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dwollstadt
04-01-2011, 02:14 PM
With three new roster spots open. Who else may be coming in next year beside the anticipated; Norman, Cerretani, Leen, Rutt, and Higgins?

Do three new recruits get brought in or do three current recruits get moved up?

Swann Boisvert from Stanstead College (a Canadian prep school) has committed for next fall, according to a news release on the Stanstead website. This was reported on the UMaine recruit thread.

BoSox3066
04-01-2011, 02:50 PM
you cannot POSSIBLY be bringing the statistics into this when you fail to point out that his "lousy save percentage" was also the best of the 3.

I didnt say the other two had a right to complain about the coach did i?

Same Will ONeill that takes penalties for retaliation that draws Tim's ire is a Buddhist now? OK.

tylerzx2002
04-01-2011, 02:54 PM
With three new roster spots open. Who else may be coming in next year beside the anticipated; Norman, Cerretani, Leen, Rutt, and Higgins?

Do three new recruits get brought in or do three current recruits get moved up?

In addition to Boisvert, I've heard Cam Brown's name mentioned from someone in the admission's office. Not sure how reliable so take it FWIW.

DownEastblkbearfan
04-01-2011, 03:22 PM
So WHO is our next Nyquist, Purcell, Sweetland, Bishop....Who do we have to worry about jumping ship another year?!

rufus
04-01-2011, 04:18 PM
I was wondering whether Sirman jumped, or was he pushed. Now we know. I think he could be a pretty good goalie somehwere, if given the chance, and with some proper coaching. Some D-1 team ought to be able to use a guy like him.

So, TIMMAY's choice as the #1 goalie to start the season now becomes the scapegoat for the pizz-poor defense and goaltending coaching they got this season. What an astonishing judge of talent young TIMMAY is, cutting his #1 goalie because he just ain't good enough. TIMMAY's amazing, always finding someone to blame for his lousy coaching.

Shades of Lem Randall, gets a ton of ice time, including on the #1 PP unit, only to be cut once the season's over, while Theo Anderson spent all year sitting in the stands.

acs64
04-01-2011, 06:13 PM
I was wondering whether Sirman jumped, or was he pushed. Now we know. I think he could be a pretty good goalie somehwere, if given the chance, and with some proper coaching. Some D-1 team ought to be able to use a guy like him.

So, TIMMAY's choice as the #1 goalie to start the season now becomes the scapegoat for the pizz-poor defense and goaltending coaching they got this season. What an astonishing judge of talent young TIMMAY is, cutting his #1 goalie because he just ain't good enough. TIMMAY's amazing, always finding someone to blame for his lousy coaching.

Shades of Lem Randall, gets a ton of ice time, including on the #1 PP unit, only to be cut once the season's over, while Theo Anderson spent all year sitting in the stands.

I'm with ya on this issue Rufus.....I dont buy the Sirman is like Blodgett and cant cut it syndrome. Fact is, Whitehead again is demonstrating what a pizz poor manager of people and talent he is. Because of Whitehead's ineptness at handling people, his players ultimately end up paying the price while Whitehead lays the blame on anyone except himself. Sirman could have, should have been a solid goalie at Maine with proper coaching. Does Whitehead really think he's fooling anyone with his snake oil routine ?? Geeezus I do not like the way he operates.....dishonest.

KnowItAll
04-01-2011, 06:54 PM
I didnt say the other two had a right to complain about the coach did i?

Same Will ONeill that takes penalties for retaliation that draws Tim's ire is a Buddhist now? OK.

will is the one who jokes around.. the other three are very quiet

that said... I should not have come across as saying thta you were "wrong" you were right.. he had no right to complain, given his stats... but his stats do not tell the whole story and he had the best stats of the three (goalies who have NO D in front of them)

KnowItAll
04-01-2011, 06:57 PM
With three new roster spots open. Who else may be coming in next year beside the anticipated; Norman, Cerretani, Leen, Rutt, and Higgins?

