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irishfan85
03-15-2011, 02:10 AM
Player of the Year: Paul Thompson, UNH (Runner up: Cam Atkinson, BC)
Rookie of the Year: Mike Pereira, UMass (Runner up: Mike Collins, MC)
Defensive Defenseman: Jordan Heywood, MC (Runner up: Phillip Samuelson, BC)
Defensive Forward: Brian Gibbons, BC (Runner up: Ryan Flanigan, MC)
Coach of the Year: Mark Dennehy, MC (Unanimous)

First Team All Hockey East:
Forward: Cam Atkinson, BC
Forward: Paul Thompson, UNH
Forward: Gustav Nyquist, Maine
Defense: Brian Dumoulin, BC
Defense: Karl Stollery, MC
Goalie: John Muse, BC

Second Team All Hockey East:
Forward: Stephane Da Costa, MC
Forward: Brian Gibbons, BC
Forward: Brian Flynn, Maine
Defense: Phillip Samuelsson, BC
Defense: Blake Kessel, UNH
Goalie: Joe Cannata, MC

Honorable Mention: Wade McLeod, NU; Chris Barton, MC; Mike Sislo, UNH; Tommy Cross, BC; David Warsofsky, BU; Matt DiGiralomo, UNH

All Rookie Team:
Forward: Mike Pereira, UMass
Forward: Mike Collins, MC
Forward: Charlie Coyle, BU
Defense: Jordan Heywood, MC
Defense: Adam Clendening, BU
Defense: Jamie Oleksiak, NU
No goalie - They've done weird things in past like more than the right number of forwards or d-men. If I had to pick a goalie, Dan Sullivan of Maine, but he let in way too many softies, but only frosh goalie with above .900 save pct.

mpereira
03-15-2011, 02:30 AM
Honorable Mention: Wade McLeod, NU; Chris Barton, MC; Mike Sislo, UNH; Tommy Cross, BC; David Warsofsky, BU; Matt DiGiralomo, UNH

All Rookie Team:
Forward: Mike Pereira, UMass
Forward: Mike Collins, MC
Forward: Charlie Coyle, BU
Defense: Jordan Heywood, MC
Defense: Adam Clendening, BU
Defense: Jamie Oleksiak, NU
No goalie - They've done weird things in past like more than the right number of forwards or d-men. If I had to pick a goalie, Dan Sullivan of Maine, but he let in way too many softies, but only frosh goalie with above .900 save pct.

Warsofsky doesn't even belong in honorable mention as he had a bad year. I would take Alex Chiasson or Joe Pereira over him but sense it a defenseman's spot go with someone else in the league. I think both Clendening and Garrett Noonan both had better years at BU than Warsofsky. I would possibly switch BU's Matt Nieto with Collins or Coyle as he really had a strong second half of the year but overall I agree with 90% of your choices. Nice job.

irishfan85
03-15-2011, 02:34 AM
Warsofsky doesn't even belong in honorable mention as he had a bad year. I would take Alex Chiasson or Joe Pereira over him but sense it a defenseman's spot go with someone else in the league. I think both Clendening and Garrett Noonan both had better years at BU than Warsofsky. I would possibly switch BU's Matt Nieto with Collins or Coyle as he really had a strong second half of the year but overall I agree with 90% of your choices. Nice job.

I agree regarding Warsofsky not having as good of a year, but a lot of the times, players get votes based on reputation.

FiveHole12
03-15-2011, 05:40 AM
Player of the Year: Paul Thompson, UNH (Runner up: Cam Atkinson, BC)
Rookie of the Year: Mike Pereira, UMass (Runner up: Mike Collins, MC)
Defensive Defenseman: Jordan Heywood, MC (Runner up: Phillip Samuelson, BC)
Defensive Forward: Brian Gibbons, BC (Runner up: Ryan Flanigan, MC)
Coach of the Year: Mark Dennehy, MC (Unanimous)

First Team All Hockey East:
Forward: Cam Atkinson, BC
Forward: Paul Thompson, UNH
Forward: Gustav Nyquist, Maine
Defense: Brian Dumoulin, BC
Defense: Karl Stollery, MC
Goalie: John Muse, BC

Second Team All Hockey East:
Forward: Stephane Da Costa, MC
Forward: Brian Gibbons, BC
Forward: Brian Flynn, Maine
Defense: Phillip Samuelsson, BC
Defense: Blake Kessel, UNH
Goalie: Joe Cannata, MC

Honorable Mention: Wade McLeod, NU; Chris Barton, MC; Mike Sislo, UNH; Tommy Cross, BC; David Warsofsky, BU; Matt DiGiralomo, UNH

All Rookie Team:
Forward: Mike Pereira, UMass
Forward: Mike Collins, MC
Forward: Charlie Coyle, BU
Defense: Jordan Heywood, MC
Defense: Adam Clendening, BU
Defense: Jamie Oleksiak, NU
No goalie - They've done weird things in past like more than the right number of forwards or d-men. If I had to pick a goalie, Dan Sullivan of Maine, but he let in way too many softies, but only frosh goalie with above .900 save pct.
Are you trying to pizz off hokydad? :D

Nick Papagiorgio
03-15-2011, 08:41 AM
I'm still trying to figure out this defensive forward award here. Is this just given to the forward with the best +/- as if it is required by Hockey East? Otherwise, taking Gibbons, an offensive force and not a shutdown forward, for that award is kind of ridiculous. Gibbons, FWIW, is still the best player in Hockey East, he's just not the best defensive forward in the league by a long shot.

