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Dirty Dream No. 2
04-10-2011, 11:41 AM
Seriously. Following the game, what's Red b*tching about? PENALTIES. This from the coach who, year after year, has teams that play nasty after the whistle, insist on getting the last word in scrums, behave with impunity and basically get generous no-calls from CCHA officials every single season. But the one game where Red and his boys get their comeuppance, Red b*tches about penalties.

What an insufferable a&shole. Hey, Red. Here's a clue. Maybe if you instilled some discipline, decency, class and respect in your players instead of letting them act like the entitled, spoiled b1tches you recruit, you wouldn't get screwed by non-conference refs in the biggest game of the season. As a fan of a CCHA team, your whines fall on deaf ears. I hope Big 11 officials don't get bullied by you into generous no-calls, you pile of sh1t.

"Just too many penalties. Were they good penalties? I can't tell you what I really think. I mean, you can't talk about refereeing and penalties, but when one team gets nine and the other four, it doesn't add up. We just thought we were on our heels a lot because of penalties."

Happy
04-10-2011, 12:00 PM
Are you saying you don't like Red? give the old, old guy a break, he was after all on the ice for this;

http://www.sportsvideodaily.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/20080724231921Bobby-orr-1.jpg

billmich88888
04-10-2011, 12:10 PM
Seriously. Following the game, what's Red b*tching about? PENALTIES. This from the coach who, year after year, has teams that play nasty after the whistle, insist on getting the last word in scrums, behave with impunity and basically get generous no-calls from CCHA officials every single season. But the one game where Red and his boys get their comeuppance, Red b*tches about penalties.

What an insufferable a&shole. Hey, Red. Here's a clue. Maybe if you instilled some discipline, decency, class and respect in your players instead of letting them act like the entitled, spoiled b1tches you recruit, you wouldn't get screwed by non-conference refs in the biggest game of the season. As a fan of a CCHA team, your whines fall on deaf ears. I hope Big 11 officials don't get bullied by you into generous no-calls, you pile of sh1t.

"Just too many penalties. Were they good penalties? I can't tell you what I really think. I mean, you can't talk about refereeing and penalties, but when one team gets nine and the other four, it doesn't add up. We just thought we were on our heels a lot because of penalties."

For someone espousing that another has no class, your profanity laced tirade exposes you own shortcoming in that department. You could have made the exact same point (some of what you bring up IS valid) with class and dignity, and not made a fool of yourself in the process.

CHFAN222
04-10-2011, 12:36 PM
What do you expect when you get HE refs for the game :rolleyes:

mookie1995
04-10-2011, 12:51 PM
What do you expect when you get HE refs for the game :rolleyes:

The angry old guy to get his way! :D

KnowItAll
04-10-2011, 12:51 PM
For someone espousing that another has no class, your profanity laced tirade exposes you own shortcoming in that department. You could have made the exact same point (some of what you bring up IS valid) with class and dignity, and not made a fool of yourself in the process.

sometimes cussing adds flavor and tone. Most adults in a hockey forum can deal with that, and better understand the feelings and intentions of the writer. Maybe there is a poetry for seventh graders forum where you would feel more comfortable? or you could stop reading when someone offends your sensibilities...(not the way in Obama's america, I know)
In Hockey East we deal with jack parker getting the same "respect" from the refs and therefore heaps of disrespect for everyone else's team, coach and programs.

In a way, I am glad to read that there is another jackie out there, in another way, I have to wonder what is wrong with Piotrowski to allow his refs to behave the way they do... and then I remember HIS performance in a game in 2002, and realize that fairness is not always as important as doing what is politically expedient.

