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FlagDUDE08
04-03-2012, 10:23 PM
Although... that's another idea.

Make it like the Memorial Cup and guarantee the host appears.

(Yes. I am kidding. Well, no, sadly, I'm not kidding about the Memorial Cup.)

Then you'd only be able to host once every twelve years, it would screw up bracketing (unless the league had 13 teams, and then 13 years), and there's no guarantee there's a rink nearby to house the number of people expected to attend.

UnionHockeyManiac
04-03-2012, 11:45 PM
Has anyone mentioned new Barclays center in Brooklyn? In its hockey config it seats 14,500 - AND its new permenant home for NYCs Disney on Ice show! Lol. The spot is so easy tranportation wise. Its on top of the LIRR terminal - intended to woo Islanders fans (but of course there is a fantastic hockey culture out there.) Its also accessible via express subway to Metro North, Amtrak and all of NJ transit. Once you land in NYC at any of the transport hubs, its a 15-20 minute straight shot to the doors of the area. There's excellent dining choices (Brooklyns restaraunt row is next door) and good hotels like Aloft, Botiques, Holiday Inn express and full service ones like the Marriot, Sheraton etc within walking distance of the arena. The best hockey bar in the city is 4 blocks away.

And of course my house is a five minute walk from there hence my lobbying. I have a sick back yard and would love to throw a kegger for Union fans!

Yes, I mentioned it back on page 8:


As much as I hate the NJ Nets, I actually think the Barclays Center in Brooklyn would be the best option. It would be good because...

1. New York City (TON of alumni, great destination, etc)
2. Seating Capacity of 14,500 (a little too big, but not HUGE)
3. Gettable (MSG would be awesome, but I don't think it can be pulled off)
4. New arena, nice facility

-1 hour from Princeton
-1.5 hours from Yale and Quinnipiac
-3 hours from Union and RPI
-3.5 hours from Brown
-4 hours from Cornell, Harvard, Colgate
-4.5 hours from Dartmouth
-7 hours from St. Lawrence and Clarkson (sorry...)

Has anyone come up with a reason why it wouldn't be good?

Ralph Baer
04-04-2012, 07:11 AM
Yes, I mentioned it back on page 8:

It certainly makes more sense than AC, but would they be interested in holding it?

FlagDUDE08
04-04-2012, 07:14 AM
It certainly makes more sense than AC, but would they be interested in holding it?

NYC seems more like a baseball town than a hockey town to me. I'm not familiar with the fringe hockey support.

LTsatch
04-04-2012, 07:34 AM
Wish i could say New Haven, CT this building held 8K for hockey perfect size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klC2kcpNOvE

redhead18
04-04-2012, 09:02 AM
A rumor was floating around yesterday in Bridgeport that AC is out for next year. Wouldn't that be nice.If thats the case, I really wouldnt be surprised to see the ECAC's in Providence next season. There was an article in the Providence Journal last September about the city wanting to host college hockey events again, like the NCAA regionals, which they got and also mentioned the ECAC tournament, could that be next? I couldnt find the original article but Ken Schott also did a writeup on it:

http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2011/sep/12/is-ecac-hockey-tournament-on-the-move-to-providenc/


Could the ECAC Hockey tournament championship round be on the move to "The Dunk," possibly as soon as this season?

Jim Bennett, chairman of the board of the Rhode Island Convention Center and director of Providence's Department of Economic Development, gave the impression that it was going to happen in an interview in Sunday's Providence Journal.

Bennett would like the tournament, which started a three-year run in Atlantic City, N.J., last season, to move to Providence's Dunkin' Donuts Center.

Bennett told the Journal he met with ECAC Hockey commissioner Steve Hagwell and director of officiating Paul Stewart on Sept. 1, and that the league was open to moving the tournament there.

"They've given us a number to hit, and now we've got to see if we can hit it," said Bennett, who is trying to bring college hockey back to the Dunkin' Donuts Center in his capacity as chairman of the board of the Rhode Island Convention Center and director of Providence's Department of Economic Development.

"I feel very encouraged," Bennett said. "They loved the site. Now, it's up to us to see if we can [meet the financial guarantee]."

I spoke with Hagwell Monday afternoon. All he had to say was this: "We have a contract with Atlantic City. I will not break that contract."

The tournament, which moved to Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall after an eight-year run at the Times Union Center, drew poorly in March. The two-day announced attendance total was 7,477.

Osorojo
04-04-2012, 09:48 AM
On network television.

redhead18
04-18-2012, 06:00 PM
Looks like Albany wants the ECAC championships back. Lake Placid, Bridgeport and Providence are the other locations likely to make a bid.

http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2012/apr/18/times-union-center-to-bid-for-ecac-hockey-tourname/

hab
04-18-2012, 06:27 PM
Hold it in the rink of the team that finishes first in the conference.
1) college hockey rink, college atmosphere
2) good probability that the host team will be involved
3) in a conference where every team makes the playoffs :(, we need to find some way to make the regular season mean something

DrDemento
04-18-2012, 07:00 PM
Outdoors-on a lake in the central Adirondacks. Old Time Hockey!

FlagDUDE08
04-18-2012, 07:58 PM
Outdoors-on a lake in the central Adirondacks. Old Time Hockey!

Dr.D wins the thread.

redhead18
04-19-2012, 08:40 AM
Hold it in the rink of the team that finishes first in the conference.
1) college hockey rink, college atmosphere
2) good probability that the host team will be involved
3) in a conference where every team makes the playoffs :(, we need to find some way to make the regular season mean somethingI dont think that would be a good idea as most of the school rinks are a little on the small side to host the championships. I do agree with you on #3 though, not sure what the league could do to change that however.