But that's just me.

irishfan85
03-15-2011, 01:02 PM
I'm still trying to figure out this defensive forward award here. Is this just given to the forward with the best +/- as if it is required by Hockey East? Otherwise, taking Gibbons, an offensive force and not a shutdown forward, for that award is kind of ridiculous. Gibbons, FWIW, is still the best player in Hockey East, he's just not the best defensive forward in the league by a long shot.

But that's just me.

I would have tended to give it to some one on Merrimack's third line. Flanigan for instance has the best plus/minus of any MC forward, but Sheen and Madsen are MC's top two PKers. I didn't want to look like too big of a homer. Gibson does lead HE in SH points I believe.

Thiessen'sBetter
03-15-2011, 02:34 PM
I'm still trying to figure out this defensive forward award here. Is this just given to the forward with the best +/- as if it is required by Hockey East? Otherwise, taking Gibbons, an offensive force and not a shutdown forward, for that award is kind of ridiculous. Gibbons, FWIW, is still the best player in Hockey East, he's just not the best defensive forward in the league by a long shot.

But that's just me.

He evidently confused "being a hack" with "playing defense".:D

RockTheWhit
03-15-2011, 03:14 PM
Player of the Year: Paul Thompson, UNH
Rookie of the Year: Jordan Heywood, Merrimack
Defensive Defenseman: Matt Campanale, UNH
Defensive Forward: Ryan Flanigan, Merrimack
Coach of the Year: Mark Dennehy, Merrimack

First Team All Hockey East:
Paul Thompson, UNH
Cam Atkinson, BC
Gustav Nyquist, Maine
Brian Dumoulin, BC
Karl Stollery, MC
Joe Cannata, MC

Second Team All Hockey East:
Brian Gibbons, BC
Stephane Da Costa, MC
Wade MacLeod, NU
Dave Warsofsky, BU
Blake Kessel, UNH
John Muse, BC

All Rookie Team:
Mike Periera, UMass
Mike Collins, MC
Charlie Coyle, BU
Jordan Heywood, MC
Adam Clendening, BU
Dan Sullivan, Maine

Toughest calls (imo) are defensive forward and second team d. Thompson wins poty because Gibbons/Atkinson detract from each other in the eyes of voters.

Eaglefan06
03-15-2011, 03:22 PM
Player of the Year: Paul Thompson, UNH
Rookie of the Year: Jordan Heywood, Merrimack
Defensive Defenseman: Matt Campanale, UNH
Defensive Forward: Ryan Flanigan, Merrimack
Coach of the Year: Mark Dennehy, Merrimack

First Team All Hockey East:
Paul Thompson, UNH
Cam Atkinson, BC
Gustav Nyquist, Maine
Brian Dumoulin, BC
Karl Stollery, MC
Joe Cannata, MC

Second Team All Hockey East:
Brian Gibbons, BC
Stephane Da Costa, MC
Wade MacLeod, NU
Dave Warsofsky, BU
Blake Kessel, UNH
John Muse, BC

All Rookie Team:
Mike Periera, UMass
Mike Collins, MC
Charlie Coyle, BU
Jordan Heywood, MC
Adam Clendening, BU
Dan Sullivan, Maine

Toughest calls (imo) are defensive forward and second team d. Thompson wins poty because Gibbons/Atkinson detract from each other in the eyes of voters.

If Gibbons/Atkinson detract from each other so do Thompson/Sislo.

RockTheWhit
03-15-2011, 03:33 PM
If Gibbons/Atkinson detract from each other so do Thompson/Sislo.

While Gibbons and Atkinson are the two BEST forwards in the league, I don't think Sislo gets as much hype for poty as Gibbons. It'll probably be close, but I think Thompson wins it.

kcnuloyal
03-15-2011, 04:44 PM
Not to be a homer...but I'll go ahead and be a homer.

No love for Northeastern's Brodie Reid on the All Rookie Team? 11G, 17A...

