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FadeToBlack&Gold
07-13-2011, 07:28 PM
I do hope that Tech, and eventually NMU, will push hard to include you guys, but there are three MN schools and potentially two AK schools in any such debate.

Bill
07-13-2011, 07:28 PM
The U.S. 2 schools need to set themselves up as a solid block, and allow gravity to bring schools into THEIR orbit, rather than limping around, hat in hand, like a wounded beggar asking for scraps. We are all better schools, and better programs, than every other remaining school.

Bring the Alaska schools into the mix, and you have a very nice, tight conference of Far Northern Schools:

LSSU
NMU
Tech
BSU
Fairbanks
UAA

Great rivalries. Great travel partners. All institutions similarly dedicated and funded.





For this grouping to be viable, we'd have to add St Cloud and Mankato into the mix. However there seems to be a feeling that the MN schools aren't interested in having the Lakers in the WCHA, which if true would put a damper on this unless they could be persuaded to change their minds.

Truth Squad
07-13-2011, 07:29 PM
There is no advantage for Notre Dame to rush to a decision. They write their own ticket.




I heard Frank Anzalone is one of the finalists for the assistant coach opening there.




You have some great ideas, but it sounds like the U.P. schools (NMU and MTU) have already committed.

When your little college is opening up the 2013 season at home against conference rival Bentley in front of 750 fans in the newly renovated Norris Center, after back-to-back last place finishes in the old CCHA we will see how many more shots you people up there want to take at the man that brought you glory, three championships, and your little village on the map.

The Truth Is Out There.....
TBA

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-13-2011, 07:31 PM
When your little college is opening up the 2013 season at home against conference rival Bentley in front of 750 fans in the newly renovated Norris Center, after back-to-back last place finishes in the old CCHA we will see how many more shots you people up there want to take at the man that brought you glory, three championships, and your little village on the map.

The Truth Is Out There.....
TBA

If you're going to troll these guys, at least use an AHA school that makes sense, you tool. :rolleyes:

LSSULaker889294
07-13-2011, 07:37 PM
I sure hope the WCHA doesn't kick us to the curb. I will be very upset at SCSU, MSUM and BSU if they put us on the death bed.

Bill
07-13-2011, 09:03 PM
As for the Laprade situation, bank on it. He's in.
Any idea of when we can expect a press release on this?

LSSULaker889294
07-13-2011, 09:45 PM
When your little college is opening up the 2013 season at home against conference rival Bentley in front of 750 fans in the newly renovated Norris Center, after back-to-back last place finishes in the old CCHA we will see how many more shots you people up there want to take at the man that brought you glory, three championships, and your little village on the map.

The Truth Is Out There.....
TBA

Yep and if Anzalone was still here, we would be going into the new conference and not be in danger of folding......NOT!

davyd83
07-13-2011, 10:24 PM
Yep and if Anzalone was still here, we would be going into the new conference and not be in danger of folding......NOT!

Actually you may be right. You could be joining Adrian and Finlandia in the MCHA.

3dognight
07-14-2011, 08:03 AM
Just read Pletchs interview on USCHO main board.........underwhelming.

Looks like he has conceded the CCHA to observer status in the changing landscape of college hockey.

UGH

laker_one
07-14-2011, 09:34 AM
A story in the Marquette Mining Journal (http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/564633.html) confirms NMU's move to the WCHA and includes this tidbit.

"According to Mining Journal sources, Lake Superior State is not in talks with the WCHA and most likely will not be following the Wildcats out west."

I'm trying to read between the lines on that. It could mean that the WCHA has absolutely no interest, but it almost sounds like LSSU isn't trying to get into the WCHA. I hope that's not true. It just seems obvious to me that the WCHA is the best place for us at this point.

Mogerfan
07-14-2011, 09:52 AM
I'm trying to read between the lines on that. It could mean that the WCHA has absolutely no interest, but it almost sounds like LSSU isn't trying to get into the WCHA. I hope that's not true. It just seems obvious to me that the WCHA is the best place for us at this point.

Under the circumstances, getting into a league with fellow UP schools and Bemidji would seem like an exciting fresh start for the program. Staying in the CCHA and trying to add teams from Atlantic Hockey seems like the beginning of the end.

I hope the administration is at least trying for WCHA membership.

geezer
07-14-2011, 10:02 AM
If there are not promising talks underway to add 3-5 teams to the CCHA, it makes no sense whatsoever for the WCHA remainders to dis LSSU. If it's Lake State that's not working for admission, they need to be slapped. If it's the WCHA giving them the cold shoulder, ditto. Send out your emails to ADs. Knock some heads together. This is a high risk situation for the 3 leftover teams, and the WCHA is the logical place for LSSU.

Pump It Up
07-14-2011, 10:09 AM
I sure hope the WCHA doesn't kick us to the curb. I will be very upset at SCSU, MSUM and BSU if they put us on the death bed.

You'd probably feel how we feel about UND and DU about now. As an SCSU fan, I would just assume keep the 6 we have/are about to have in NMU, MTU, BSU, MSUM, UAA, and SCSU. This is the best possible scenario for keeping the CCHA afloat with the 4 teams left, UAH, and 1 or 3 others from the AHA.

That said, I can see LSSU fans wanting to bolt from the CCHA immediately. If it came to a yes or no vote, I would hope the WCHA squads would take in both Fairbanks and Lake State for a nice 8 team conference.

Neil Diamond
07-14-2011, 10:12 AM
Any idea of when we can expect a press release on this?