KnowItAll
04-10-2011, 12:53 PM
The angry old guy to get his way! :D

yeah, and I know exactly why you think the angry old guy SHOULD get his way, you have been seeing it done for YEARS... and yes, I am jealous that _I_ no longer have Shawn yelling and getting HIS way

KnowItAll
04-10-2011, 12:55 PM
What do you expect when you get HE refs for the game :rolleyes:

it ain't JUST HE refs, it is the crew that decided not to allow a Lowell goal in the hockey east finals 3 seasons ago. the video replay showed that there was no question about it.... apparently the replay booth did not have audio, but Bunyan messed that up too

as for one team getting 4 and the other team getting 9 penalties... I have NO problem with that, as long as the calls are consistent... sometimes one team really IS doing all of the tripping, holding, hooking...

aparch
04-10-2011, 01:01 PM
What do you expect when you get HE refs for the game :rolleyes:

I was just happy to see a CCHA team finally get called for penalties that should have been.

alnike
04-10-2011, 01:13 PM
.. sometimes one team really IS doing all of the tripping, holding, hooking...

You can add some embellishing too. Being a ref isn't easy. Red was clearly frustrated with the whistle happy crew. On Thursday night, Kevin Lynch from Michigan got called for an embellishment, where a 250 lb Sioux d-man MacWilliam interfered with him. MacWilliam got the call, and nearly fell over himself after impeding Lynch. Lynch then goes down after bumping into power forward Malone from NoDak and it evens up.

IMO, 3 of the 9 calls last night were real marginal, and two were enhanced/embellished by #12 Jack Connolly. On Winnett's interference call in the first, Connolly jumps up into the cross bar (to apparently avoid a land mine in the crease) to get the refs attention like he was mugged.

Brown got called for a charge in the first, when he was in the slot and checked a player after just shooting the puck.

Then #12 Connolly was back at it in the 3rd, going into a shell along the boards instead of going after the puck to take a boarding call from Lynch.

UMD knew how to agitate Michigan, including #22 Mike Connolly shooting the puck in the net after the whistle and not getting an unsportmanlike for it.

Neil Diamond
04-10-2011, 01:17 PM
Red is a jerk. He typifies the Michigan program perfectly: they simply assume the championship is theirs, just because of the name. When they don't win, the classlessness shows in spades.

Way to go UMD!!

Greyeagle
04-10-2011, 01:21 PM
The angry old guy to get his way! :D

Pahka was there? :D

goldy_331
04-10-2011, 01:22 PM
So, maybe it's a tie between alnike and Red....

Hokydad
04-10-2011, 01:53 PM
True but I wouuld rather here his honest feelings than bs cliches


We can agree or not

Glad they lost

FadeToBlack&Gold
04-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Did you hear that Joe Thornton got traded? :eek:

alnike
04-10-2011, 02:04 PM
So, maybe it's a tie between alnike and Red....

Nope, not at all. Already stated that UMD was the better team and deserved winner. Just offering some perspective after watching the tape again. Michigan overachieved, there were probably six teams better than them at the end of the year.

Old Pio
04-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Red is a jerk. He typifies the Michigan program perfectly: they simply assume the championship is theirs, just because of the name. When they don't win, the classlessness shows in spades.

Way to go UMD!!

Hey Neil, get out of my pin head would ya? There's barely enough room in there for my tiny brain without you rummaging around, stealing my material. It's almost as if Michigan has a question on the coaching application: "Are you an insufferable putz?" Call it the Schembechler Interrogatory.

satyking
04-10-2011, 04:15 PM
I am still lookin for the goal that never was against Omaha.....irreputable evidence ????......anytime Michigan loses its a great day......coach and fans are all ***holes

kjaskolski
04-10-2011, 04:55 PM
I am still lookin for the goal that never was against Omaha.....irreputable evidence ????......anytime Michigan loses its a great day......coach and fans are all ***holes

Nice, way to generalize, i know, we are ALL ***holes, every single one of us!! and i am glad you are so happy that big bad Michigan lost so all of us ***holes can feel the pain.

davyd83
04-10-2011, 05:10 PM
I am still lookin for the goal that never was against Omaha.....irreputable evidence ????......anytime Michigan loses its a great day......coach and fans are all ***holes

Do you mean the evidence that had a bad reputation?