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DrDemento
02-26-2011, 11:19 AM
BTW I agree with WS 1000%

And i totally agree with your post and Wicked's. Before the seaon I predicted 20 regular season wins and I'm sticking with it. We do not play ECAC style and perhaps won't for some time. But we are a good team that is currently going through a bit of the doldrums(due to injury, fatigue, what have you). We need to play well and win tonight for lots of reasons-even if Yale and Union do not help us-we need to end the season on a strong performance. The playoffs are a whole new ballgame. We get a home series regardles-and of coure I had hoped it would be a bye series. We have lost an awful lot of one goal or OT games this season-we are that close.

troyboy
02-26-2011, 04:25 PM
I agree with 99% of this. I mildly disagree with your Union bashing...(sorry couldn't resist :p)

They are an excellent hockey team...#1 scoring def., #2 scoring off., #1 in GA, and most notably for me, they are 10th in penalty minutes. That's math even a non-engineer like me can understand: If you score a lot, don't allow many and you stay out of the box, you are a very good hockey team...

That's said, I hope to h e l l they flame out in the 2nd round...:D Agreed the U is an excellent team but man for man Yale IMO is more talented by quite a bit but they find themselves in a dog fight for first place.It's all about defense,putting the puck on net and scrappy goals not my cup of tea but thats the formula.I don't personaly like that type of game and would rather play the way we do but we need to develop some type of hybrid version of that type of play btw we are not alone...none other than the Washington Capitals are struggling w/the same situation...They will figure it out and so will we.I believe the next 2 incoming classes are kinda under the radar a bit...they consist of not just top quality players but more importantly what I consider "pieces to the puzzle"...Battle stations everyone !!!!

AspyDad
02-26-2011, 05:25 PM
I think both you and tb are right. Union is good but if they go in the tourney they will do the Cornell deal where they go out quick. They do so because they are built for that rinky dink rink in Schdy and when they go to neutral site they will get run up and down the ice IMO. For the folks pushing the panic button on SA he is right on track and in with the big boys competing for big time recruits. He's well prepared and knows what he is doing. this team has done more than I thought it would but let's win tonight and see where it all lays.

AspyDad
02-26-2011, 05:27 PM
BTW - there was a spotting of Babo in the capital region. Someone lay the red carpet up hoosick st. for her.

RPIcrank
02-26-2011, 07:22 PM
I'm not sure of the NCAA tourney selections ... but assuming the Atlantic Hockey winner gets a bid, that would leave 15 spots. Assuming no sub-16 teams win their leagues then 1-15 get NCAA bids. RPI appears to be on the NCAA bubble at 14.

Of course, RPI needs to win tonight. Unfortunately, the end of the year downslide looks just like last year's season ending 2-5-1 run. I think we'd all like to see them make an NCAA appearance. I recall those years of Joel Laing teams just missing at the #13, #14 position (only 12 teams making the NCAA tourney).

If RPI defeats Q tonight, it appears that Q may be out as a TUC for now. Would a first round win and quarterfinal loss get them back? Does anyone know how badly RPI needs Q to be a TUC? Any chance that a loss tonight and first round loss could remove Cornell as a TUC?

Of course, again RPI needs to win, win, win. Let's go red!

DrDemento
02-26-2011, 09:27 PM
Bit of a disappointing tie tonight. We just never played with desperation even in the OT. We get Colgate next week and they played us very tough both times this year. I still think we are a very good team but something has been lacking the past 3 weeks. Injuries? Illness? Some lack of motivation? Not sure-but our offense has suffered and most of our scoring has had to come from the underclasses. Hope we can turn this around in the next week of practice. Go Red!

Waite21
02-26-2011, 09:47 PM
I thought that the tie-breakers would leave RPI seeded sixth.

If that's true, wouldn't we be playing 11th seed SLU, rather than 12th seed Colgate? :confused:

DrDemento
02-26-2011, 10:08 PM
I thought that the tie-breakers would leave RPI seeded sixth.

