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PassShootScore10
02-06-2011, 11:17 PM
Someone started this on the men's side, so I figured I would start one on the women's.. just interested to see what everyone thinks! :)

FALCONSANNOUNCER
02-07-2011, 01:23 AM
I don't know squat about out west, but will give my 2 cents about the west. And thats all its really worth is two cents because I miss a ton of games because I call the men's games as well.

F Kristin Faber UWEC
F Katie Flanagan UWRF
F Sara Luberda CUW
D Bailey Vikstrom UWRF
D Kelly Salis AD
G Danielle Justice GAC

2nd Team
F Sam Meuwissen CUW
F Stacey Kempson AD
F Kait Mason UWRF
D Kayla Chilstrom UWS
D Anna Carlson Bethel
G Cassi Campbell UWRF


I would love to make this all Falcons players, and easily could as I think many of them would be the star on other teams but it is a collective effort of talent at UWRF that makes it work. The whole team should be all-americans as it is rare anyone has a bad shift. That said these are the ones that stand out most in my eyes.

Also I know its mostly NCHA players, but that is who I see the most. I also believe the NCHA has the better teams and players so that is why I lean towards them.

PrezdeJohnson09
02-07-2011, 09:15 AM
East 1st Team:

F.Sophie Leclerc, Norwich
F.Sarah Dagg, RIT
F.Kayte Holtz, Bowdoin
D.Geneva Lloyd, Amherst (If she's even playing D now, I know she's been used as a forward and d)
D.Kara Buehler, Plattsburgh
G.Laura Chamberlain, RIT

East 2nd Team-

F.Tori Charron, Elmira
F.Katie Stack, RIT
F.Steph Moon, Plattsburgh
D.Traci Galbraith, RIT
D.Laura Komarek, Trinity
G.Lexi Bloom, Middlebury

gojackets
02-07-2011, 12:15 PM
F Kristin Faber UWEC
F Katie Flanagan UWRF
F Sara Luberda CUW
D Bailey Vikstrom UWRF
D Kelly Salis AD
G Danielle Justice GAC

2nd Team
F Sam Meuwissen CUW
F Stacey Kempson AD
F Kait Mason UWRF
D Kayla Chilstrom UWS
D Anna Carlson Bethel
G Cassi Campbell UWRF



The west generally only gets one team, which makes it even harder. I'd be pretty surprised if any of your top 5 get in there except maybe Justice and Faber

A lot of this will come down to points, and Flanagan only has 15 on the year. The best shot River Falls will have is Mason and she only has 19 points. I'd love to see Faber get in there because she deserves it, she's been the star of the UWEC team since she walked thru the doors as a freshman. She has a pretty decent shot as she has the 6th most points in the west behind 3 players from Concordia-Moorhead of all places and 2 from Stevens Point. She has 25 points on the year so far, 106 career in 97 games.

My guess
F Kristen Faber UWEC
F Stacy Kempson Adrian
F Emily Sell CM
D Kristen Peterson(i'd be really surprised if she doesn't despite her lower numbers this year) GAC
D Lauren Conrad RF
G Casi Campbell(based more on record than other stats, could be either her or justice though, Campbell's only played 560 mins compared to Justice's 960 also, so I could see it swinging Jusices way on that as well.

I'd love to see Chilstrom get it from UWS, but there are better defender stats on teams like Bethel, St Kate, and Adrian, but i don't know if those players would get recognized for not being from as well known of a school.

PassShootScore10
02-07-2011, 12:28 PM
GoJ I agree with you that Justice will get it over Campbell based on the fact that she has played so much more than her.

Also I watched the Falls/Superior game online sunday and it looked like Chilstrom was playing forward?

I think it's time they start thinking about introducing a second team for the west

4and20
02-07-2011, 01:05 PM
I am pretty sure they said last year at the banquet that the west would have two (2) teams this season.

PrezdeJohnson09
02-07-2011, 02:17 PM
I am pretty sure they said last year at the banquet that the west would have two (2) teams this season.

I believe this is correct. The addition of St. Norbert and St. Scholastica pushed the west to the required number of teams for a second.

OneTimer
02-07-2011, 02:37 PM
Emi Williams, SR goalie from Oswego deserves more than just honorable mention as an All-American

PrezdeJohnson09
02-07-2011, 02:43 PM
Emi Williams, SR goalie from Oswego deserves more than just honorable mention as an All-American

I agree 100% but I don't know if her numbers are going to get her enough notice.

