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hockeyenthusiast
02-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Just read the Meghan Acosta story and was wondering who it is for the men.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Dave Rost, played at Army from 1974-1977, put up 330 points in his career (104 goals, 226 assists).

IrishHockeyFan
02-23-2011, 05:43 PM
Dave Rost, played at Army from 1974-1977, put up 330 points in his career (104 goals, 226 assists).

I thought it was Tom Ross, but the IHDb has him with 319 points.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-23-2011, 05:44 PM
I thought it was Tom Ross, but the IHDb has him with 319 points.

The NCAA Record Book puts Tom Ross at 324 points.

IrishHockeyFan
02-23-2011, 08:19 PM
The NCAA Record Book puts Tom Ross at 324 points.

I think that's what MSU says as well. While a useful resource, I have found similar discrepincies among the listed statistics of some Notre Dame players on the IHDb.

LTsatch
02-23-2011, 08:20 PM
Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties? This is copied and pasted (badly) from the ECAC online record book



Player, Team Years Games G A Pts.
Dave Rost, Army.............................................1 974-77 114 104 226 330
Tom Ross, Michigan St. ...................................1973-76 — 138 186 324
Mike Zuke, Michigan Tech.................................1973-76 163 133 177 310
Jim Montgomery, Maine....................................1990-93 170 103 198 301
Steve Colp, Michigan St. .................................1973-76 — 132 168 300
John Mayasich, Minnesota................................1952-55 111 144 154 298
Nelson Emerson, Bowling Green.........................1987-90 178 112 182 294
Dan Dorion, Western Mich................................1983-86 — 115 178 293
Tom Rost, Army.............................................. 1977-80 115 118 169 287
Dave Delich, Colorado Col. ...............................1976-79 153 111 174 285
Brendan Morrison, Michigan..............................1994-97 155 102 182 284
Chuck Delich, Air Force...................................1974-77 109 156 123 279
Jim Dowd, Lake Superior St. ............................1988-91 — 91 183 274
Greg Johnson, North Dakota.............................1990-93 — 74 198 272
Paul Polillo, Western Mich. ..............................1987-90 165 82 189 271
Steve Moria, Alas. Fairbanks............................1983-85 86 108 163 271
Lance Nethery, Cornell....................................1976-79 111 91 180 271
Paul Pooley, Ohio St.......................................1981-84 149 114 156 270
Brian Hills, Bowling Green.................................1980-83 156 116 154 270
Pat Micheletti, Minnesota................................1983-86 162 120 149 269
Martin St. Louis, Vermont................................1994-97 139 91 176 267
George McPhee, Bowling Green.........................1979-82 153 114 153 267
Mike Eaves, Wisconsin...................................1975-78 160 94 173 267
Dallas Gaume, Denver.....................................1983-86 145 78 188 266
George Clark, Army.........................................1972-75 109 135 131 266

Happy
02-23-2011, 09:46 PM
Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties? This is copied and pasted (badly) from the ECAC online record book



Player, Team Years Games G A Pts.
Dave Rost, Army.............................................1 974-77 114 104 226 330
Tom Ross, Michigan St. ...................................1973-76 138 186 324
Mike Zuke, Michigan Tech.................................1973-76 163 133 177 310
Jim Montgomery, Maine....................................1990-93 170 103 198 301
Steve Colp, Michigan St. .................................1973-76 132 168 300
John Mayasich, Minnesota................................1952-55 111 144 154 298
Nelson Emerson, Bowling Green.........................1987-90 178 112 182 294
Dan Dorion, Western Mich................................1983-86 115 178 293
Tom Rost, Army.............................................. 1977-80 115 118 169 287
Dave Delich, Colorado Col. ...............................1976-79 153 111 174 285
Brendan Morrison, Michigan..............................1994-97 155 102 182 284
Chuck Delich, Air Force...................................1974-77 109 156 123 279
Jim Dowd, Lake Superior St. ............................1988-91 91 183 274
Greg Johnson, North Dakota.............................1990-93 74 198 272
Paul Polillo, Western Mich. ..............................1987-90 165 82 189 271
Steve Moria, Alas. Fairbanks............................1983-85 86 108 163 271
Lance Nethery, Cornell....................................1976-79 111 91 180 271
Paul Pooley, Ohio St.......................................1981-84 149 114 156 270
Brian Hills, Bowling Green.................................1980-83 156 116 154 270
Pat Micheletti, Minnesota................................1983-86 162 120 149 269
Martin St. Louis, Vermont................................1994-97 139 91 176 267
George McPhee, Bowling Green.........................1979-82 153 114 153 267
Mike Eaves, Wisconsin...................................1975-78 160 94 173 267
Dallas Gaume, Denver.....................................1983-86 145 78 188 266
George Clark, Army.........................................1972-75 109 135 131 266

Sure, the goalies are better, and the defenses are better, too.


and, the good players never stay 4 years anymore, either.