If that's true, wouldn't we be playing 11th seed SLU, rather than 12th seed Colgate? :confused:

We tie with Princeton-but win the tie break based on record against the top 4 teams. So we finish 5th officially.

JCrawford
02-26-2011, 10:12 PM
I thought that the tie-breakers would leave RPI seeded sixth.

If that's true, wouldn't we be playing 11th seed SLU, rather than 12th seed Colgate? :confused:

Cornell wins the first tiebreak due to their 2-0 record against RPI, and gets 4th place.

Then between Princeton and RPI, this series was split, so onto the 2nd tie breaker (league wins). 11 each, so onto the 3rd tie breaker, record against top 4.

Princeton had a record of 1-7 against the top 4 teams (split series with Cornell, lost all other games to Union, Yale, and Dartmouth).

Rensselaer's record against the top 4 was 4-4, thanks to splits against Union and Yale, sweeping Dartmouth, and getting swept by Cornell.

Thus, Rensselaer wins this tie break and ends up in 5th. Princeton seeded 6th.

FlagDUDE08
02-26-2011, 10:16 PM
Next week we are playing Colgate. I said back in December that I REALLY do not want to play this team come playoffs because of what has happened in the past couple of years with the basement teams. My worst fears have come true. The road is bumpy, but I still think we can do it.

burgie12
02-26-2011, 10:17 PM
We tie with Princeton-but win the tie break based on record against the top 4 teams. So we finish 5th officially.
We tied with Cornell and Princeton. We lose the head-to-head record 6 (CU) v 4 (PU) v 2 (RPI). But, the ECAC tiebreaker scenario says that the top team is separated from everyone else that they're tied with and then the tiebreaker steps are restarted. That's why we're not in 6th place. (We win the tiebreaker against Princeton based on Points vs Top 4 teams (8 v 2).)

rpi82
02-26-2011, 10:48 PM
Just got back from watching Yale rout Cornell. The game was close early as Yale controlled play but couldn't score. They broke it open in the 2nd, and after they flashed up the Union 3 Princeton 0 score during the 2nd intermission, I was thinking "home ice here we come." Then they put up the Quinnipiac 2 RPI 2 score and I loudly uttered a word that would have gotten my mouth washed out with soap as a kid. Unfortunately the band had just stopped playing so anyone within about 10 seats in any direction heard me.

Oh well, despite our performance against them this season Cornell is definitely beatable so if the Engineers take care of business against Colgate they will still have a good chance to advance to AC.

BTW: Hicks was refereeing and I guess I haven't forgiven him because I spent half the game watching for him to blow a call. He actually called a pretty good game, although there was a charging call on Yale late in the game that I thought was questionable.

LTsatch
02-27-2011, 12:03 AM
although there was a charging call on Yale late in the game that I thought was questionable.

That was a great, hard and legal hit by Cahill, the puck had just left the Cornell players stick, terrible call.

cornellgradyalefan
02-27-2011, 12:28 AM
You guys do a great job on this board. We have a good group also, although not nearly as large as yours. Regarding your comments on Union, they deserved to win the Cup because they were the most consistent team during the 2nd half of the season, but if you ask me which team I would not want Yale to face in AC, I would answer RPI, hands down. Having said that, I am puzzled why your season has gone downhill so dramatically, right after beating Yale at the freak out.

Beman
02-27-2011, 12:43 AM
although not nearly as large as yours. I am puzzled why your season has gone downhill so dramatically, right after beating Yale at the freak out.

I can't understand why yours is not as large as ours either.

GRussinko
02-27-2011, 12:51 AM
I can't understand why yours is not as large as ours either.

