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PrezdeJohnson09
02-13-2011, 11:50 AM
1.Oswego
2.St. Norbert
3.Norwich
4.Castleton
5.Adrian
6.Elmira
7.MSOE
8.Plattsburgh
9.Geneseo
10.Utica
11.Williams
12.Manhattanville
13.Hamline
14.Middlebury
15.Hamilton

1985
02-13-2011, 12:00 PM
1.Norwich
2.Adrian
3.Oswego
4.St.Norbert
5.Elmira
6.Castleton
7.MSOE
8.Plattsburgh
9.Geneseo
10.Utica
11.Williams
12.Manhattanville
13.Hamline
14.Middlebury
15.Hamilton

Stormy8174
02-13-2011, 02:24 PM
1.Norwich
2.Adrian
3.Oswego
4.St.Norbert
5.Elmira
6.Castleton
7.MSOE
8.Plattsburgh
9.Geneseo
10.Utica
11.Williams
12.Manhattanville
13.Hamline
14.Middlebury
15.Hamilton

I highly doubt that Norwich and Adrian will take over 1st and 2nd from Oswego and St. Norbert. I see why you might be thinking this but its hard to believe. Although Adrian picked up 4 points this weekend, they got them from an awful Concordia team. Norwich was a bit more respectful beating Castleton, but for them it should have been expected. Skidmore seems average? St. Norbert picked up 2 of 4 points over the weekend. Which leaves Oswego, who was the only team to play one game over the weekend of these teams. They lose to Morrisville, an opponent that although not being ranked has seemed to have proven themselves time and time again. Remember that they have wins over Geneseo and Plattsburgh IN Plattsburgh as well, among a few other big wins. At most I think Norwich steals some votes but the top does not change to much.

1-Oswego
1-St. Norbert
3-Norwich
4-Castleton
5-Adrian

bakdraft21
02-13-2011, 02:33 PM
I highly doubt that Norwich and Adrian will take over 1st and 2nd from Oswego and St. Norbert. I see why you might be thinking this but its hard to believe. Although Adrian picked up 4 points this weekend, they got them from an awful Concordia team. Norwich was a bit more respectful beating Castleton, but for them it should have been expected. Skidmore seems average? St. Norbert picked up 2 of 4 points over the weekend. Which leaves Oswego, who was the only team to play one game over the weekend of these teams. They lose to Morrisville, an opponent that although not being ranked has seemed to have proven themselves time and time again. Remember that they have wins over Geneseo and Plattsburgh IN Plattsburgh as well, among a few other big wins. At most I think Norwich steals some votes but the top does not change to much.

1-Oswego
1-St. Norbert
3-Norwich
4-Castleton
5-Adrian

these polls are fun but lets face it the top 10 or so?? could beat eachother on any given night, its what happens, bounces , penalties etc that will decide whats what in the end should be interesting......

Stormy8174
02-13-2011, 04:09 PM
these polls are fun but lets face it the top 10 or so?? could beat eachother on any given night, its what happens, bounces , penalties etc that will decide whats what in the end should be interesting......

I usually don't chime in on the predictions at all but Adrian over Oswego AND St. Norbert was too much for me to let it slide by :p

LakerEagleLover
02-13-2011, 05:05 PM
these polls are fun but lets face it the top 10 or so?? could beat eachother on any given night, its what happens, bounces , penalties etc that will decide whats what in the end should be interesting...... Copy that, drafty - the only one that matters is the last one after the tournament is over....

Matt Rennell
02-13-2011, 05:25 PM
Copy that, drafty - the only one that matters is the last one after the tournament is over....

There is no poll after the tournament is over. So really, none of the polls ever matter, which is a good thing since they still have Norwich and Castleton in the top 5 for some inexplicable reason.

LakerEagleLover
02-13-2011, 06:37 PM
There is no poll after the tournament is over. So really, none of the polls ever matter, which is a good thing since they still have Norwich and Castleton in the top 5 for some inexplicable reason. I was speaking about the final standings.....whatever.

GoBullDogsGo
02-14-2011, 09:03 AM
I highly doubt that Norwich and Adrian will take over 1st and 2nd from Oswego and St. Norbert. I see why you might be thinking this but its hard to believe. Although Adrian picked up 4 points this weekend, they got them from an awful Concordia team. Norwich was a bit more respectful beating Castleton, but for them it should have been expected. Skidmore seems average? St. Norbert picked up 2 of 4 points over the weekend. Which leaves Oswego, who was the only team to play one game over the weekend of these teams. They lose to Morrisville, an opponent that although not being ranked has seemed to have proven themselves time and time again. Remember that they have wins over Geneseo and Plattsburgh IN Plattsburgh as well, among a few other big wins. At most I think Norwich steals some votes but the top does not change to much.

1-Oswego
1-St. Norbert
3-Norwich
4-Castleton
5-Adrian

So let me understand your thought process.....If Oswego or St Norbert ever lose a game(s), you would not give any weighting to those outcomes, but any team below that you would give the full weighting to those games landing in the "L" column. Oswego & SNC should be cemented in the spots at the top regardless of whether they win or lose. :rolleyes:Interesting?

Dutchmen_04
02-14-2011, 02:19 PM
and there you have it...