Do three new recruits get brought in or do three current recruits get moved up?
surely there are unsigned members of the Manchest Jr Monarchs who would love to play at a quasi D1 hockey school.

someone asked who the next Purcell/Sweetland will be...
the well is running dry, the last excellent player to be be duped into coming to maine because of all those frozen fours is Joey Diamond... the last one... the last... there will be no more, not while Timmy passes the buck and does not help a soul

Ma#1ne Hky
04-01-2011, 08:48 PM
Whitehead will stick his own fork in himself by next year at this time....and I for one will be saying GOOD RIDDANCE. SAVE Maine Hockey.

lkenney
04-01-2011, 09:08 PM
If Van Dyke is in the game for the Abbotsford Heat tonight, he'll be playing against Gustav. Pretty cool.

UncleRay
04-01-2011, 09:50 PM
Didn't read the article on the front page, but it is about the emergence of NoDak's 'tender due to - you guessed it - a goalie coach. Imagine that!

KnowItAll
04-01-2011, 10:03 PM
If Van Dyke is in the game for the Abbotsford Heat tonight, he'll be playing against Gustav. Pretty cool.

Tanner put one in against Rockford tonight... Jimmy Hayes and Ben Smith got he minus... Tanner assisted on another goal as well, bringing his season plus minus into the plus.

Fishman'81
04-02-2011, 03:10 AM
. TIMMAY's amazing, always finding someone to blame for his lousy coaching.

Shades of Lem Randall, gets a ton of ice time, including on the #1 PP unit, only to be cut once the season's over, while Theo Anderson spent all year sitting in the stands.

(I don't know about Lem;to my eye,he was another one of Tim's never-gonna-pan-out recruits...Just another semi-talented grinder.)

But I heartily agree with you on your other point.The one thing that sticks in my craw the most is how Whitehead never seems to assume any public responsibility for his team's failures.I would be much more willing to accept where Maine hockey is right now if the head coach would say "my bad" once in a while,instead of laying the blame on a group of 18-23 YOs that he's supposed to be in charge of.

Tim can't handle the job he has,and he's pretty much stealing from the university every time he collects his bloated paycheck.I have to wonder how he convinces himself that he deserves the money.I really do.

Ma#1ne Hky
04-02-2011, 05:30 AM
(I don't know about Lem;to my eye,he was another one of Tim's never-gonna-pan-out recruits...Just another semi-talented grinder.)

But I heartily agree with you on your other point.The one thing that sticks in my craw the most is how Whitehead never seems to assume any public responsibility for his team's failures.I would be much more willing to accept where Maine hockey is right now if the head coach would say "my bad" once in a while,instead of laying the blame on a group of 18-23 YOs that he's supposed to be in charge of.

Tim can't handle the job he has,and he's pretty much stealing from the university every time he collects his bloated paycheck.I have to wonder how he convinces himself that he deserves the money.I really do. It's pretty easy for him: ARROGANT...SAVE Maine Hockey/DUMP Whitehead.

walrus
04-02-2011, 05:32 AM
I'm with ya on this issue Rufus.....I dont buy the Sirman is like Blodgett and cant cut it syndrome. .
I never thought Sirman was a D1 goalie, no truly competitive goalie looks at the bench wanting to get pulled in a playoff game. He was recruited late in the summer after Bish left. He may have gotten better with a real coach but guess what it appears Maine hasn't got one. No goalie has improved since Grant left

fiqure8
04-02-2011, 12:22 PM
I never thought Sirman was a D1 goalie, no truly competitive goalie looks at the bench wanting to get pulled in a playoff game. He was recruited late in the summer after Bish left. He may have gotten better with a real coach but guess what it appears Maine hasn't got one. No goalie has improved since Grant left

Found this interesting............maybe discontentment amongst the ranks ?.........another reason to trim the goalie roster to 3? Forcing Timmy's hand? From Station Nation website St John Sea Dogs

http://stationnation.blogspot.com/2010/12/another-goalie-rumor-surfaces.html


TUESDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2010

ANOTHER GOALIE RUMOR SURFACES

Sunday, Sports Juniors reported that the Saint John Sea Dogs were rumored to be interested in an 18-year old goaltender currently playing in the United States.

Today, the website says that the goaltender in question is Martin Ouellette who is currently playing with the NCAA’s University of Maine Black Bears. Ouellette was a seventh round pick of the Columbus Blue Jackets in the 2010 National Hockey League Entry Draft.

The Quebec born goaltender, who turns 19 on December 30, has played in just three games for Maine this season, going 1-1-1 with a 2.25 goals against average and a .908 save percentage.

