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dggoddard
06-16-2011, 02:40 PM
The real story is one of the Denver (or is it Metro State?) player's father confronted Swami face-to-face regarding Swami's negative post's on the board and the two had a heated exchange due to the father blaming Swami for the lack of success the team had this past season. My sources have provided a minute by minute account of that confrontation but details will not be posted here. A lot of drama going on at Metro State (or is it Denver State?) right now!This is absolutely not true in any way shape or form.

dggoddard
06-16-2011, 02:42 PM
I believe he also re-aggrivated the injury at a camp up in Canada.I'm pretty sure this is also not true. DU Law School will be good for you. :-)

Fighting Sioux 23
06-16-2011, 03:03 PM
I'm pretty sure this is also not true. DU Law School will be good for you. :-)

I would agree as well. My brother went to law school there about 10 years ago, and he had very positive things to say (he also has his undergrad degree from UND).

As for the story about the re-aggrivated injury, it came from Chambers' article in the print version of the Post. It would not be surprising to me in the least if Chambers was lying again. :p:D:D

ronmexico
06-16-2011, 03:41 PM
This is absolutely not true in any way shape or form.

Thank you Mr. Obvious.

Garibaldi83
06-17-2011, 04:49 PM
It's totally a bummer that Sam will be out for most of the year. I suggest they red shirt him and if he does heal in time and we need him then they can revoke the red shirt.

I honestly think Murray will rock and suprise a lot of the nay sayers......

SCSU Euro
06-17-2011, 05:01 PM
I think Murray will be pretty good too, but I'm not as sure about redshirting Sam. There was no guarantee he was gonna stay for 4 years already, now in order for the redshirt to be worthy, you'd be asking him to stay around 5. I'm just curious if that's likely.

Chris
06-18-2011, 01:08 AM
I think Murray will be pretty good too, but I'm not as sure about redshirting Sam. There was no guarantee he was gonna stay for 4 years already, now in order for the redshirt to be worthy, you'd be asking him to stay around 5. I'm just curious if that's likely.

Well, by redshirting Sam for this upcoming year, an injury hardship waiver can be granted and give DU some extra scholarship leverage incase Murray does not work out as a full time starter. It all depends on how much confidence there really is in Murray within the program and how realistic it is for Sam to come back at all during next season. If it were me, I would bring in the highest-end recruit I could and see who pans out, then hopefully have Sam come back the next year and weigh my options between Murray and "the highest-end recruit I could get" before determining what happens next.

leswp1
06-18-2011, 08:32 AM
Happy Birthday dggoddard!!

SCSU Euro
06-18-2011, 12:28 PM
Well, by redshirting Sam for this upcoming year, an injury hardship waiver can be granted and give DU some extra scholarship leverage incase Murray does not work out as a full time starter. It all depends on how much confidence there really is in Murray within the program and how realistic it is for Sam to come back at all during next season. If it were me, I would bring in the highest-end recruit I could and see who pans out, then hopefully have Sam come back the next year and weigh my options between Murray and "the highest-end recruit I could get" before determining what happens next.

Works on paper, but some top end recruits might be scared off. Yes, Denver's a good program, but not only come in and have to fight a talented guy in Murray, but then at the end of the year or next year have to battle a probably more talented guy in Brittain? A very good goalie could end up third in that rotation a year from now.

Chris
06-18-2011, 03:08 PM
Works on paper, but some top end recruits might be scared off. Yes, Denver's a good program, but not only come in and have to fight a talented guy in Murray, but then at the end of the year or next year have to battle a probably more talented guy in Brittain? A very good goalie could end up third in that rotation a year from now.

Personally, I'm just looking at it as "what happens if Murray gets hurt?". If Murray does get hurt, then DU would have to go with some random walk-on and probably who ever played goalie the most recently in their lives as the backup...scary thought. Gotta cover yourself for all possibilities but, yeah, it won't be the easiest sell to a young kid with big hopes and dreams...Gwoz will have to come up with something pretty creative. Sam's injury is quite possibly the biggest blow to the program I have ever seen...

Old Pio
06-18-2011, 04:32 PM
Personally, I'm just looking at it as "what happens if Murray gets hurt?". If Murray does get hurt, then DU would have to go with some random walk-on and probably who ever played goalie the most recently in their lives as the backup...scary thought. Gotta cover yourself for all possibilities but, yeah, it won't be the easiest sell to a young kid with big hopes and dreams...Gwoz will have to come up with something pretty creative. Sam's injury is quite possibly the biggest blow to the program I have ever seen...

And the way this thing worked out is crushing. An injury sustained last season, to the guy we all thought could be dominant at his position this year. Effectively a season ending injury. In June! GD it. I think Adam will rise to the occasion, but you're right, we need someone to back him up and that's going to be problematic.

