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TripleE
04-22-2011, 10:20 PM
With two new guys in town, lets evaluate opinions on the strength of the current head coaches.

I shall start.

1. York
2. Parker
3. Dennehey
Dennehey is the most impressive coach right now, IMO. But tenure, if for no other reason, I can't leapfrog him over Parker.
4. Umile
5. Leaman
The only thing more impressive than what Dennehey did at Mack is what Leaman did with Union. The fact that he didn't even honeymoon his Penrose before jumping on the first Hockey East offer he got, and knowing he has past ties to Maine, really ticks me off that we weren't in position to make an offer. Thank you, Blake James. Your legacy lives on.
6. Cronin
The recent issues dropped his stock a little bit. He's brought a lot to the table at NU, and I may otherwise have him contending with Umile for that 4 spot.
7. Sneddon
Don't focus solely on last year.
8. Whitehead
That 2002 Penrose is not only out of sight, but a big joke. I'm pretty sure I could have stepped onto Shawn's bench that year and 'won a few games' while never saying a word. Give anyone in the top 5 of this list the roster he had this year....think most of them would miss the postseason?
9. Cahoon
10. Bazin
Sorry bud, for now you're the 'other' new guy, and you've got your work cut out for you. Good luck.

Hokydad
04-23-2011, 08:29 AM
With two new guys in town, lets evaluate opinions on the strength of the current head coaches.

I shall start.

1. York
2. Parker
3. Dennehey
Dennehey is the most impressive coach right now, IMO. But tenure, if for no other reason, I can't leapfrog him over Parker.
4. Umile
5. Leaman
The only thing more impressive than what Dennehey did at Mack is what Leaman did with Union. The fact that he didn't even honeymoon his Penrose before jumping on the first Hockey East offer he got, and knowing he has past ties to Maine, really ticks me off that we weren't in position to make an offer. Thank you, Blake James. Your legacy lives on.
6. Cronin
The recent issues dropped his stock a little bit. He's brought a lot to the table at NU, and I may otherwise have him contending with Umile for that 4 spot.
7. Sneddon
Don't focus solely on last year.
8. Whitehead
That 2002 Penrose is not only out of sight, but a big joke. I'm pretty sure I could have stepped onto Shawn's bench that year and 'won a few games' while never saying a word. Give anyone in the top 5 of this list the roster he had this year....think most of them would miss the postseason?
9. Cahoon
10. Bazin
Sorry bud, for now you're the 'other' new guy, and you've got your work cut out for you. Good luck.

1. York
2. Leaman
3. Cronin
4. Dennehy
5. Umile
6. Parker
7. Bazin
8. Sneddon
9. Whitehead
10. Cahoon

NUMcNeely
04-23-2011, 10:04 AM
as far as ranking which coach is the most powerful cro dawg by a mile. his arms are the size of sequoia trees.

as far as which coach is best...

1.york
2.dennehy
3.leaman
4.cronin
5.umile
6.parker
7.sneddon
8.bazin
9.whitehead
10.cahoon

jcarter7669
04-23-2011, 12:40 PM
1.) York - far and away.
2.) Umile - forget NCAA, he consistently puts UNH at the top of HE no matter who comes and goes
3.) Leaman - iffy, this season was impressive, but one season doesn't make a carear
4.) Sneddon - horrible season last season but took a mid pack EZAC team and made them a competitive HE mid pack team
5.) Dennehy - If he has a decent year this year he moves to #3, but one great recruiting gem doesn't make you a great coach....just lucky
6.) Parker - when he takes his meds he is #2, when he doesn't he's #9 = average it out for #6
7.) Cronin - hard to tell, gets a lot out of an average team, an average amount out of a good team. wait and see
8.) Bazin - Can't be any worse then the rest
9.) Whitehead - Timmay gets 9 by attrition. Tim take your crayons, put on your helmet and take the short bus back to where you came from.
10.) Toot - his nickname says it all. He isn't even a turdnugget... just a toot. Anyone wonder why he still has a job?

Tater
04-23-2011, 12:59 PM
took a mid pack EZAC team and made them a typical HE contender


You must have been laughing as you wrote this.

