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FRICKER
07-10-2011, 04:30 PM
With Miami leaving the CCHA on the heals of the announcement of the Big Ten conference, what will become of the "leftovers"??? Maybe it's time for stuggling D1 schools like Lake State to consider DIII where they can be competitive. Yes, I know that it's a tough pill to swallow for the proud Laker fans, but given today's economy, the recent decade of frustrating seasons, and the continuing difficulty of attracting blue chippers to the Soo, it could be the best decision.

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-10-2011, 04:37 PM
Maybe you guys should wait until we see what the CCHA and WCHA remnants can work out between them.

Also, Lake State is D2 in all other sports right? Rules say that you could play a D3 schedule, but wouldn't be eligible to win D3 hardware, which makes D3 pointless. Some Houghton locals have tried to argue this regarding Tech before.

Hammer
07-10-2011, 04:44 PM
Like FM said, a D-2 school playing D-3 is a really bad idea. Ask Crookston how well that worked.

Draighlicht
07-10-2011, 04:45 PM
Good question.

If WMU does not move to the soon to be league and assuming Notre Dame does that would still leave six teams in the CCHA. Robert Morris and Niagara have expressed interest in going to a full compliment of scholarships and Alabama Huntsville needs a league.

More likely would be some combination of the five teams from the WCHA and the remaining teams from the CCHA - and then maybe add some or all of the three schools mentioned above.

Lots of questions and very few answers right now.

davyd83
07-10-2011, 04:51 PM
One of two scenarios is likely. Either the two leagues will merge, or the WCHA will attempt to entice NMU and possibly Alaska and/or Lake Superior. That would leave the CCHA to go after schools like Mercyhurst, Niagara, Robert Morris, and a very grateful Huntsville.

ScoobyDoo
07-10-2011, 05:29 PM
Death.

ecbrevik
07-10-2011, 05:32 PM
Death.
Scooby, always available to offer a cheery outlook. :p :D

pinch
07-10-2011, 05:59 PM
I would look to reach some new multi lg agreements. Lets assume WMU is gone.. and lets guess NMU wants to go west..if so I would try and get to 6 teams with UAF, FSU, LSSU, BGSU,RMU,Mercyh, take my auto bid ship UAH to some new found Atlantic conf with schools that are ok with scholly play Af, Army, Canisius, Niag, (maybe RIT even though they dont have any). The Alaska schools are split up, and UAH is also not in with either---the travel burdens of these leagues are spread out.

At the same time, if I were the Ivys, I think I want my auto bid, so I split from the ECAC... which then opens up more shuffling fro the remaining AH and ECAC schools.

If ND gores east them WMU remains in the new CCHA, Mercy goes back to the new AH, and RIT goes back with the other light schollys.

Lebron23
07-10-2011, 06:17 PM
With Miami leaving the CCHA on the heals of the announcement of the Big Ten conference, what will become of the "leftovers"??? Maybe it's time for stuggling D1 schools like Lake State to consider DIII where they can be competitive. Yes, I know that it's a tough pill to swallow for the proud Laker fans, but given today's economy, the recent decade of frustrating seasons, and the continuing difficulty of attracting blue chippers to the Soo, it could be the best decision.


Not sure why LSSU would have to go D-III when, i assume, they would form a new conference with Michigan schools Ferris State, Northern Michigan, Western Michigan, and possibly Michigan Tech. Throw in Bowling Green, you have a 6-team conference, and would cut down on their current travel costs by quite a bit.

Huskiefan906
07-10-2011, 07:22 PM
For the leftovers sake, they need to keep two leagues, CCHA and WCHA to keep two autobids. With the SOS hits that both conferences are going to take, only the league champion may make the NCAAs. If the WCHA and CCHA merge the ones that started this problem gain even more with only one autobid for the smaller schools.

I hope it shakes down in this manner, but who knows what impact Notre Dame's decision will have:

CCHA
Alaska
Ferris State
Bowling Green
Western Michigan*
Mercyhurst
Alabama Huntsville
Robert Morris
Niagara

WCHA
Minnesota State
Michigan Tech
Bemidji State
St. Cloud
Alaska Anchorage
Northern Michigan
Lake Superior State

fangers
07-10-2011, 07:36 PM
For the leftovers sake, they need to keep two leagues, CCHA and WCHA to keep two autobids. With the SOS hits that both conferences are going to take, only the league champion may make the NCAAs. If the WCHA and CCHA merge the ones that started this problem gain even more with only one autobid for the smaller schools.