Bazinga.

troyboy
02-27-2011, 03:06 AM
You guys do a great job on this board. We have a good group also, although not nearly as large as yours. Regarding your comments on Union, they deserved to win the Cup because they were the most consistent team during the 2nd half of the season, but if you ask me which team I would not want Yale to face in AC, I would answer RPI, hands down. Having said that, I am puzzled why your season has gone downhill so dramatically, right after beating Yale at the freak out.

If you want my guess I think we have been in so many close games this year we go to a short bench in almost every game...we run 2 defense pairings and 2 1/2 lines because Chase double shifts on the third line for a large chunk of the third period trying to catch up,in fact tonight we killed a full 2:00 5 on 3 with the same 2 defensemen on the ice for the entire kill...I think its a matter of our key players just being flat out gassed.We have some high end recruits coming in the next 2 years and that should address that problem.It remains to be seen how much we miss Chase but I believe(hope) depth will compensate.Then after next year York is gone but it looks like our current back up is ready for prime time.You can count on 1 hand the number of games that we just put away a team and won easy...that I believe has taken its toll.With us its never easy no matter who the opponent is.Thats why the buy week would have been a huge get for us but we just couldn't take care of business.The good news is before SA arrived a good season was if we got home ice for the first round of the playoffs now we are dissappointed that we didn't get a buy even after loseing 2 impact players to the pro's(which caused our depth issue).IMO the program is on the upswing and our hope is that we get better and better each year and be disappointed when we don't win the Cleary Cup and only get a buy !!!

DrDemento
02-27-2011, 07:56 AM
I can't understand why yours is not as large as ours either.

Thread envy?

DrDemento
02-27-2011, 08:04 AM
If you want my guess I think we have been in so many close games this year we go to a short bench in almost every game...we run 2 defense pairings and 2 1/2 lines because Chase double shifts on the third line for a large chunk of the third period trying to catch up,in fact tonight we killed a full 2:00 5 on 3 with the same 2 defensemen on the ice for the entire kill...I think its a matter of our key players just being flat out gassed.We have some high end recruits coming in the next 2 years and that should address that problem.It remains to be seen how much we miss Chase but I believe(hope) depth will compensate.Then after next year York is gone but it looks like our current back up is ready for prime time.You can count on 1 hand the number of games that we just put away a team and won easy...that I believe has taken its toll.With us its never easy no matter who the opponent is.Thats why the buy week would have been a huge get for us but we just couldn't take care of business.The good news is before SA arrived a good season was if we got home ice for the first round of the playoffs now we are dissappointed that we didn't get a buy even after loseing 2 impact players to the pro's(which caused our depth issue).IMO the program is on the upswing and our hope is that we get better and better each year and be disappointed when we don't win the Cleary Cup and only get a buy !!!

All very sensible-add to that fact we never really were much above a .500 team in ECAC games even when we were flying against the out of conference schedule. At the break I believe we were only 3-3 in the ECAC. All of our ECAC wins were pretty close and the cardiac kids pulled some out that they almost did not. Add to that some injuries to key players late in the season and a few players with either illness or just plain out of gas and you have just enough wrong to lose the close ones instead of winning them. The key to me was the last 2 weekends at home. Losing to Colgate and Cornell in OT and losing to Princeton by 1 goal and getting a tie with QU. Those were 4 games we needed more points in and missed each time by 1 goal. Colgate will not be easy in the playoffs and they certainly are a team not many want to play right now-but so are we. A healthy RPI can beat anyone at anytime and i am pretty sure that the ECAC leaders Yale and Union would like very much for us not to be a team they have to face in AC if they get there. With most of the recent scoring coming from the underclassmen-I actually think we can be a better team in the playoffs-but only if the seniors can get back whatever it was they had going for them earlier this season. Just an old fan's 2

DrDemento
02-27-2011, 08:07 AM
As of this morning we are 13th in PWR. I will wait for WaP's explanation this week as to who we need to root for in the playoffs around the country-Obviously we need to beat Colgate. But will be interested to see who we root for in the various matchups.