Carmine Scarpaglia
04-23-2011, 01:30 PM
The only two obvious ones to me are York at #1 and Cahoon in last. Both of those are easy picks. After that it's kind of like a who cares situation.

I can't possibly even rate Leaman or Bazin yet.

Trending up: Cronin, Dennehy (and Leaman, Bazin as new hires).
Trending down: Parker, Cahoon, Whitehead (and maybe Sneddon?)
No trending: Umile and York.
Underrated: Umile
Overrated: Parker, Toot

mookie1995
04-23-2011, 01:56 PM
1. York
2. Leaman



3.leaman



3.) Leaman -

hmmm.. before we start sucking on each other's popsicles...
this guy went 138-127-35 over 8 years (or 91-105-25 over his first six) playing in a league that isn't the worst only because CHA/AHA exist.
and i'm not ready to give him over-the-top credit for the last two just because he found a goalie either. his last efforts include getting bounced in a 2/3 series vs toothpaste at home for crying out loud!!

Federal League
04-23-2011, 01:58 PM
The only two obvious ones to me are York at #1 and Cahoon in last. Both of those are easy picks. After that it's kind of like a who cares situation.

I can't possibly even rate Leaman or Bazin yet.

Trending up: Cronin, Dennehy (and Leaman, Bazin as new hires).
Trending down: Parker, Cahoon, Whitehead (and maybe Sneddon?)
No trending: Umile and York.
Underrated: Umile
Overrated: Parker, Toot

I agree with this. At the risk of being called a fanboy for the 117th time, I don't think Parker has trended down enough to be ranked sixth, which is where three people in this thread have put him. I mean, how often does BU finish outside the top four? Never mind sixth or worse. Now the typical retort might be, "Well yeah, because he can get top recruits pretty much at will." OK... and why is that? He's not the only reason for it, but he's certainly a pretty big one. I think recruiting has to be a part of these rankings because it's part of being a head coach (a big part, in fact).

Personal opinion based on what I've seen:

1) York
2) Parker
3) Umile
4) Sneddon
5) Dennehy (clearly the guy moving up this list the fastest, but let's see if he can make Merrimack a consistent contender before we launch him into top-3 territory)
6) Cronin
7) Leaman
8) Whitehead
9) Cahoon
10) Bazin (we have literally nothing to go on in terms of him being a D-I coach, so he's 10 by default)

CHFAN222
04-23-2011, 05:04 PM
It seems like Parker is past his peek. I mean just on reputation alone any one who can manage talent can coach at BU. Unlike most of the other schools in HE BU can recruit just on brand name alone. If your a BU fan anything less than an NCAA tournament win/ HE (reg or tournament) title should be considered a disappointment.

As far as Cahoon is concerned how is UMASS not near the top every year? They have a school that is willing to invest in the program, have a top notch facility, and have a fan base that is just dieing to be competitive and support the program. They could be to HE what Minn was to the WCHA. With over 100K+ alumni in Boston area alone they should be a dominate school.

York is just the best coach in HE no one is even close. He has built BC into a national power. He has made it the biggest sport on campus among the students which is an accomplishment considering it is a BCS school and plays home games in football against Miami and Notre Dame and hosts games against UNC and Duke. Simply amazing what he has done for that program.

Umile. Impressive keeping UNH in the hunt every year. However until he wins a national title UNH will be looked over. It might not be fair but that is just the way it is.

Cronin. Jury is still out on him. He has shown great promise for Northeastern and turning them around but hes been there 6 years now right? He has not had a Beanpot title, FF apperance, or HE title to his record yet. I know he can recruit well but can he actually follow through and produce a meaningful result?

UncleRay
04-23-2011, 05:22 PM
As far as Cahoon is concerned how is UMASS not near the top every year? They have a school that is willing to invest in the program, have a top notch facility, and have a fan base that is just dieing to be competitive and support the program.I haven't been to a UMass game in a few years, but I never saw a well-attended game. And the Maine fans were louder if not more numerous.

CHFAN222
04-23-2011, 05:50 PM
I have been there when its a near sell out and it can be intense. With the football move to FBS they will be the biggest sport "on campus".

