good of college hockey, not a selfish decision right?

manurespreader
07-14-2011, 09:45 PM
Then are you are better off having 2 separate conferences to maximize the auto-bids but have a scheduling agreement too
I think you are yes. I think college hockey is too, because it is possible that schools like BGSU, etc, might keep hockey around if they can logically do so.. But there have been a number of hints of domino's. We'll see.

MinnesotaNorthStar
07-14-2011, 09:48 PM
Because it would be for the good of college hockey, not a selfish decision right?
They would be forced to do it, much like we forced you guys to join our shiny new conference. Try to keep up.

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-14-2011, 10:49 PM
But there have been a number of hints of domino's. We'll see.

Yes, there are certainly more moves to be made in this hand of Texas Hold 'Em. At this point, we're still placing bets before the turn card.

bronconick
07-14-2011, 11:32 PM
As far as the title of the thread says, I don't see why not. Look what we did in a year and we were basically the CCHA's whipping boy from 2004ish on.

What conference Western ends up in? I'm personally torn on all options. If they got invited with Notre Dame to the NCHC, they have to take it but it's an almost definite return to scratching and clawing to stay out of the basement in the short to medium term. Other options are likely going to require a robust non-conference schedule both for pairwise considerations and to keep fan interest up. I know St. Cloud's been to more tournaments in the last 10 years than WMU has in 30, but the guy I work with who occasionally picks up tickets likely doesn't. Alternately, there's also getting the downtown arena built and selling enough booze that the fans no longer care that it seems to be a lot of Mercyhurst and Canisius visiting.

bigmrg74
07-14-2011, 11:37 PM
Then are you are better off having 2 separate conferences to maximize the auto-bids but have a scheduling agreement too
That seems to be the ideal outcome in this one big honking cluster****. At least then you'll have stable leagues for everybody, a x number of non-conference games already figured out, but with room to accept a few paying gigs at other schools. and it would allow us to break up the alaska schools as well. in a 10 or 12 team league with both of them in it, somebody would have to play both of those schools up there the same season. Its either 2 long round trips, or one long trip with at least missing a week up there. Plus, having that extra autobid between the have-nots from the powers schools will just stick it to them come NCAA time.

bigmrg74
07-15-2011, 12:00 AM
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For those of you that didn't get it in the last thread.

Lakerblue
07-15-2011, 10:06 AM
I just hope Tech brings my Lakers with you, wherever you go.

Personally, maybe Tech should take an even greater lead, and instead of worrying about Mankato and SCSU, perhaps a larger vision should be in place. Obviously, I believe NMU, Tech, and LSSU should all be one conference. I believe BSU should also be in that conference. Add two Alaska schools, and now the tables are turned -- SCSU and MSU-Mankato have to come to HOUGHTON to cut their deal, instead of Tech (as the leader of the UP schools) trying to fit an assortment of round pegs into square holes. I think the UP and Alaska schools hold a much better hand than they might realize. Instead of worrying about the bus trips the Minnesota schools have to take, I propose a scenario wherein the Minnesota schools are HAPPY to make those bus trips in the interest of their own survival. Why should the UP and Alaska schools be held hostage because two middling Minnesota programs are worried about bus time? Seriously.

davyd83
07-15-2011, 10:12 AM
I just hope Tech brings my Lakers with you, wherever you go.

Personally, maybe Tech should take an even greater lead, and instead of worrying about Mankato and SCSU, perhaps a larger vision should be in place. Obviously, I believe NMU, Tech, and LSSU should all be one conference. I believe BSU should also be in that conference. Add two Alaska schools, and now the tables are turned -- SCSU and MSU-Mankato have to come to HOUGHTON to cut their deal, instead of Tech (as the leader of the UP schools) trying to fit an assortment of round pegs into square holes. I think the UP and Alaska schools hold a much better hand than they might realize. Instead of worrying about the bus trips the Minnesota schools have to take, I propose a scenario wherein the Minnesota schools are HAPPY to make those bus trips in the interest of their own survival. Why should the UP and Alaska schools be held hostage because two middling Minnesota programs are worried about bus time? Seriously.

Maybe the Minnesota schools are no more excited about the 2 travel day trip to the Soo than LSSU would be to go to Buffalo (Niagara), Erie, PA (Mercyhurst) or Huntsville. I'm not sure how anyone is being held hostage. Tech has been a long standing member of the WCHA and NMU voluntarily applied for membership. There's no hostage situation there at all. How are the Alaska schools being held hostage?

bigblue_dl
07-15-2011, 10:16 AM
I just hope Tech brings my Lakers with you, wherever you go.

Personally, maybe Tech should take an even greater lead, and instead of worrying about Mankato and SCSU, perhaps a larger vision should be in place. Obviously, I believe NMU, Tech, and LSSU should all be one conference. I believe BSU should also be in that conference. Add two Alaska schools, and now the tables are turned -- SCSU and MSU-Mankato have to come to HOUGHTON to cut their deal, instead of Tech (as the leader of the UP schools) trying to fit an assortment of round pegs into square holes. I think the UP and Alaska schools hold a much better hand than they might realize. Instead of worrying about the bus trips the Minnesota schools have to take, I propose a scenario wherein the Minnesota schools are HAPPY to make those bus trips in the interest of their own survival. Why should the UP and Alaska schools be held hostage because two middling Minnesota programs are worried about bus time? Seriously.
Maybe Tech has a little more loyalty to conference members than the backstabbers that left?