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mnstate0fhockey
09-06-2012, 07:26 PM
I'm glad you didn't say his mom and dad are cousins, now if they were from Nodak I could see it.

Haha ... :)

Hammy
09-06-2012, 07:53 PM
The one nice thing they do have going is that Grant Besse can come in next year if they don't find a couple forwards on the market that they want for next fall. Remember that he's a more talented kid than Christian Horn from the same team that the Gophers are bringing in now (Horn is better defensively, and probably more ready for the college game but the point remains).

Horn is pretty much a walk on and Besse is getting a big scholly. Better hope he provides what you expect on the one end of the rink he plays because his price tag is a lot higher than a guy that has a better two way game.

Chuck Schwartz
09-06-2012, 08:31 PM
Horn is pretty much a walk on and Besse is getting a big scholly. Better hope he provides what you expect on the one end of the rink he plays because his price tag is a lot higher than a guy that has a better two way game.

We get it, you don't like Grant Besse.

Hammy
09-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Just find the comparison (and the commentary with it) funny given the disparity in scholarship being spent on each...

If anything, I'll be interested to see how Eaves impacts his game. Because he's not going to be able to get away with the floater act he does now with Eaves as his coach.

Chuck Schwartz
09-06-2012, 11:13 PM
Just find the comparison (and the commentary with it) funny given the disparity in scholarship being spent on each...

If anything, I'll be interested to see how Eaves impacts his game. Because he's not going to be able to get away with the floater act he does now with Eaves as his coach.

Was obviously simply pointing out that he's more talented than a kid from his own team that is coming into the WCHA two seasons before he's scheduled to arrive in Madison. And that if the UW staff felt he was ready after this year, that he would be another option for 2013 where UW still has needs up front.

Scholarship thing is pretty irrelevant considering Horn a local kid who grew up a gopher fan. He's not walking on to another school in the country. That's like Brad Navin who accepted an offer for 2013 when Ohio State offered him for 2011. Things changed later, but it's certainly not apples to apples to compare offers to a school a kid grew up following.

It really had nothing to do with Horn, was simply pointing out that I think the kid could easily be ready to come in for 2013 instead of 2014 like he's committed for.

Hammy
09-07-2012, 02:07 AM
Scholarship thing is pretty irrelevant considering Horn a local kid who grew up a gopher fan. He's not walking on to another school in the country.

The scholarship is the beauty of it. You pay much more in that comparison.

The other thing is Horn won't have to drastically change his style of play to be effective in college. Besse is definitely going to have to alter his game. Especially for a coach that is more systems oriented. He won't be able to float and freelance like he does now. If anything, that's the reason he should go to the USHL. Gonna need to learn there is actually ice below the circles of his team's defensive zone.

Chuck Schwartz
09-07-2012, 02:27 AM
The scholarship is the beauty of it. You pay much more in that comparison.

The other thing is Horn won't have to drastically change his style of play to be effective in college. Besse is definitely going to have to alter his game. Especially for a coach that is more systems oriented. He won't be able to float and freelance like he does now. If anything, that's the reason he should go to the USHL. Gonna need to learn there is actually ice below the circles of his team's defensive zone.

We're not even talking about the same thing. Just more rhetoric on your dislike for Besse.

solovsfett
09-07-2012, 08:05 AM
The scholarship is the beauty of it. You pay much more in that comparison.

The other thing is Horn won't have to drastically change his style of play to be effective in college. Besse is definitely going to have to alter his game. Especially for a coach that is more systems oriented. He won't be able to float and freelance like he does now. If anything, that's the reason he should go to the USHL. Gonna need to learn there is actually ice below the circles of his team's defensive zone.

Under Eaves, you're right Besse will likely be asked to play a 2-way game, however...Robbie Earl sure had a bit of leeway in that regard and that's where I see Besse fitting under Eaves' guidance. Earl was never great on the defensive side but his offensive upside sort of softened Eaves' approach w/him I feel.

Hammy
09-07-2012, 10:53 AM
We're not even talking about the same thing. Just more rhetoric on your dislike for Besse.

I don't disagree he needs USHL. They all could in some way or another.

It's not dislike. It's honesty after seeing years of performance.

Chuck Schwartz
09-09-2012, 09:34 PM
Call it a gut feeling, but I wouldn't be surprised if UW landed Keegan Ford and Tommy Vannelli.

Well, they just locked in one of them...

Keegan Ford is a Badger.

Badgerdude4
09-09-2012, 09:58 PM
Well, they just locked in one of them...

Keegan Ford is a Badger.

Confirmed?

Chuck Schwartz
09-09-2012, 10:43 PM
Confirmed?