Puck Swami
02-23-2011, 09:52 PM
The most interesting scorer to me is Phil Latreille, who played for Middlebury in early 60s, and was only allowed to play three years, as freshmen weren't eligible. In those days before the NCAA broke into D-I, D-II and D-III, Middlebury played many teams each season that remain D-I schools today. Oh, and the guy scored nearly 300 points in 3 years and had 80 goals as a senior! If he had an extra year....

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=10754

MaizeRage
02-23-2011, 09:55 PM
Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties?

1. Better coached--and bigger--goalies
2.Better defensive systems
3. Deeper talent pool.

I remember Brendan Morrison playing in a lot of 10-0 and 12-1 games back in the day. It's pretty rare to see a game that lopsided these days.

du78
02-23-2011, 09:58 PM
Goalies are better for two reasons: the light, large equipment they wear now and the large size of many of them. Look at some pictures of the goalies from the 1970s, they all had the leather pads and most were on the smallish size as they were generally thought to be quicker. The didn't cover nearly as much net as the large athletic goalies do today.

Also players did not shot block like they do today. Again, the newer more protective equipment including the full face masks make putting yourself in the line of fire much easier than back in the day.

AnchorsAway
02-23-2011, 10:47 PM
Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties? This is copied and pasted (badly) from the ECAC online record book



Player, Team Years Games G A Pts.
Dave Rost, Army.............................................1 974-77 114 104 226 330
Tom Ross, Michigan St. ...................................1973-76 138 186 324
Mike Zuke, Michigan Tech.................................1973-76 163 133 177 310
Jim Montgomery, Maine....................................1990-93 170 103 198 301
Steve Colp, Michigan St. .................................1973-76 132 168 300
John Mayasich, Minnesota................................1952-55 111 144 154 298
Nelson Emerson, Bowling Green.........................1987-90 178 112 182 294
Dan Dorion, Western Mich................................1983-86 115 178 293
Tom Rost, Army.............................................. 1977-80 115 118 169 287
Dave Delich, Colorado Col. ...............................1976-79 153 111 174 285
Brendan Morrison, Michigan..............................1994-97 155 102 182 284
Chuck Delich, Air Force...................................1974-77 109 156 123 279
Jim Dowd, Lake Superior St. ............................1988-91 91 183 274
Greg Johnson, North Dakota.............................1990-93 74 198 272
Paul Polillo, Western Mich. ..............................1987-90 165 82 189 271
Steve Moria, Alas. Fairbanks............................1983-85 86 108 163 271
Lance Nethery, Cornell....................................1976-79 111 91 180 271
Paul Pooley, Ohio St.......................................1981-84 149 114 156 270
Brian Hills, Bowling Green.................................1980-83 156 116 154 270
Pat Micheletti, Minnesota................................1983-86 162 120 149 269
Martin St. Louis, Vermont................................1994-97 139 91 176 267
George McPhee, Bowling Green.........................1979-82 153 114 153 267
Mike Eaves, Wisconsin...................................1975-78 160 94 173 267
Dallas Gaume, Denver.....................................1983-86 145 78 188 266
George Clark, Army.........................................1972-75 109 135 131 266

A bunch of those guys played in the 80s, look at how lackluster the goalies look in the NHL highlights of the 80s and then remember that those were the best in the world lol...Always good to see a Laker on a list like this:)....I didn't realize Paul Polillo had such an illustrious college career at Western, he had an interesting minor league career, I grew up in Port Huron, Michigan in the 90s and the Port Huron minor league team at that time played in a league that changed its name a bunch of times (Colonial Hockey League, United Hockey League, etc.)..Polillo played for a team out of Brantford, Ontario before later coming to Port Huron's team...anyways, he put up 150+ point seasons with regularity in that league throughout the 90s and I always found it somewhat interesting that (from the best of my knowledge) he never really got much of a look in a higher level league, he had average size and from what I remember was a pretty good skater, I could never figure that one out:confused:

Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau
02-24-2011, 10:02 AM
[QUOTE=LTsatch;5047858]Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties?
parity - zee week sisteurs ave growed up
betteur goalie, biggeur pad - pad use to be to protect de goalie, now dey pour elping de goalie
coaching to much defence - you cant coach a guy to be Paul Kariya, mais you can coach heem to ang back in de nutral zone
et simple fiziks - de playeur getting biggeur et fasteur eveury year mais de rink staying de same size

Biddco
02-24-2011, 11:12 AM
I wonder who has scored the most goals in a season? Who has had the most total points? Most assists?