February 14, 2011
Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 Oswego (14) 20-3-0 292 1
2 St. Norbert ( 4) 20-4-1 281 2
3 Norwich ( 2) 15-5-3 258 4
4 Castleton 19-3-1 2 30 3
5 Adrian 19-3-1 210 5
6 Elmira 15-5-3 175 11
7 Plattsburgh 16-7-1 166 9
8 Milwaukee School of 19-3-1 159 10
9 Geneseo 15-6-2 140 6
10 Utica 17-7-0 96 7
11 Manhattanville 14-8-1 87 12
12 Bowdoin 13-7-1 69 8
12 Hamline 13-5-5 69 13
14 Williams 13-6-3 54 15
15 Middlebury 11-6-5 34 NR

Others Receiving Votes: Hamilton 30, Neumann 20, Hobart 7, Wisconsin-Stout 7, Wisconsin-Superior 7, Salem State 4, Gustavus Adolphus 2, Curry 1, Marian 1, St. Thomas 1

PrezdeJohnson09
02-14-2011, 02:24 PM
USCHO.com Division III Men's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./February 14, 2011

Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 Oswego (14) 20-3-0 292 1
2 St. Norbert ( 4) 20-4-1 281 2
3 Norwich ( 2) 15-5-3 258 4
4 Castleton 19-3-1 230 3
5 Adrian 19-3-1 210 5
6 Elmira 15-5-3 175 11
7 Plattsburgh 16-7-1 166 9
8 Milwaukee School of Engineering 19-3-1 159 10
9 Geneseo 15-6-2 140 6
10 Utica 17-7-0 96 7
11 Manhattanville 14-8-1 87 12
12 Bowdoin 13-7-1 69 8
12 Hamline 13-5-5 69 13
14 Williams 13-6-3 54 15
15 Middlebury 11-6-5 34 NR

Others Receiving Votes: Hamilton 30, Neumann 20, Hobart 7,
Wisconsin-Stout 7, Wisconsin-Superior 7, Salem State 4,
Gustavus Adolphus 2, Curry 1, Marian 1, St. Thomas 1

The USCHO.com Poll is compiled weekly and consists of 20 voters, including 18 coaches of Division III programs and two men's hockey writers. USCHO.com provides in-depth coverage of college hockey.


Little prettier and there is the first sighting of da Panthers again...Here come the boys in blue...

LakerFan99
02-14-2011, 02:26 PM
and there you have it...

February 14, 2011
Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 Oswego (14) 20-3-0 292 1
2 St. Norbert ( 4) 20-4-1 281 2
3 Norwich ( 2) 15-5-3 258 4
4 Castleton 19-3-1 230 3
5 Adrian 19-3-1 210 5
6 Elmira 15-5-3 175 11
7 Plattsburgh 16-7-1 166 9
8 Milwaukee School of 19-3-1 159 10
9 Geneseo 15-6-2 140 6
10 Utica 17-7-0 96 7
11 Manhattanville 14-8-1 87 12
12 Bowdoin 13-7-1 69 8
12 Hamline 13-5-5 69 13
14 Williams 13-6-3 54 15
15 Middlebury 11-6-5 34 NR

No big surprises there. Except it's a little odd how the 2nd place team in SUNYAC is ranked lower than the 5th place team in SUNYAC. But their out of conference records are very different...

spwood
02-14-2011, 02:32 PM
I think it's interesting that, according the Matt's latest "bracketology", teams #3, #4, #5, and #7 have no chance at an at-large bid....

PSUChamps2001
02-14-2011, 02:37 PM
I think it's interesting that, according the Matt's latest "bracketology", teams #3, #4, #5, and #7 have no chance at an at-large bid....

Unless Im missing something here, Matt had Plattsburgh as the #4E seed in his last bracketology...

CardsFan91
02-14-2011, 03:07 PM
Unless Im missing something here, Matt had Plattsburgh as the #4E seed in his last bracketology...

Yeah, I got that too. He had #4E Plattsburgh hosting #5E Norwich in the play-in game.

spwood
02-14-2011, 03:45 PM
Sorry, guys, I meant #8, not #7....sheesh, it's just a little mistake.

Oh, and who is voting Norwich #1? I'd love to hear the argument for them over Oswego or St. Norbert...

jerrynu26
02-14-2011, 04:11 PM
Sorry, guys, I meant #8, not #7....sheesh, it's just a little mistake.

Oh, and who is voting Norwich #1? I'd love to hear the argument for them over Oswego or St. Norbert...

No idea. They should be 5th at best.

PrezdeJohnson09
02-14-2011, 05:23 PM
Sorry, guys, I meant #8, not #7....sheesh, it's just a little mistake.

Oh, and who is voting Norwich #1? I'd love to hear the argument for them over Oswego or St. Norbert...
Me. :)

Matt Rennell
02-14-2011, 05:33 PM
I think it's interesting that, according the Matt's latest "bracketology", teams #3, #4, #5, and #7 have no chance at an at-large bid....

Slight correction. #3 (Norwich) does have a shot at a Pool C. But I have them winning the ECAC East. But aside from that you would be correct. Castleton, Adrian, and MSOE at the present time would not make the field unless they win their leagues.

NUProf
02-14-2011, 05:35 PM
No idea. They should be 5th at best.

I agree. I think they are in the mix, have a lot of talent, but based on results, #3 is too high, and voting #1 shows a historical bias.