Hey we are looking to watch the finale 4 on tv we have direct tv, what ch ? and what time ? and are they having all game on ? thanks for the info.
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Originally posted by fritz View PostNo TV is just horrible. What an insult. NCAA Shame, shame, shame! You're like the Scott Walker of college sports.Minnesota Hockey
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I'm not in anyway defending CBS or any other broadcasting company, but can you imagine if you were an athlete at the national swimming, or wrestling, or field hockey championships, or the parents of said athlete...they are never broadcast ever, so I think we all will have to suck it up and realize hhat basketball rules the world! That said, I'll bet within 5 years, all of the D1 schools will broadcast their entire seasons and all playoffs via the web...by then all TV's will be hooked up to online and cable tv will be onl it's way out.....however until then.....we suffer
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Originally posted by brookyone View PostI think the blame may be due CBS...who I believe purchased CSTV, who used to broadcast the FF semifinals and final, then immediately cancelled the semifinals broadcast...and ultimately the entire FF broadcast. Thanks so much to CBS...
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Originally posted by brookyone View PostI think the blame may be due CBS...who I believe purchased CSTV, who used to broadcast the FF semifinals and final, then immediately cancelled the semifinals broadcast...and ultimately the entire FF broadcast. Thanks so much to CBS..."Some cultures are defined by their relationship to cheese." - Joon
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Originally posted by zoofer View PostI'm not in anyway defending CBS or any other broadcasting company, but can you imagine if you were an athlete at the national swimming, or wrestling, or field hockey championships, or the parents of said athlete...they are never broadcast ever, so I think we all will have to suck it up and realize hhat basketball rules the world! That said, I'll bet within 5 years, all of the D1 schools will broadcast their entire seasons and all playoffs via the web...by then all TV's will be hooked up to online and cable tv will be onl it's way out.....however until then.....we suffer
I hope you're right Hux...regarding access to a "quality" webstreamed video. The BC / Minnesota webcast I watched was fairly poor quality.Minnesota Hockey
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Originally posted by Hux View PostThey may well have done us a favor. It is a lot easier to find a web feed than it is to find CSTV unless you have a cable package with this tier and that tier. While the webcasts can be an iffy proposition during the season, I would suspect the NCAA would have a solid production crew in place for this event. (Though I heard the BU game pretty much sucked, so who knows)
Video: Better than most regular season webcasts. I think I detected at least 3 cameras. However, definition was poor, very poor. Grade? Well, against the curve of regular season I guess I have to give a B based on multiple cameras. Against even the worst produced actual TV production I have ever seen though the extremely fuzzy picture means a grade of no better than a D.
Audio: Better than some but that's taking into consideration that some are pretty awful. It sounded like a student play-by-play announcer with a former player doing commentary. Although he at least understood the game the student does NOT have a future in broadcasting. He recognized where the puck was but almost never identified any of the players, either BC or Minnesota, in proximity to the puck. The former player was knowledgeable but not extremely polished. She was OK, he was substandard. Grade against other webcasts? C. Against the worst TV I have ever seen? D.
So there you go, about a low B or high C against other webcasts, an unsatisfactory against even the local cablecasts of high school games that I see on public access where I live.
Sorry, Hux, I don't think they have done us a favor by moving the games off even the most obscure tier of my cable package.Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Originally posted by Hux View PostThey may well have done us a favor.
I'd be tempted to turn off the sound and just use the video, but the quality on my computer is such that I can't see the puck much of the time. Give me the games on CBS College and I'll make do with Billy Jaffe, Ellen Weinberg-Hughes, or whomever they wish to pass off as a women's hockey expert. At least I'll get production quality one would expect from a sports broadcast, even if I have to endure 50 updates an hour on what's going on in March Madness. My TV is designed for such purposes, my computer is better suited to exchanging witty banter with folks like you."... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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I thought the BC/Minnesota webcast was acceptable for a free service. It was certainly heads and shoulders above the usual B2TV webcast. Having a former player as the "color man" was a good idea that didn't work very well. Maybe someone a little more chatty would've helped if that's what she was there for. I thought the play-by-play guy did a decent job even with the mispronounciation of several players' names, but then WCHA fans hear these names all season, so we notice the flubs. All in all it was better than nothing. And free stuff is always okay with me.
I know some teams already produce their own pay-per-view webcasts in-house. I wonder when that's going to become the norm and "services" like B2TV are no longer needed. Maybe as new arenas are built or current ones are upgraded (if that even happens), in-house video production will be standard. I know at Amsoil Arena in Duluth, for example, they dropped a cool $1 million just for a video scoreboard. During the games you're getting live video, slow-mo replays and they use several mobile cameras for things like crowd shots and the dreaded KissCam. If a school (or a donor like at PSU) is going to throw a huge pile of money at a new arena, I assume video production is on the shopping list. I don't know if UMD is going to start doing its own webcasts next season or not, but why spend all that money on a video system and crew and then pay someone like B2TV to webcast a crappy feed of the game?
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I don't know which B2 broadcasts that you watch, but the one's I get are all local (student?) announcers and color commentators. I think that B2 just transmits what the schools broadcast. I've seen everything from great broadcasts (video and audio) to no sound and a camera placed at one end with no panning or audio.
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Originally posted by JosephPSchmoe View PostHaving a former player as the "color man" was a good idea that didn't work very well. Maybe someone a little more chatty would've helped if that's what she was there for. I thought the play-by-play guy did a decent job even with the mispronounciation of several players' names, but then WCHA fans hear these names all season, so we notice the flubs. All in all it was better than nothing. And free stuff is always okay with me.
Of course A.J. Mleczko has done color for the Olympics, and Angela Ruggiero did color for the last few CSTV final broadcasts. Both had previously worked with Brian at some point, probably A.J. more than Angela.
I was happy with Doc Emrick when he did the Frozen Four during the lockout, and when he did the Olympics he made plenty of shout-outs to U.S. college hockey.
I would hope the quality of the Frozen Four webcasts would be far greater than the NCAA quarterfinal broadcasts, knowing that these are events that used to be televised, and we've known the FF would be in Erie for years, whereas BC couldn't be sure it was hosting a QF until the moment the selections were announced.
And finally, what made me most happy about the QF webcasts wasn't that they were free, it's that they ALL WORKED, which I can't say was true for the 4OT Harvard@Wisconsin 2007 NCAA quarterfinal.
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Originally posted by dave1381 View PostAnd finally, what made me most happy about the QF webcasts wasn't that they were free, it's that they ALL WORKED, which I can't say was true for the 4OT Harvard@Wisconsin 2007 NCAA quarterfinal."... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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