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dave1381
03-06-2011, 07:50 PM
This bracket is upsetting in many ways, but one clear problem that deserves NCAA attention is the perverse incentives created by the system of seeding only the top 4 teams and pairing the rest by geography.

If Wisconsin lost Saturday, likely the Gophers would have been the No. 4 seed and quarterfinal host. Given the obligation to pair UMD with Minnesota or Wisconsin, there's a good chance the NCAA may have chosen to pair UMD with Minnesota instead. The bracket would have likely been

Dartmouth @ Wisconsin
UMD @ Minnesota

BC @ BU
Mercyhurst @ Cornell

Wisconsin has clearly been punished with a superior opponent for winning its conference championship. Do we want teams to strategically throw games next year?

ARM
03-06-2011, 07:53 PM
Wisconsin has clearly been punished with a superior opponent for winning its conference championship. Do we want teams to strategically throw games next year?Not teams in general, but any time Wisconsin plays Minnesota, I think that the Badgers should lose the game just to be on the safe side. ;)

OnMAA
03-06-2011, 11:08 PM
Wisconsin has clearly been punished with a superior opponent for winning its conference championship. Do we want teams to strategically throw games next year?

Nope...Losing on purpose always comes back to hound you. Fiver would call it Hockey Voodoo.....Besides, who in his right mind would want to lose a league final on purpose.....One bird in the hand is better then none at all.

D2D
03-07-2011, 12:34 AM
Nope...Losing on purpose always comes back to hound you. Fiver would call it Hockey Voodoo.....Besides, who in his right mind would want to lose a league final on purpose.....One bird in the hand is better then none at all.

I totally agree that no self-respecting coach and team would ever want to purposely lose a league final. HOWEVER, I can see where a team may not have quite the same incentive to win knowing that a loss couldn't hurt - and may possibly even help - in terms of which team they would play in the NCAA quarterfinal. Just a slight loss of a will to win could have an impact.

papulaisle
03-07-2011, 06:32 PM
Agree-do not want to dis-incentivise...

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