Yes, he confirmed to me tonight that he committed for 2014.

More HERE (http://t.co/l5k9xMWw) if you're interested.

Chuck Schwartz
09-09-2012, 11:50 PM
Recruiting gods giveth, and the recruiting gods taketh away.

On the same night that Ford commits, we find out Grant Besse broke his tibia blocking a shot. He tweets that he'll be out for 6-8 weeks.

Almington
09-10-2012, 02:22 AM
Recruiting gods giveth, and the recruiting gods taketh away.

On the same night that Ford commits, we find out Grant Besse broke his tibia blocking a shot. He tweets that he'll be out for 6-8 weeks.

Must have been one hell of a shot to break the shin bone.

Chuck Schwartz
09-10-2012, 11:21 AM
Must have been one hell of a shot to break the shin bone.

Considering I would assume he's wearing shin guards, yeah...

Also, the 6-8 weeks thing might be the docs being very cautious with him. I guess he was telling people before the MRI he thought he it was just a bruise and that he would be back next weekend.

I remember when I broke my collarbone the weekend before the high school season, the first doctor I went to said I'd miss the whole season. Obviously I found a new doctor and missed just 4 games. Granted, I got hit and broke it again later in the season. But that's not the point!

Gandalf the Red
09-10-2012, 05:35 PM
Yes, he confirmed to me tonight that he committed for 2014.

More HERE (http://t.co/l5k9xMWw) if you're interested.

Very nice, might have to make the trip to Dubuque a few times to see the Saints play. Actually closer than the Gamblers, but has the disadvantage of being in Iowa, if barely.

Koho
09-10-2012, 10:55 PM
I don't disagree he needs USHL. They all could in some way or another.

It's not dislike. It's honesty after seeing years of performance.

Did you even see Besse in the state tourney? I don't think I remember seeing one player dominate play like that since, since, since the Junior year of Patrick White.

Chuck Schwartz
09-11-2012, 01:24 AM
Did you even see Besse in the state tourney? I don't think I remember seeing one player dominate play like that since, since, since the Junior year of Patrick White.

Funny

DPlaya
09-15-2012, 10:02 AM
There was some chatter in this thread about Keegan Ford's brother Jason. He is with Janesville in the NAHL now, and no longer with Dubuque in the USHL. I had noticed that Janesville had him on their roster last week, and he has been playing in the NAHL Showcase for the last 3 days with Janesville. Austin Vieth from Notre Dame Academy who was injured his entire Senior year (last season) has 3 goals and 3 assists in 3 games for Janesville. Chicago in the USHL held his rights at one point. Vieth's injury was a shoulder if I remember correctly and he had it surgically repaired last year right after the start of the Elite League.

Chuck Schwartz
09-16-2012, 07:58 PM
Peter Tischke got injured on Saturday. I was there watching him and Christian Dvorak play for the Mission 18's.

Tischke lasted just 3-4 shifts before taking a brutal knee-to-knee hit coming around the net. Struggled getting off the ice and into the locker room. Saw him icing his knee after he left the game, and then had to use his stick as a crutch leaving the arena for the hospital.

Was told by someone that was with him, "X-Ray clean. Strained MCL, MRI at home to see if torn. Knee brace and crutches. Return TBD."

Also, Christian Dvorak looked great. Even better than the last time I saw him. The kid is so intelligent on the ice, probably had 4-5 points in the game I watched him play Saturday including a couple goals. His entry date to Wisconsin won't be affected by his skills, because he's more offensively gifted than a lot of kids who are going to enter college this season. But he's still rail thin and needs time to work on his strength. I'd bet on him being here for 2014 when it's all said and done.

Both Wisconsin assistants Bill Butters and Gary Shuchuk were in Blaine at this event Saturday (I assume they were there all weekend). Both coaches watched about half of the Mission game. I also saw them watching the ultra talented Team Southwest from the HS Elite League that features some of the top available Minnesota players like Connor Hurley, Dylan Malmquist, Parker Reno, Shane Gersich, etc. They also were on hand to watch Team Wisconsin majors play. Although, every coach in the WCHA was there for both of these elite league games as well.

Should also note that potential recruit Brett Gruber from Team Wisconsin U16 and Notre Dame Academy broke his wrist in two places this weekend. Told me he'll be out 4-8 weeks. He's a kid who was really starting to gain some momentum as a prospect, so this is a tough injury for him. Hopefully he can get back for most of the high school season. Notre Dame should be stacked again this season and will be the favorites to repeat for a state title.

Speaking of Notre Dame Academy, starting to hear rumors of Luke Davison getting interest from a lot more teams now. Already has a Michigan Tech offer.