Soon, just crossing T's and dotting the I's

Bronzebacks
07-14-2011, 10:21 AM
If there are not promising talks underway to add 3-5 teams to the CCHA, it makes no sense whatsoever for the WCHA remainders to dis LSSU. If it's Lake State that's not working for admission, they need to be slapped. If it's the WCHA giving them the cold shoulder, ditto. Send out your emails to ADs. Knock some heads together. This is a high risk situation for the 3 leftover teams, and the WCHA is the logical place for LSSU.

I think many of us are not against LSSU joing the WCHA. I recognize that travel costs and distance will be a challenge. However, I much rather see LSSU come into the WCHA than to see their demise on our watch.

There will be another shoe dropping here in the near future. There will likely be a domino effect that will cause realignment of the eastern schools as well. There will be a lot of different scenarios where teams could end up. Best of luck to all of us little guys in collge hockey. If we stay committed to our teams and encourage others to get involved and support our programs we can weather the storm. If the will is there, there will be a path to success.

Truth Squad
07-14-2011, 10:24 AM
A story in the Marquette Mining Journal (http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/564633.html) confirms NMU's move to the WCHA and includes this tidbit.

"According to Mining Journal sources, Lake Superior State is not in talks with the WCHA and most likely will not be following the Wildcats out west."

I'm trying to read between the lines on that. It could mean that the WCHA has absolutely no interest, but it almost sounds like LSSU isn't trying to get into the WCHA. I hope that's not true. It just seems obvious to me that the WCHA is the best place for us at this point.

Keep bashing Frank Anzalone if it makes you people feel better. I would be pretty upset right now as well to see three National Championship banners hanging from the rafters and where you might end up in a couple of years.

Much like the happenings on and off the ice the past six years, don't be surprised if nothing happens on this matter as well.

Adrian, Milwaukee School of Engineering, Suomi College, Wisconsin Stevens Point are all pretty close to Sault and I think would make great rivals in 2013-14.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

laker_one
07-14-2011, 10:25 AM
This is the best possible scenario for keeping the CCHA afloat with the 4 teams left, UAH, and 1 or 3 others from the AHA.


On paper, this looks like the only viable way to keep the CCHA afloat as a league, but I doubt LSSU and Ferris are viable as programs in a league like that. Maybe the program can finally start racking up some wins against weaker teams, but I'm not sure that would be enough to generate interest to bring out fans.

Of course, I'm letting myself speak for people in the Soo when I haven't lived in Michigan in 20 years and only get back to the UP a few times a year. I'm just thinking, if I were in town and the Lakers were playing UAH or Robert Morris, I might or might not go to the game. If I were in town and they were playing NMU, Tech, or even Bemidji, I would not miss the game.

Lakerblue
07-14-2011, 10:56 AM
Death to the CCHA.

It was a poorly run, poorly operated, and poorly planned league for the past 15 years. At this point, only LSSU and Ferris will be left standing, holding the bag for a crummy league that hated -- and I firmly believe "hate" is the proper term -- Ferris and LSSU (at least as the last 15 years have transpired).

Why LSSU would sit on its hands and think about any continued relationship with the CCHA as some western version of the AHA is pathetic. Perhaps this is more telling as to the institutional rot within the Althetic halls on campus -- lack of imagination, lack of desire, lack of vision?

Perhaps the WCHA schools don't want LSSU any more than the CCHA wanted LSSU? I don't know. I see NMU is proactively attempting to direct its attention west. I repeat my opnion that LSSU's future must be west. If LSSU continues to orient itself south and east, the program will be dead.

I guess in my opinion, any efforts by LSSU to remain, support, or prop-up the CCHA is wasted. The CCHA was a joke BEFORE half the teams left. Now its just a useless name, with no teams, no vision, no imagination, no proactive approach. And Fred Pletsch? Please -- this dude is Tom A's buddy. He will be comminucations director for Big Ten hockey in 2013. He is going to hold onto this job for two years to make sure UM and MSU collect money for playing at JLA and on Fox Sports Detroit. He is going to make sure that the last two years of the CCHA are as profitable as possible for the departing schools. Then he is going to lock up the office, move to the Big Ten, and that will be that.

Meanwhile, NMU will have entered actively in negotiations to form a new conference out West with Tech and the Alaska schools. And LSSU will be standing there with our pants around our ankles, thumb in our mouth, and begging Niagara and Robert Morris to join up with BGSU, Ferris, and LSSU to form a CHA Part II.

Death to the CCHA. If the CCHA lives, LSSU will die. Kill that worthless hunk of dung before the rotting corpse drags LSSU Hockey into the grave with it.

laker_one
07-14-2011, 11:07 AM
If the CCHA lives, LSSU will die.

Yep. That about sums it up.

lakersparty
07-14-2011, 11:16 AM
A story in the Marquette Mining Journal (http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/564633.html) confirms NMU's move to the WCHA and includes this tidbit.

"According to Mining Journal sources, Lake Superior State is not in talks with the WCHA and most likely will not be following the Wildcats out west."

I'm trying to read between the lines on that. It could mean that the WCHA has absolutely no interest, but it almost sounds like LSSU isn't trying to get into the WCHA. I hope that's not true. It just seems obvious to me that the WCHA is the best place for us at this point.

I was worried before but now when I read this, I am really worried and ready to prepare for the worst. I thought it was logical that MTU, NMU and LSSU would end up together.