Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

[davyd83]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

He's not. The Spirit Lake tribe approved of the name. When doing your "Happy" bit, and least make it somewhat believable.

What about Standing Rock?

[davyd83]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

You shouldn't lie.

If Dirty says it, it must be so.

[The Rube]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

What about Standing Rock?

From what I heard, the "commoners" of the tribe said ok, but the elders voted against.

[davyd83]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

From what I heard, the "commoners" of the tribe said ok, but the elders voted against.

http://plainsdaily.com/entry/standin...ioux_nickname/

There was no referendum of the "commoners."

[Dirty]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

What about Standing Rock?

What about the Oklahoma Seminoles?

[The Rube]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

http://plainsdaily.com/entry/standin...ioux_nickname/

There was no referendum of the "commoners."

You don't have to have a referendum to get a person's opinion. That's why I said "from what I've heard."

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

http://plainsdaily.com/entry/standin...ioux_nickname/

There was no referendum of the "commoners."

Standing Rock gave their approval in 1969 in a public ceremony.

Also, as Dirty brought up, the NCAA didn't care that the Oklahoma Seminole tribe has never been asked whether they like the nickname or not. North Dakota is being held to a different standard, and that's why so many feel like we're getting unfair treatment by the NCAA...because we are.

[KnowItAll]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

Regardless of what you all may think of the NCAA; it is an association of voluntary membership. If UND doesn't want to be part of it they should resign from it. If they do want to be a part of it then they either need to abide by it's rulings or begin litigation in court to show why the NCAA doesn't have the power to strip them of their hostile and abusive nickname/logo.

Note here ... it was a plethora of legal opinions, cost and reticence to litigate that brought UND to come to an agreement with the NCAA which it will be violating by continuing to use this name.

Simply choosing to ignore the agreement that they made with the NCAA will not be the end of this. The NCAA will likely apply some sanctions at this point. Hopefully, it all ends up in court. The legalities haven't changed just because the ND legislature has decided that the squeaky wheels in their email boxes must be appeased.

Bottom line: GTFO of the NCAA if you don't like it's rules.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I cannot think of a single reason not to do everything by concensus and by the rule of the majority.
I cannot WAIT till we get to vote on whether or not Jews can still own real property.

reason should never prevail over popular opinion

apparently you won Shirley Jackson's lottery... am I right?

[uaafanblog]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

This thread is useful. It's always a good thing to know who supports racist acts and imagery.

[joecct]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

Joe, Florida State is in the ACC (I'm assuming that was your train of thought).

I'm very glad that UND will be keeping the Fighting Sioux name. The Suhaki would have been a little too weird.

Know that - I live in ACC country. But among the BCS conferences, the SEC is first amongst equals. That conference can do anything, get caught with its hands in the cookie jar, and pretty much escape with only a slap on the wrist.

If the NCAA found ANY violation at UND, you can bet your bottom dollar that the ICBM's would be flying @ Grand Forks.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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If the NCAA found ANY violation at UND, you can bet your bottom dollar that the ICBM's would be flying @ Grand Forks.

Fortunately, Grand Forks is the one location in the United States that can handle such a thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safeguard_Program

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

This thread is useful. It's always a good thing to know who supports racist acts and imagery.

Also, good for who supports a vocal pc minority trying to drown out the Native American voice.

[uaafanblog]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

Also, good for who supports a vocal pc minority trying to drown out the Native American voice.

Yes ... that "minority" is a problem isn't it. Let's quantify the "minority" who support the retirement of such "nicknames" shall we?

American Indian Movement
American Jewish Committee
American Psychological Society
American Sociological Society
Asian American Journalists Association
Association on American Indian Affairs
Center for the Study of Sports in Society
Governor's Interstate Indian Council
Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council
League of United Latin American Citizens
Maryland Commission on Indian Affairs
Michigan Civil Rights Commission
Michigan Education Association
State of Michigan Board of Education
Morning Star Institute
NAACP
National Association of Black Journalists
National Association of Hispanic Journalists
National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media
National Conference of Xtians and Jews
National Conferenc for Community and Justice
National Congress of American Indians
National Education Association
National Indian Education Association
Native American Journalists Association
Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs
New Hampshire State Board of Education
New York State Education Department
North American Society for the Sociology of Sport
North Carolina Commission of Indian Affairs
North Dakota Indian Education Association
North Dakota State University Student Senate
Ohio Center for Native American Affairs
Presbyterian Church USA
Rainbow Coalition
Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americas
Southern California Indian Center
Souther Xtian Leadership Conference
St. Cloud State University
Sault Ste. Tribe of Chippewa Indians
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe
Tennessee Commision of Indian Affairs
Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations
United Church of Christ
The United Indian Nations of Oklahoma
United Methodist Church
United States Commission on Civil Rights
Wisconsin Indian Education Association

I apologize that the list of organizations is incomplete however it presents a fairly wide ranging set of peoples who took the time to EXPLICITLY decry such usage.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: Fighting Sioux to fight on...For one more year at least.

Yes ... that "minority" is a problem isn't it. Let's quantify the "minority" who support the retirement of such "nicknames" shall we?

American Indian Movement
American Jewish Committee
American Psychological Society
American Sociological Society
Asian American Journalists Association
Association on American Indian Affairs
Center for the Study of Sports in Society
Governor's Interstate Indian Council
Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council
League of United Latin American Citizens
Maryland Commission on Indian Affairs
Michigan Civil Rights Commission
Michigan Education Association
State of Michigan Board of Education
Morning Star Institute
NAACP
National Association of Black Journalists
National Association of Hispanic Journalists
National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media
National Conference of Xtians and Jews
National Conferenc for Community and Justice
National Congress of American Indians
National Education Association
National Indian Education Association
Native American Journalists Association
Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs
New Hampshire State Board of Education
New York State Education Department
North American Society for the Sociology of Sport
North Carolina Commission of Indian Affairs
North Dakota Indian Education Association
North Dakota State University Student Senate
Ohio Center for Native American Affairs
Presbyterian Church USA
Rainbow Coalition
Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americas
Southern California Indian Center
Souther Xtian Leadership Conference
St. Cloud State University
Sault Ste. Tribe of Chippewa Indians
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe
Tennessee Commision of Indian Affairs
Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations
United Church of Christ
The United Indian Nations of Oklahoma
United Methodist Church
United States Commission on Civil Rights
Wisconsin Indian Education Association

I apologize that the list of organizations is incomplete however it presents a fairly wide ranging set of peoples who took the time to EXPLICITLY decry such usage.

NDSU is against this??? I'm shocked.

When an overwhelming majority of Sioux members are in favor of the nickname, what does it matter that the United Methodist Church may have a member or two against it?

Consider your list absurd.

[MavHockey14]

This thread is useful. It's always a good thing to know who supports racist acts and imagery.

Why do you care? How do we use the name for racism? By simply having student athletes who display hardwork, leadership, dedication, drive, and PRIDE in be named the Fighting Sioux?