I hope it shakes down in this manner, but who knows what impact Notre Dame's decision will have:

CCHA
Alaska
Ferris State
Bowling Green
Western Michigan*
Mercyhurst
Alabama Huntsville
Robert Morris
Niagara

WCHA
Minnesota State
Michigan Tech
Bemidji State
St. Cloud
Alaska Anchorage
Northern Michigan
Lake Superior State

Makes sense, like it.

komey1
07-10-2011, 08:34 PM
I have word that RIT would not go to a CCHA.

FlagDUDE08
07-10-2011, 09:05 PM
I would look to reach some new multi lg agreements. Lets assume WMU is gone.. and lets guess NMU wants to go west..if so I would try and get to 6 teams with UAF, FSU, LSSU, BGSU,RMU,Mercyh, take my auto bid ship UAH to some new found Atlantic conf with schools that are ok with scholly play Af, Army, Canisius, Niag, (maybe RIT even though they dont have any). The Alaska schools are split up, and UAH is also not in with either---the travel burdens of these leagues are spread out.

At the same time, if I were the Ivys, I think I want my auto bid, so I split from the ECAC... which then opens up more shuffling fro the remaining AH and ECAC schools.

If ND gores east them WMU remains in the new CCHA, Mercy goes back to the new AH, and RIT goes back with the other light schollys.

Ivies already get the autobid from the ECAC most of the time. They have no reason to split off.

bronconick
07-10-2011, 09:55 PM
I have word that RIT would not go to a CCHA.

RIT can't give out scholarships, IIRC, so there's no reason why they'd ever leave Atlantic Hockey. Right?

CHFAN222
07-10-2011, 10:18 PM
RIT can't give out scholarships, IIRC, so there's no reason why they'd ever leave Atlantic Hockey. Right?

RIT is not allowed to give out scholarships. The only way they could do that is if their athletic department decided to upgrade their program. In the meantime though what reason would they have to leave Atlantic hockey? They are a top dog in it and even get the conference tourney hosted in Rochester so no reason for them to switch affiliations.

Also there is no way Army and Air Force would leave it either. Army loves the short distance between opponents and Air Force loves having Army in their conference. The only way they would leave is if Navy started a program and couldn't get a spot in Atlantic Hockey. Although let's be honest if Navy started a team Atlantic Hockey would make room for them for that very reason.

darker98
07-10-2011, 11:22 PM
It's my belief that the new conference won't stay at 6 teams. If WMU doesn't come over, then Tech will be invited.. That's just me.

ecbrevik
07-10-2011, 11:30 PM
It's my belief that the new conference won't stay at 6 teams. If WMU doesn't come over, then Tech will be invited.. That's just me.
What is your reasoning for thinking Tech, as opposed to one of the Minnesota schools? For example, SCSU or Mankato would be easier to get to for travel purposes (flights into MSP for the farther teams) and are closer to the "core" of the conference.

Tech fans, I'm not blasting darker's mention of Tech, I'm just interested in his reasoning.

davyd83
07-10-2011, 11:30 PM
For the leftovers sake, they need to keep two leagues, CCHA and WCHA to keep two autobids. With the SOS hits that both conferences are going to take, only the league champion may make the NCAAs. If the WCHA and CCHA merge the ones that started this problem gain even more with only one autobid for the smaller schools.

I hope it shakes down in this manner, but who knows what impact Notre Dame's decision will have:

CCHA
Alaska
Ferris State
Bowling Green
Western Michigan*
Mercyhurst
Alabama Huntsville
Robert Morris
Niagara

WCHA
Minnesota State
Michigan Tech
Bemidji State
St. Cloud
Alaska Anchorage
Northern Michigan
Lake Superior State

This is one that I really like.

darker98
07-10-2011, 11:40 PM
Proximity to the others. That's all.
Notre Dame and Miami.

PenaltyBoxBeast
07-10-2011, 11:45 PM
What is your reasoning for thinking Tech, as opposed to one of the Minnesota schools? For example, SCSU or Mankato would be easier to get to for travel purposes (flights into MSP for the farther teams) and are closer to the "core" of the conference.

Tech fans, I'm not blasting darker's mention of Tech, I'm just interested in his reasoning.

The MacNaughton Cup belongs to Tech; so whatever league they are in, that league will have the most grand trophy in college sports. It is feasible that the new league will want to have that trophy as the ultimate prize...