Gainzo
04-24-2011, 01:18 AM
It seems like Parker is past his peek. I mean just on reputation alone any one who can manage talent can coach at BU. Unlike most of the other schools in HE BU can recruit just on brand name alone. If your a BU fan anything less than an NCAA tournament win/ HE (reg or tournament) title should be considered a disappointment.

As far as Cahoon is concerned how is UMASS not near the top every year? They have a school that is willing to invest in the program, have a top notch facility, and have a fan base that is just dieing to be competitive and support the program. They could be to HE what Minn was to the WCHA. With over 100K+ alumni in Boston area alone they should be a dominate school.

York is just the best coach in HE no one is even close. He has built BC into a national power. He has made it the biggest sport on campus among the students which is an accomplishment considering it is a BCS school and plays home games in football against Miami and Notre Dame and hosts games against UNC and Duke. Simply amazing what he has done for that program.

Umile. Impressive keeping UNH in the hunt every year. However until he wins a national title UNH will be looked over. It might not be fair but that is just the way it is.

Cronin. Jury is still out on him. He has shown great promise for Northeastern and turning them around but hes been there 6 years now right? He has not had a Beanpot title, FF apperance, or HE title to his record yet. I know he can recruit well but can he actually follow through and produce a meaningful result?

The Mullins is a dump. Have you ever been there?

FiveHole12
04-24-2011, 08:10 AM
I mean just on reputation alone any one who can manage talent can coach at BU. Unlike most of the other schools in HE BU can recruit just on brand name alone.
There are a lot of dumb things said on these threads, and these 2 comments rank right up there at the top of the heap. Congratulations.

FlagDUDE08
04-24-2011, 09:24 AM
hmmm.. before we start sucking on each other's popsicles...
this guy went 138-127-35 over 8 years (or 91-105-25 over his first six) playing in a league that isn't the worst only because CHA/AHA exist.
and i'm not ready to give him over-the-top credit for the last two just because he found a goalie either. his last efforts include getting bounced in a 2/3 series vs toothpaste at home for crying out loud!!

He took a team that even EZAC members thought was a joke and put them where they are now. He'll be fine. For toothpaste's successes, I blame Clarkson (SUCKS!). ;)

hockeyenthusiast
04-24-2011, 11:52 AM
For toothpaste's successes, I blame Clarkson (SUCKS!). ;)

Why?

WildShawn
04-25-2011, 07:53 AM
The Mullins is a dump. Have you ever been there?

compared to what? Agganis and Tsongas probably, but other than that, its a great facility. Its less of a 'dump' than the rest of the rinks in Hockey East (saying this as a UNH fan, fwiw)

Federal League
04-25-2011, 08:53 AM
I'd say Mullins is probably a middle-of-the-pack HE rink. It's not Agganis, Tsongas or even the Whitt, but it's nicer than Lawler, Schneider and Gutterson. Mullins and Conte are pretty much equal in my mind, although Mullins might have slightly better sightlines. Alfond and Matthews are tough to rank because they're great places to be for a hockey game, but they're not actually great arenas in terms of sightlines or anything like that. Personally, those are my two favorite HE arenas to visit, though.

FlagDUDE08
04-25-2011, 08:59 AM
Why?

They were the first ECAC team you beat. They also gave up the first ever D-I playoff series to Union (2009). Granted there's still that awful taste in my mouth from this year's ECAC playoffs, but when push comes to shove, it came down to overtime in the final game, and you won fair and square. I believe the same occurred in your playoff series with Union.

hockeyenthusiast
04-25-2011, 09:07 AM
They were the first ECAC team you beat. They also gave up the first ever D-I playoff series to Union (2009). Granted there's still that awful taste in my mouth from this year's ECAC playoffs, but when push comes to shove, it came down to overtime in the final game, and you won fair and square. I believe the same occurred in your playoff series with Union.

Oh I get it. I thought you might be referring to the 07-08 series against them.

drshoen
04-25-2011, 09:08 AM
This story on CHN may change these rankings a little: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/04/24_cronin_leaving_northeastern.php