According to Hockey’s Future, in 2009-10 “as a senior at Kimball Union Academy in New Hampshire, Ouellette played 27 games with a 1.61 goals against average and .925 save percentage.”

Here is the Hockey’s Future scouting report on the netminder:

Ouellette is a very calm goaltender. He plays with a tremendous amount of poise for his age. He's good at cutting down angles and challenging shooters, and he's also a fairly adept puck handler for a goalie. Consistency is his glaring weakness as he's known for occasionally allowing a soft goal.
This rumor certainly comes out of left field. It makes sense for the Sea Dogs to go after a non-overage goaltender, but it is rare for a Canadian junior team to dip into the NCAA mid-season and grab one.

A Bangor Daily News article written on December 13th doesn’t have any indication that Ouellette is leaving the Bears program in the second half.

“One of the big positives is we’ve learned a lot about our team,” said Maine coach Tim Whitehead about the first half of the season. “We’ve started to get clarity in our goaltending position. It has been solidifying. Dan Sullivan has been our most consistent goaltender and has played the bulk of games. But Martin Ouellette has come on very strong and shown tremendous improvement and promise. And you can’t rule Shawn Sirman out of the mix, either.”

If true and Ouellette will be arriving on the scene, it likely means the end of Jacob DeSerres’ time in Saint John. DeSerres has been very good for the Dogs but continues a rotation with Frederic Piche for net duties. With DeSerres being a 20-year old and only playing half of the games, it isn’t the best use of an overage slot.

Sports Juniors continues to bring up the possibility of an overage defenseman coming to Saint John in Steven Delisle or Yann Sauve - who are both Sea Dogs property. Delisle is reportedly out for several weeks if not the whole season because of shoulder issues while Sauve is a bit of a mystery. The Manitoba Moose recalled the Vancouver Canucks prospect last week from the East Coast Hockey League.

The Dogs have some time to work things out as they do not play again until December 28th in Charlottetown. The QMJHL trade deadline is January 6.

amherstblackbear
04-02-2011, 12:30 PM
Of all the things to criticize Whitehead for . . . letting Sirman go is not one of them. Especially if that story has any truth to it.

Of course, Whitehead contributed to the problem by giving scholarships to 3 young goalies. (Each had at least a partial, right?)

We'll know we've seen a Whitehead if Sirman is told to pack his bags and Ouellette bolts the team anyway. :D

walrus
04-02-2011, 12:30 PM
Found this interesting............maybe discontentment amongst the ranks ?.........another reason to trim the goalie roster to 3? Forcing Timmy's hand? From Station Nation website St John Sea Dogs

http://stationnation.blogspot.com/2010/12/another-goalie-rumor-surfaces.html

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Martin leaving for Major Jr is a rumor thats been around for awhile. Can't blame the kid if he wants more playing time

BoSox3066
04-02-2011, 12:31 PM
that said... I should not have come across as saying thta you were "wrong" you were right.. he had no right to complain, given his stats... but his stats do not tell the whole story and he had the best stats of the three (goalies who have NO D in front of them)

Sirman at UNH on the Saturday night was the worst performance I think I've ever seen by a purported D1 goalie. I just don't see him turning it around. He doesn't pass the smell test for me.

The D was bad most of the year....but it was the soft goals that killed the team. You could see them hang their heads...they weren't mentally tough enough to overcome another softy. Part of that is on the leadership group (tim, captains) but as a goalie you need to be able to make a timely save when the opponent has seized momentum. Sirman, more than the other 2, appeared incapable of doing that.

As the goalie coach goes...is this where Maine's location hurts? Boston teams can have volunteer goalie coaches because they have jobs in the area and its a metropolis. Who are the goalie coaches up that way? Are there 100 goalies programs to choose from for high schoolers and kids in youth hockey in the Bangor area? There's gotta be something....and if not, Tim needs to get a real goalie guy in Kerluke's spot, yesterday.

AMC
04-02-2011, 12:58 PM
Martin leaving for Major Jr is a rumor thats been around for awhile. Can't blame the kid if he wants more playing time

That article was from December. One would assume (hope?) that Whitehead would have chatted with Ouellette re: his future plans before dumping Sirman.