Albany is probably one of the best locations from a league standpoint being centrally located and easy to get to. As a fan though, I have to think Lake Placid or Providence would be popular choices.

uniondutch21
04-19-2012, 09:03 AM
Outdoors-on a lake in the central Adirondacks. Old Time Hockey!

You are assuming the lake will be frozen in March...was it this year? Might have been a little iffy.

DrDemento
04-19-2012, 11:59 AM
You are assuming the lake will be frozen in March...was it this year? Might have been a little iffy.

We have usually been able to drive our truck on the lake in front of our house every winter until at least April. (Some years until almost May). This year was indeed abnormally warm and much less snow than usual-but I would even move the tournament up a week just to see it played there!!:D

TimU
04-19-2012, 03:04 PM
Actually, I think the lakes were frozen in March.

There's a contest every year in Danville, VT where people try to guess the exact time of "iceout" on Joe's Pond (link (http://joespondvermont.com/iceout.html)). They have a designated spot where they put a cinder block on a piece of wood on the ice. When the cinder block falls through and sinks, the ice is officially out. This year's date was April 8. You wouldn't have wanted to play hockey there anytime close to iceout, but I'll bet there were plenty of places in the Adirondacks that had pretty thick ice in mid-March.

kdiff77
04-19-2012, 03:09 PM
I kind of like the idea of having it hosted by each school (not a fan of the "first place in the conference" thing though; it would pretty much rotate between a very small number of schools). This would unfortunately mean each school only gets to host once every 12 years, but I think the idea itself is cool. Meehan Auditorium at Brown, for example, is set up so there are two identical sides with standing room above each net (I believe Union's Messa Rink has a similar setup). This would create very distinct and unified fan sections, which would make for an intense atmosphere. The size of the rink (2,495-3,100, depending on who you ask) would also guarantee a packed house, as I'm sure even AC gets enough fans to fill a rink of that size.

Though I'm not as familiar with most of the other rinks, I'm sure it would be equally neat for each school to host the finals. They could promote the heck out of it, drive up ticket demand, make a nice little profit (to be shared with the league, of course), and get a buzz going on campus, even if their team wasn't participating (and if Brown hosted, we most likely would not be involved :p).

A problem I could see, however, would be finding a way to ensure that the seats are sold to fans of the teams who are actually involved. I'm sure at Lynah or Ingalls, the tickets would be gobbled up by Cornell and Yale season ticket-holders immediately. Obviously at places with either larger capacities (RPI, Dartmouth) or smaller fanbases (Brown, Harvard, Princeton, Colgate) this wouldn't be a problem, but it would be lame to see Lynah Rink filled with 3,000 Big Red fans watching in total apathy (assuming Cornell didn't make it that year) with only several hundred people who actually care dispersed throughout the arena. I don't know if anyone follows MLS (probably not), but in the 2009 MLS Cup, Seattle hosted the final between Los Angeles and Real Salt Lake, and while it sold out, it had to be 90% Seattle fans who really didn't care about the outcome of the game.

In reality, each school hosting the finals would probably not work out, but it's a cool thing to think about. Each school would get to show off a bit, even if they weren't participating in the event they'd be hosting.

FlagDUDE08
04-19-2012, 03:17 PM
A problem I could see, however, would be finding a way to ensure that the seats are sold to fans of the teams who are actually involved. I'm sure at Lynah or Ingalls, the tickets would be gobbled up by Cornell and Yale season ticket-holders immediately. Obviously at places with either larger capacities (RPI, Dartmouth) or smaller fanbases (Brown, Harvard, Princeton, Colgate) this wouldn't be a problem, but it would be lame to see Lynah Rink filled with 3,000 Big Red fans watching in total apathy (assuming Cornell didn't make it that year) with only several hundred people who actually care dispersed throughout the arena. I don't know if anyone follows MLS (probably not), but in the 2009 MLS Cup, Seattle hosted the final between Los Angeles and Real Salt Lake, and while it sold out, it had to be 90% Seattle fans who really didn't care about the outcome of the game.

It's been that long since Brown was our female dog for Freakout, eh?

kdiff77
04-19-2012, 03:27 PM
It's been that long since Brown was our female dog for Freakout, eh?

Not sure what you mean by that.

FlagDUDE08
04-19-2012, 03:57 PM
Not sure what you mean by that.

We can sell out HFH. Usually just Freakout, though we've had a few others sell out.

DrDemento
04-19-2012, 05:24 PM
Actually, I think the lakes were frozen in March.

There's a contest every year in Danville, VT where people try to guess the exact time of "iceout" on Joe's Pond (link (http://joespondvermont.com/iceout.html)). They have a designated spot where they put a cinder block on a piece of wood on the ice. When the cinder block falls through and sinks, the ice is officially out. This year's date was April 8. You wouldn't have wanted to play hockey there anytime close to iceout, but I'll bet there were plenty of places in the Adirondacks that had pretty thick ice in mid-March.

Tim-In the 27 years we have owned a home on the lake in the Adirondacks we have seen the iceout occur anywhere from March 30 as the earliest and May 9 as the latest. i would not trust the ice for at least the 2 week period before those dates. Of course i was semi joking about holding the tournament outdoors as i am sure doing so would present a myriad of problems. But it sure would be fun and very convenient for us.:)