Eaglefan06
03-16-2011, 03:46 PM
Who had:

All-Rookie Team
F: Bill Arnold, BC
F: Charlie Coyle, BU
F: Mike Collins, MC
F: Michael Pereira, UMass
F: Brodie Reid, NU
D: Anthony Bitetto, NU
D: Adam Clendening, BU
G: Dan Sullivan, Maine

Scoring Champion: Paul Thompson, UNH (Runner Up: Cam Atkinson, BC)
Goaltending Champion: John Muse, BC (Runner Up: Matt Di Girolamo, UNH)
Best Defensive Defensemen: Brian Dumonlin, BC (Runner Up: Jeff Van Dyk, Maine)
Best Defensive Forward: Tanner House, Maine (Runner Up: Barry Almeida, BC)
Sportsmanship Award: Brian Flynn, Maine (Runner Up: Chris Connelly, BU; Paul Dainton, UMass)
Turfer Athletic Award: Jeff Dimmen, Maine
Three Stars Award: Paul Thompson, UNH (Runner Up: Kieran Millan, BU)
Team Sportsmanship Award: New Hampshire

J.D.
03-16-2011, 03:56 PM
Stupid that they go with five forwards. Just pick three and make the others honorable mention. Also, if Sullivan was the best rookie goalie, might as well just leave that spot off the team entirely.

Nice to see Dumoulin win best dman as a sophomore.

RENCEB
03-16-2011, 07:53 PM
J.D., absolutely agree that selection of 5 forwards is stupid; especially if you are only going to pick 2 d. Omission of MC's rookie d-man Jordan Heywood is egregious. A couple of comparisons:

Clendening 17 pts, +6 and 74 penalty minutes (HE games only)
Bitetto 16 pts, E, and 40 PM's
Heywood 11 pts +18 (second among ALL HE D-men), and 37 PM's

RockTheWhit
03-16-2011, 08:09 PM
Is there no HE poty? Or are they waiting for the banquet to present it?

J.D.
03-16-2011, 08:54 PM
Is there no HE poty? Or are they waiting for the banquet to present it?

My guess is thompson

Muse, dumoulin and atkinson should all be on the 1st team

Eaglefan06
03-16-2011, 09:14 PM
J.D., absolutely agree that selection of 5 forwards is stupid; especially if you are only going to pick 2 d. Omission of MC's rookie d-man Jordan Heywood is egregious. A couple of comparisons:

Clendening 17 pts, +6 and 74 penalty minutes (HE games only)
Bitetto 16 pts, E, and 40 PM's
Heywood 11 pts +18 (second among ALL HE D-men), and 37 PM's

It's pretty well known that +/- is a terrible stat.

dmjossel
03-16-2011, 11:21 PM
It's pretty well known that +/- is a terrible stat.

It's well known that it is an imperfect stat-- but it's hardly alone in that respect.

Goals and assists are both worth 1 point, but sometimes the goal-scorer contributes more than the player scoring the assists, and sometimes the reverse is true. Players who score fewer points may be better than those who have more, depending on the quality of the team around them, the quality of the opposition, and ice time.

Power play percentages don't make sense given that an "opportunity" can be of varying lengths, and with the rule change that allows multiple goals to be scored during a major penalty, an infinite number of new "opportunities" are spawned, meaning a team whose powerplay would otherwise be considered "perfect" for scoring once for each penalty assessed and power play awarded now can never be.

Shots on goal can be pretty subjective, and vary from rink to rink, and "scoring chances" doesn't really exist, and is even more subjective.

How shall we assign postseason awards, then? Height and weight? At least we can be pretty sure of those.

Heywood is a very good defenseman. He plays smart and poised-- like an upperclassman. His decision-making is excellent. Whether +/- is a "terrible" stat or just an imperfect one, Heywood deserves recognition for his play, certainly as an all-rookie team selection if not also a 2nd All-HE team selection.

SteveF
03-16-2011, 11:33 PM
J.D., absolutely agree that selection of 5 forwards is stupid; especially if you are only going to pick 2 d. Omission of MC's rookie d-man Jordan Heywood is egregious. A couple of comparisons:

Clendening 17 pts, +6 and 74 penalty minutes (HE games only)
Bitetto 16 pts, E, and 40 PM's
Heywood 11 pts +18 (second among ALL HE D-men), and 37 PM's


these awards are stupid and they obviously only go by points. sadly, the AA awards are no different

Eaglefan06
03-16-2011, 11:51 PM
It's well known that it is an imperfect stat-- but it's hardly alone in that respect.

Goals and assists are both worth 1 point, but sometimes the goal-scorer contributes more than the player scoring the assists, and sometimes the reverse is true. Players who score fewer points may be better than those who have more, depending on the quality of the team around them, the quality of the opposition, and ice time.

Power play percentages don't make sense given that an "opportunity" can be of varying lengths, and with the rule change that allows multiple goals to be scored during a major penalty, an infinite number of new "opportunities" are spawned, meaning a team whose powerplay would otherwise be considered "perfect" for scoring once for each penalty assessed and power play awarded now can never be.

Shots on goal can be pretty subjective, and vary from rink to rink, and "scoring chances" doesn't really exist, and is even more subjective.

How shall we assign postseason awards, then? Height and weight? At least we can be pretty sure of those.

Heywood is a very good defenseman. He plays smart and poised-- like an upperclassman. His decision-making is excellent. Whether +/- is a "terrible" stat or just an imperfect one, Heywood deserves recognition for his play, certainly as an all-rookie team selection if not also a 2nd All-HE team selection.

I'm not arguing about Heywood's abilities or spot on the All-Rookie team, but he was clearly making a case based on +/- alone.