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93GreatLaker
04-11-2011, 02:22 PM
Here is a recent piece by OTL in regards to the rough play of USA hockey players. I don't really have any thoughts on the matter other than to say it was interesting. The fair play rule in Minnesota youth hockey does add another dimension to the game. One item of note, early on in the story there was a rink that had a Utica, Oswego, Elmira (among others) banners up in the rafters. I was wondering if that was Neumann's rink (I have never been there).

Anyway, thought I'd share the link.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6305684

Dandydan
04-11-2011, 04:58 PM
That is the Neumann home rink. The footage was shot at Iceworks in Aston Pa where Neumann pays its home games. The teams were from some local tier 2 organizations that were playing in a tournament I gather.

bakdraft21
04-11-2011, 05:25 PM
I know 1 thing for sure that seamless glass is NO friend to the hockey players.........ow yea and herb brooks didnt shake our hand after we, Oswego, beat him in the final 4 in 87.....not that it still bothers me til this day lol

NUProf
04-11-2011, 06:37 PM
I know 1 thing for sure that seamless glass is NO friend to the hockey players.........ow yea and herb brooks didnt shake our hand after we, Oswego, beat him in the final 4 in 87.....not that it still bothers me til this day lol

So does that mean that Emery is channelling Herb Brooks :D

MountieBoyOz
04-12-2011, 09:55 PM
I think you can look at the equipment as well. Pads are hard as a rock and it looks like players are wearing suits of armor. I'm not saying let's go helmetless. The cages are a lot better than the visors that the NHL has. Let's try to put some more give in the pads like elbow pads.

Also, players need to have their heads up to avoid getting creamed. Concussions won't go away, but we can reduce them by following some things in the report.

collegehcky2
04-12-2011, 11:12 PM
I think you can look at the equipment as well. Pads are hard as a rock and it looks like players are wearing suits of armor. I'm not saying let's go helmetless. The cages are a lot better than the visors that the NHL has. Let's try to put some more give in the pads like elbow pads.

Also, players need to have their heads up to avoid getting creamed. Concussions won't go away, but we can reduce them by following some things in the report.

I think there's a little bit to the equipment theory. When I played youth hockey my equipment felt like actual protective equipment, I felt the restrictiveness (although little) and the weight to it, fast forward to ten years later. I bought equipment last and this year, it's now so light that I don't even feel it on, I think it helps me move faster and put more emphasis on placement of hits and energy of hits rather than just putting the body on someone.

joecct
04-13-2011, 11:18 AM
Guys, watch this video from March, 1974. It's from the Snively Arena at UNH.
(1) Note the low glass on the side. You could not chip the puck over the defenseman's head to clear the zone.
(2) Yes, Virginia, it IS chicken wire behind the net!
(3) Note the equipment.
(4) Take a good look @ the guy in the blue jacket at the end of the video. That is a very young Bob Norton.
(5) Which coach these days would put 3 forwards out there 3 x 3? On the PK that year, UNH would put out 3 forwards and 1 defenseman - and it worked.
(6) #8 RPI did eventually win the game against #1 UNH. Cap Raeder (Doug's dad) got hurt in the game and had to be replaced.
I miss those days!!

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one_to7
04-14-2011, 11:27 PM
I think you can look at the equipment as well. Pads are hard as a rock and it looks like players are wearing suits of armor. I'm not saying let's go helmetless. The cages are a lot better than the visors that the NHL has. Let's try to put some more give in the pads like elbow pads.

Also, players need to have their heads up to avoid getting creamed. Concussions won't go away, but we can reduce them by following some things in the report.
There's a lot of discussion about whether cages are in fact worse for concussions than visors. Cages will prevent facial injuries, but they do absolutely nothing to prevent concussions, and might make them worse by channeling forces from hits directly on to the chin (which is a great way to get a concussion.)

Joe, why don't the goalies' equipment take up 3/4 of the net in that video? ;)

Saints17
04-15-2011, 12:07 AM
My take on this issue....
For one, get rid of the hard plastic that is on the equipment today. Secondly, our game has expanded in to markets where they have a football mentality. Lastly, there are too many coaches out there who have never seen a higher level of hockey than high school.
The gear has gone from protective to a weapon like material. Hockey is now in markets like Texas, where its smash 'em, crash 'em. I chuckle when some local parents think because Johnny can score against kids who can't skate, will be in the NHL before they can legally have a beer.
Perhaps we have are the result of the ESPN highlights. Kids want to explode into an opponent rather than create offense.
I recall my Dad taking me out to a piece of ice to learn how to skate, not how to hit someone.

joeyc3402
04-15-2011, 08:07 AM
For one, get rid of the hard plastic that is on the equipment today.

Amen. Particularly elbow pads and shoulder pads. Equipment's supposed to protect the player wearing it - not hurt the players he's hitting.

As an interesting side note, the NCAA sport with the highest incidence of concussions? No, it's not men's hockey. It's not even football. It's women's hockey, a "non-checking" sport.

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
04-15-2011, 08:32 AM
As an interesting side note, the NCAA sport with the highest incidence of concussions? No, it's not men's hockey. It's not even football. It's women's hockey, a "non-checking" sport.

My guess at a reason: because some body checking still happens, but the players are almost never anticipating it the way a men's hockey player would. In fact, because it's not SUPPOSED to be part of the game, many of these girls are never taught "how to safely receive a check".

NUProf
04-15-2011, 08:58 AM
My guess at a reason: because some body checking still happens, but the players are almost never anticipating it the way a men's hockey player would. In fact, because it's not SUPPOSED to be part of the game, many of these girls are never taught "how to safely receive a check".

There also seems to be some evidence in studies that I have read that women are more susceptible to concussions than men in basketball. I wish I could quote the source.

VT bragging rights
04-15-2011, 12:41 PM
I think WCAX CBS in VT last fall did a article that girls in High School soccer also had a higher rate of concussions.

Rayolite
04-17-2011, 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=joecct;5119458]Guys, watch this video from March, 1974. It's from the Snively Arena at UNH.


Ah, the memories of "Lively Snively" It was a great place to enjoy a game.