SCSU Euro
06-18-2011, 04:59 PM
Personally, I'm just looking at it as "what happens if Murray gets hurt?". If Murray does get hurt, then DU would have to go with some random walk-on and probably who ever played goalie the most recently in their lives as the backup...scary thought. Gotta cover yourself for all possibilities but, yeah, it won't be the easiest sell to a young kid with big hopes and dreams...Gwoz will have to come up with something pretty creative. Sam's injury is quite possibly the biggest blow to the program I have ever seen...

Over Chevy leaving early?

Chris
06-18-2011, 05:16 PM
Over Chevy leaving early?

Chevy leaving early allowed Brittain to come in a year early...didn't really lose much there. If we didn't have Brittain waiting in the wings, then (yes) losing Chevy early would have been pretty devastating...

vizoroo
06-18-2011, 07:26 PM
The NHL draft is next week and here are 2 more opinions on the future of Nick Shore, Scott Mayfield and Zac Larraza.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2011
2nd round #31 Mayfield (Edmonton) A long term project that many teams are interested in due to his great size, puck skills, skating, and shades of snarl. Already has shown some good carrying skills, and an accurate first pass. He is also capable of springing teammates on the long pass to the opposing blue line. Although far from ready to play against faster players, he is an agile big man that will get consideration early.

2nd #59 N. Shore (San Jose) Scorer with an accurate shot that he needs little room to launch.

4th #92 Larraza (Avs) Arizona-born long term forward project. Has enough skill to finish and has size. An effective fore-checker. His time with the Pioneers will be spent honing his positioning, hockey IQ, and offensive decision-making.

Hockey Buzz
http://ohlinsider.com/consensus.html
1st round-#27 Scott Mayfield
2nd-#60 Nick Shore
4th-#118 Zac Larraza

SCSU Euro
06-18-2011, 08:14 PM
Chevy leaving early allowed Brittain to come in a year early...didn't really lose much there. If we didn't have Brittain waiting in the wings, then (yes) losing Chevy early would have been pretty devastating...

Brittain's pretty good, and maybe he gets there, but he is certainly not nearly as good as Chevy

dggoddard
06-20-2011, 01:10 PM
Well, by redshirting Sam for this upcoming year, an injury hardship waiver can be granted and give DU some extra scholarship leverage incase Murray does not work out as a full time starter. It all depends on how much confidence there really is in Murray within the program and how realistic it is for Sam to come back at all during next season. If it were me, I would bring in the highest-end recruit I could and see who pans out, then hopefully have Sam come back the next year and weigh my options between Murray and "the highest-end recruit I could get" before determining what happens next.There is no team in college hockey that can afford to tie up three scholarships (out of just 18) in the goaltender position. Sure you "might" get a hardship waiver for the NCAA for one season and then again the NCAA might not give it to you. Then you potentially would have three scholie goaltenders next season unless you cut a guy loose or Sam went pro early.

Clearly they are working hard to find a 3rd goalie, but almost certainly they will roll the dice with Murray and if he gets hurt before Sam gets back that's tough luck. Plenty of teams have played entire seasons with only one scholarship goalie on the roster. DU in 2008-09 and Michigan used to do it all the time.

The scholarship limits and guys leaving early are easily the two biggest hurdles to planning for the future. With Drew Shore & Jason Zucker almost certainly gone after this season, DU is going to bank on Sam coming back and making a late season run.

vizoroo
06-21-2011, 03:14 PM
Here's some info on Zac Larraza,projected 4th round pick in NHL draft.

You can watch his VO2 test--8+ minutes of pedaling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aoe3GamtOc

Long article at SB Nation's New Jersey Devils blog
http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/5/27/2188702/zac-larraza-2011-nhl-entry-draft-prospect-profile

BigBossMan
06-21-2011, 03:48 PM
The real story is one of the Denver (or is it Metro State?) player's father confronted Swami face-to-face regarding Swami's negative post's on the board and the two had a heated exchange due to the father blaming Swami for the lack of success the team had this past season. My sources have provided a minute by minute account of that confrontation but details will not be posted here. A lot of drama going on at Metro State (or is it Denver State?) right now!

There is a post on DG's Blog that Swami had a run in last season with the Cook/Rycroft family.

CCtig
06-21-2011, 06:18 PM
There is a post on DG's Blog that Swami had a run in last season with the Cook/Rycroft family.

Oh Swami (real name Tom) had a "run in" all right!! And my buddy DG knows that as much as I do! But Metro State fans (or is Met State?) deny, deny, deny. Sad part is, Swami and I get along great when we hang together, he is a super good person!!

vizoroo
06-21-2011, 08:01 PM
Story on the Nhl draft rankings has 3 goalies unsigned. Wonder whether Gwoz has been in contact?

Oh, Josiah Didier ranked at 108 for skaters. Hadn't noticed his ranking before.