Based on what I've read here there could be large discrepancies in number of games played back in the day.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-24-2011, 11:26 AM
I wonder who has scored the most goals in a season? Who has had the most total points? Most assists?

Based on what I've read here there could be large discrepancies in number of games played back in the day.

Goals in a season - Mike Donnelly - Michigan State (59 in 1985-1986 season)
Points in a season - Tony Hrkac - North Dakota (116 in 1986-1987 season)
Assists in a season - Wayne Gagne - Western Michigan (76 in 1986-1987 season)
Points per game - Frank Chiarelli - RPI (4.39 in 1951-1952 season)

4four4
02-24-2011, 11:37 AM
Any reason why no one has made the list since the mid nineties? This is copied and pasted (badly) from the ECAC online record book



Player, Team Years Games G A Pts.
Dave Rost, Army.............................................1 974-77 114 104 226 330
Tom Ross, Michigan St. ...................................1973-76 — 138 186 324
Mike Zuke, Michigan Tech.................................1973-76 163 133 177 310
Jim Montgomery, Maine....................................1990-93 170 103 198 301
Steve Colp, Michigan St. .................................1973-76 — 132 168 300
John Mayasich, Minnesota................................1952-55 111 144 154 298
Nelson Emerson, Bowling Green.........................1987-90 178 112 182 294
Dan Dorion, Western Mich................................1983-86 — 115 178 293
Tom Rost, Army.............................................. 1977-80 115 118 169 287
Dave Delich, Colorado Col. ...............................1976-79 153 111 174 285
Brendan Morrison, Michigan..............................1994-97 155 102 182 284
Chuck Delich, Air Force...................................1974-77 109 156 123 279
Jim Dowd, Lake Superior St. ............................1988-91 — 91 183 274
Greg Johnson, North Dakota.............................1990-93 — 74 198 272
Paul Polillo, Western Mich. ..............................1987-90 165 82 189 271
Steve Moria, Alas. Fairbanks............................1983-85 86 108 163 271
Lance Nethery, Cornell....................................1976-79 111 91 180 271
Paul Pooley, Ohio St.......................................1981-84 149 114 156 270
Brian Hills, Bowling Green.................................1980-83 156 116 154 270
Pat Micheletti, Minnesota................................1983-86 162 120 149 269
Martin St. Louis, Vermont................................1994-97 139 91 176 267
George McPhee, Bowling Green.........................1979-82 153 114 153 267
Mike Eaves, Wisconsin...................................1975-78 160 94 173 267
Dallas Gaume, Denver.....................................1983-86 145 78 188 266
George Clark, Army.........................................1972-75 109 135 131 266

Mayasich owned the record for a long time. I bet his points per game is still the all time best. IMO, he is the greatest college hockey player of all time.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-24-2011, 11:42 AM
Mayasich owned the record for a long time. I bet his points per game is still the all time best. IMO, he is the greatest college hockey player of all time.

He's about 10th. He averaged a little less than 2.7/game. There are a handful of guys who have averaged more than 3/game.

Hokydad
02-24-2011, 12:23 PM
How about PC's Ron Wilson. 250 points from 73-77 and 87 pts in 74/75 season..

And he was a dman.....

I doubt any other D were close.

And he did it in 111 games, which is less than 3 years in todays world.

defkit
02-24-2011, 01:19 PM
It's a little surprising that there are no BU or BC players on the list, given their program's success. John Cullen ended up with 241 for BU, and I think Dave Emma is in the same range (Did Gionta pass him?). I think Shawn McEachern ended up with 188 after three years, so 54 more as a Senior would have broken Cullen's record (he had 82 as a junior, so even with a big drop, he had a good shot.)

I remember Montogomery's years well. :mad:I also remember Shawn Walsh being pretty livid when Dave Sacco was named All-American over him, despite having about 30 less points.:D

Chickens@NU
02-24-2011, 01:43 PM
Few things with regards to the NCAA record book... These questions are coming from the newest record book (2010-2011) too....

How can CC own the longest losing streak at 31 games yet they also own the longest winless streak (from the same time frame) and that is 2 games shorter than the longest losing streak?

Theissen owns a career sv% of .922 yet doesn't show up in the NCAA records that go down to .920....

There were some others but i don't wanna keep looking....

So how do we know what of these records is legit? Just wondering....

XYZ
02-24-2011, 02:06 PM
The most interesting scorer to me is Phil Latreille, who played for Middlebury in early 60s, and was only allowed to play three years, as freshmen weren't eligible. In those days before the NCAA broke into D-I, D-II and D-III, Middlebury played many teams each season that remain D-I schools today. Oh, and the guy scored nearly 300 points in 3 years and had 80 goals as a senior! If he had an extra year....

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=10754


Joey Ferras is another out of the current DIII ranks. 359 points.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1658