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UWisco
02-17-2011, 04:55 PM
Chuck, isn't it funny how easily you can annoy rodents.

Bronzebacks
02-17-2011, 04:55 PM
facepalm.

Give it a couple more...now close your hand and make a fist. Now try it again. That should make that piece of **** work.

SJHovey
02-17-2011, 05:01 PM
You could not be more wrong. They can flip the comparison with UW this weekend.

How does MN flip the comparison with Wisconsin, even with a sweep, this weekend?

Doesn't Wisconsin lead the comparison 3-1 right now? If MN sweeps, it's 3-3, but doesn't everyone assume RPI is the tiebreaker? I haven't done the math, but does a sweep for MN this weekend automatically result in MN making up a pretty substantial deficit in the RPI?

Tiggsy
02-17-2011, 05:03 PM
Chuck, isn't it funny how easily you can annoy rodents.

UW fans just have a knack for being annoying. Quite an accomplishment... I guess. :D


How does MN flip the comparison with Wisconsin, even with a sweep, this weekend?

Doesn't Wisconsin lead the comparison 3-1 right now? If MN sweeps, it's 3-3, but doesn't everyone assume RPI is the tiebreaker? I haven't done the math, but does a sweep for MN this weekend automatically result in MN making up a pretty substantial deficit in the RPI?

I don't think it can be done this weekend, but the COP could flip depending on the results of the last couple weeks of the season and playoffs. It is certainly possible to flip in the next 2-3 weeks with a sweep.

dxmnkd316
02-17-2011, 05:18 PM
How does MN flip the comparison with Wisconsin, even with a sweep, this weekend?

Doesn't Wisconsin lead the comparison 3-1 right now? If MN sweeps, it's 3-3, but doesn't everyone assume RPI is the tiebreaker? I haven't done the math, but does a sweep for MN this weekend automatically result in MN making up a pretty substantial deficit in the RPI?

We have BSU and Tech remaining. You're going to have SCSU and CC. SCSU may be an easier series but CC isn't. That's for **** sure.

Gurtholfin
02-17-2011, 06:09 PM
This is getting a little off track with all of this actual hockey talk, so I thought we might all enjoy a few nature photos. :)

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Gurtholfin
02-17-2011, 06:14 PM
One more, just for fun...

http://i820.***********.com/albums/zz128/Gurtholfin/USCHO/GopherLunch/doublegophercatch.jpg

solovsfett
02-17-2011, 07:08 PM
One more, just for fun...

http://i820.***********.com/albums/zz128/Gurtholfin/USCHO/GopherLunch/doublegophercatch.jpg

oh man, that is effing awesome!

Chuck Schwartz
02-17-2011, 07:37 PM
One more, just for fun...

http://i820.***********.com/albums/zz128/Gurtholfin/USCHO/GopherLunch/doublegophercatch.jpg

Def borrowed this for the blog. Great stuff!

UWisco
02-17-2011, 08:02 PM
One more, just for fun...

http://i820.***********.com/albums/zz128/Gurtholfin/USCHO/GopherLunch/doublegophercatch.jpg

Nice one G. Haha

Bakunin
02-17-2011, 10:17 PM
Every team UW plays might be TUC's, but they are all below them in in the Pairwise. Regardless of what happens at the end of the regular season, UW will be a bubble team. The WCHA playoffs will be a critical time for Bucky, the playoffs will be the only opportunity to beat a team that could give them a jump.
Pay attention to the bolded part of what you said - it's rather important. Given the league standings right now, there's a pretty strong chance that UW's next 8 games (9 if the first round goes to a third game) will be against TUCs. If they reach the Final Five, that'll add at least another game to that total. They certainly have plenty of opportunity to move up - while I don't have time at the moment to dig deeper into the comparisons and see just how far they can move, my off the cuff guess is if they run the table and win the Final Five, they'd probably be sitting around 7th-8th in the pairwise and be a #2 seed. At the other end, if they lose all their remaining games, they would probably be somewhere close to the TUC cliff.

Bronzebacks
02-17-2011, 10:46 PM
Pay attention to the bolded part of what you said - it's rather important. Given the league standings right now, there's a pretty strong chance that UW's next 8 games (9 if the first round goes to a third game) will be against TUCs. If they reach the Final Five, that'll add at least another game to that total. They certainly have plenty of opportunity to move up - while I don't have time at the moment to dig deeper into the comparisons and see just how far they can move, my off the cuff guess is if they run the table and win the Final Five, they'd probably be sitting around 7th-8th in the pairwise and be a #2 seed. At the other end, if they lose all their remaining games, they would probably be somewhere close to the TUC cliff.