I listed her as a Mid-season All-American but with the way Lexi Bloom has played for Middlebury in the second half, I don't know if you can leave her off.

Williams has been essential to Oswego's break out season this year and you're right she probably does deserve more credit. However, she's going to have her hands full just trying to get on the ECAC West all-conference squads with Chamberlain, Mackrell, and Sullivan all having claims to it as well.

Do I think Williams should get it? Absolutely. But, will she? That's a different story unfortuantely. It's just the way these things work unfortunately.

gojackets
02-07-2011, 04:01 PM
GoJ I agree with you that Justice will get it over Campbell based on the fact that she has played so much more than her.

Also I watched the Falls/Superior game online sunday and it looked like Chilstrom was playing forward?

I think it's time they start thinking about introducing a second team for the west

The roster on the UWS page has her listed as a forward, the one on collegehockeystats has her listed as D, so I'd assume she's a forward. I think she was a D in the past.

gojackets
02-07-2011, 04:08 PM
I believe this is correct. The addition of St. Norbert and St. Scholastica pushed the west to the required number of teams for a second.

thats good, about time. I think that would definitely put Justice as the first team and campbell as the 2nd team

My 2nd team west would be
F Erin Marvin SP
F Sarah Luberda CUW
F Either Kaitlyn Dold from Concordia or Michaela Michaelson St Kate
D Megan Langhe St Kate
D Kelly Salis Adrian (Peterson could get 2nd team now)
G Cassi Campbell RF

westeast
02-09-2011, 12:04 PM
thats good, about time. I think that would definitely put Justice as the first team and campbell as the 2nd team

My 2nd team west would be
F Erin Marvin SP
F Sarah Luberda CUW
F Either Kaitlyn Dold from Concordia or Michaela Michaelson St Kate
D Megan Langhe St Kate
D Kelly Salis Adrian (Peterson could get 2nd team now)
G Cassi Campbell RF

looks like your just going off stats. There are many players out there that do so much for their team and don't get talked about. I guess you really need to follow the team to see what a great player brings. I should start a thread for these type of players. Do they kill penalties are they on the power play do they back check? These re the players that make a good team.

gojackets
02-09-2011, 12:17 PM
looks like your just going off stats. There are many players out there that do so much for their team and don't get talked about. I guess you really need to follow the team to see what a great player brings. I should start a thread for these type of players. Do they kill penalties are they on the power play do they back check? These re the players that make a good team.

You're right, I am going mainly off stats, but unfortunately thats what gets them there. Especially the defenseman..its hard to guage a good defensemen vs a decent one that puts up better numbers. How many of the All-American voters have seen CUW play this year, or hamline, bethel etc.

Every Once in awhile there is a surprise in there, but usually these players come from the top teams in the region, and the top stats.

Didn't a girl from bethel get All-American last year, which I thought was surprising, because thats not a common team you hear people talk about.

PrezdeJohnson09
02-09-2011, 12:29 PM
You're right, I am going mainly off stats, but unfortunately thats what gets them there. Especially the defenseman..its hard to guage a good defensemen vs a decent one that puts up better numbers. How many of the All-American voters have seen CUW play this year, or hamline, bethel etc.

Every Once in awhile there is a surprise in there, but usually these players come from the top teams in the region, and the top stats.

Didn't a girl from bethel get All-American last year, which I thought was surprising, because thats not a common team you hear people talk about.

When it comes to forwards I agree with you.

However, since a lot of the good teams in the West play each other over the course of the year. All the coaches have the opportunity to see the who are the best players and sometimes, especially on defense, it's about who plays better defense rather than just who put up the most points.

Certainly points have something to do with it for both positions, but there have been years on both the men and women's side where kids with mediocre "stats" as defenseman have been named AA because of their defensive play.

123kidd
02-09-2011, 02:23 PM
You're right, I am going mainly off stats, but unfortunately thats what gets them there. Especially the defenseman..its hard to guage a good defensemen vs a decent one that puts up better numbers. How many of the All-American voters have seen CUW play this year, or hamline, bethel etc.

Every Once in awhile there is a surprise in there, but usually these players come from the top teams in the region, and the top stats.

Didn't a girl from bethel get All-American last year, which I thought was surprising, because thats not a common team you hear people talk about.

I think a few years back Bethel had a goalie named Spurrier or something like that, but last years West Team:

UWS - Goalie
LF - Def
GAC - Def
LF - F
GAC - F
SCU - F

dogwatcher
02-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Don't have a handle on all the players from the west however I have seen Salis play a lot and can say for sure she is the real deal. On many nights she is the best player on the ice for both teams, and can give her team what it needs to compete wether it is offense or defense . She is a great shutdown defensemen with amazing offensive talent. She plays PK and PP and can beat players with her strength or with finesse.

FALCONSANNOUNCER
02-09-2011, 10:42 PM
Don't have a handle on all the players from the west however I have seen Salis play a lot and can say for sure she is the real deal. On many nights she is the best player on the ice for both teams, and can give her team what it needs to compete wether it is offense or defense . She is a great shutdown defensemen with amazing offensive talent. She plays PK and PP and can beat players with her strength or with finesse.

From what I have seen Vikstrom and Salis on the best on D, with Conrad a very close third. I think few defensemen can skate with these three. Only reason I didn't list Conrad was I felt her numbers were a little off from last year but I haven't checked that to verify.

spike
02-10-2011, 09:03 AM
East 1st Team:

F.Sophie Leclerc, Norwich
F.Sarah Dagg, RIT
F.Kayte Holtz, Bowdoin
D.Geneva Lloyd, Amherst (If she's even playing D now, I know she's been used as a forward and d)
D.Kara Buehler, Plattsburgh
G.Laura Chamberlain, RIT

East 2nd Team-

F.Tori Charron, Elmira
F.Katie Stack, RIT
F.Steph Moon, Plattsburgh
D.Traci Galbraith, RIT
D.Laura Komarek, Trinity
G.Lexi Bloom, Middlebury

A good list Prez, but I would make the following two adjustments:

1. Swap Charron and Holtz. Charron has scored against all comers, Holtz has piled up a lot of points against weaker non-conference opponents;

2. Swap Bloom and Chamberlain. If I had my druthers I'd put both on first team, but I can't. Laura has 7 players averaging over 1 ppg playing in front of her. Lexi doesn't.

It's a tribute to the depth of talent that we aren't even talking about Zukas, Hanlon, Weiss, etc.

HockeyDman
02-10-2011, 11:08 AM
East 1st Team:

F.Sophie Leclerc, Norwich
F.Sarah Dagg, RIT
F.Kayte Holtz, Bowdoin
D.Geneva Lloyd, Amherst (If she's even playing D now, I know she's been used as a forward and d)
D.Kara Buehler, Plattsburgh
G.Laura Chamberlain, RIT

East 2nd Team-

F.Tori Charron, Elmira
F.Katie Stack, RIT
F.Steph Moon, Plattsburgh
D.Traci Galbraith, RIT
D.Laura Komarek, Trinity
G.Lexi Bloom, Middlebury


Prez...good picks...just going through overall stats and I know this topic has been discussed before and that overall stats are not always a true indication of a players talent (especially for Defense) but I noticed Sarianne Lynn is the top defenseman in the country with 21 points and then Lloyd with 18 and from your comments Lloyd might not be playing D. Since you know Norwich what’s your take on this is? I think Galbraith should be a 1st team selection over Lloyd.

LadyFalconsFan
02-10-2011, 03:21 PM
The west generally only gets one team, which makes it even harder. I'd be pretty surprised if any of your top 5 get in there except maybe Justice and Faber

A lot of this will come down to points, and Flanagan only has 15 on the year. The best shot River Falls will have is Mason and she only has 19 points. I'd love to see Faber get in there because she deserves it, she's been the star of the UWEC team since she walked thru the doors as a freshman. She has a pretty decent shot as she has the 6th most points in the west behind 3 players from Concordia-Moorhead of all places and 2 from Stevens Point. She has 25 points on the year so far, 106 career in 97 games.

My guess
F Kristen Faber UWEC
F Stacy Kempson Adrian
F Emily Sell CM
D Kristen Peterson(i'd be really surprised if she doesn't despite her lower numbers this year) GAC
D Lauren Conrad RF
G Casi Campbell(based more on record than other stats, could be either her or justice though, Campbell's only played 560 mins compared to Justice's 960 also, so I could see it swinging Jusices way on that as well.

I'd love to see Chilstrom get it from UWS, but there are better defender stats on teams like Bethel, St Kate, and Adrian, but i don't know if those players would get recognized for not being from as well known of a school.

part of that is that Cranston is keeping a pretty even spread between 3 solid goalies. to this date... Campbell only has 9 full games, Deardorff has 6 full games, Kuechle has 4 full games, and there are 2 games with multiple goalies (one of which Rasmussen also saw the ice)

Justice has 12 games and of the 6 split games, she was on the ice/got the win in 5 of them. (not sure why she wasn't in at all against superior)