Yes.....Even if they split all the way out, they will be on the bubble. Obviously if they win the Final Five they are in with an auto bid, and likely have beaten a high ranked team in the process which would give them a boost. That's exactly why I said the wcha playoffs will be a critical time for this team. I would agree with your prediction if they were to run the table. That would be very impressive but unlikely. Regardless, for what was expected to be a down year, UW is in the mix.

Bakunin
02-17-2011, 10:54 PM
How high a team is ranked has nothing to do with how much of a "boost" they get in the pairwise. Beating any TUC is valuable. Beating the strongest TUCs is only slightly more valuable (due to RPI considerations). The route of least resistance is to play and beat a bunch of the weaker TUCs - and UW gets to face three of them down the stretch (and possibly/probably one of the same three in the first round of the playoffs).

Bronzebacks
02-17-2011, 11:19 PM
How high a team is ranked has nothing to do with how much of a "boost" they get in the pairwise. Beating any TUC is valuable. Beating the strongest TUCs is only slightly more valuable (due to RPI considerations). The route of least resistance is to play and beat a bunch of the weaker TUCs - and UW gets to face three of them down the stretch (and possibly/probably one of the same three in the first round of the playoffs).

I was mistaken to say "higher ranked" but should have said a team above them in pairwise. Beating weaker TUCs can help a team. In the not so perfect system it can hurt a team as well. Beating a very weak TUC (such as St. Cloud at the present time) could push them off the TUC cliff and not help at all. With out a good FF push, Bucky could be in a tough spot.

HarleyMC
02-18-2011, 03:12 AM
There's no doubt this big time rivalry series will have an enhanced high energy playoff atmosphere this weekend and significant WCHA playoff implications. I suspect it will be much different than the one in November, as both teams have refined their systems play and are ready to make a stretch run for the playoffs.

With their mutual freshmen growing pains, the Gophers and Badgers are very evenly matched which will translate into perhaps one of the most exciting and closely played series for the Gophers this season. With the exception of Wisc. playing one more game than MN, both teams have scored 25 goals and allowed 23 goals in 2011. Both goalies are having very good seasons so far. Gunderson and Patterson are #1 and #2 respectively in SV% against WCHA teams, with only a .002 separation.

In play against WCHA teams, the Gophers have a negligible edge in scoring offense despite their frequent scoring woes. Moreover, the Gophers have the best first period scoring record of any WCHA team. If the Gophers want to take points home, they must match UW's intensity out of the gate, get the early lead and maintain poise and confidence amidst the noisy shrill and intense atmosphere of the Kohl. The seniors Hoeffel, Cepis, Barriball, Fairchild have to lead the way in scoring.

The most critical area of concern for the Gophers again this weekend will be special teams. In WCHA play, the Gophers are last in PK, while the Badgers sit at #1. The Gophers have been minimizing turnovers lately, but have been in penalty trouble too often this season. Staying out of the box in a rivalry series like this will most likely be the difference between winning and losing.

Both teams desperately want points. UW is coming off a two disappointing losses against UNO and the Gophers found their potential last weekend with a surprising goal fest against Denver. I'm going with at least a split and possibly...maybe...3 points for the Gophers.

There is no doubt the Kohl will be rockin' this weekend and a great place to see a historically fierce college hockey rivalry. Let's get it on!!

GO GOPHERS!!!

HarleyMC
02-18-2011, 03:40 AM
If Max gets decent playing time, will brotherly love prevail or will he enact revenge?

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Bakunin
02-18-2011, 04:04 AM
In the not so perfect system it can hurt a team as well.
Winning a game against a TUC never hurts a team - as long as the opponent remains a TUC. Even if the win pushes the team off the TUC cliff and out of consideration, whether or not it hurts the team that beat them depends on what is governing their comparisons (if they're winning comparisons despite their TUC record and/or losing other comparisons because of it already, then hurting that record further isn't going to matter). Further complicating this is the fact RPI breaks tied comparisons - and losing intentionally, even if it's beneficial to the TUC record, is certainly going to hurt the RPI category.

Chuck Schwartz
02-18-2011, 11:34 AM
No posts in this thread this morning? What are you guys getting soft? F-Minnesota. Bucky get's 2 points tonight.

Innova
02-18-2011, 11:36 AM
I am finishing up my work. Heading out in about an hour, then taking the 2-hour drive down to Madison. Hopefully, that should leave me enough time for pre-gaming :).

I haven't been to a game in about 5-6 years...so yes, Bucky will take two points tonight, just to honor my presence.

goldy_331
02-18-2011, 11:58 AM
No posts in this thread this morning? What are you guys getting soft? F-Minnesota. Bucky get's 2 points tonight.

Harley posted at 2:12 and 2:40 AM, Bakunin at 3:04 AM. Those are morning times in MN, are they not in WI?