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TigerFan86-87
03-07-2011, 01:29 PM
...one of the most interesting stats of this season is that 6 of AIC's 8 Atlantic wins this season are on the road. Go figure.

But of their only 2 home wins, one was a shellacking of RIT. And to all those who seem happy that RIT benefits by playing the 12th seeded YellowJackets, remember that the only Eastern Pod team that beat RIT was AIC. Granted it wasn't at the Ritter, but given that all four road teams won this past weekend.... You had just better be careful what you wish for. RIT has proven that they can play down to the level of anyone and be beaten by anybody (as long as you consider ties as potential post-season losses like I do). Let's just hope the Tigers spent the time off re-locating the A-game they brought against Canisius three weeks ago.

TigerFan86-87
03-07-2011, 01:31 PM
You hate to count your chickens before they hatch, but it is certainly looking like RIT-Air Force.

Then don't... please.
There's a lot of work left to do.
Playing the # 12 isn't a gimme... Just ask RPI.

slewwwwwfoot!
03-07-2011, 01:40 PM
I don't buy it.

A single game, midway through this season, anything can happen. Niagara and RMU (and Army and Bentley) learned this the past weekend.

We have the advantage of a best of three series. AIC might win one, but lightening rarely strikes twice. Which isn't to say it can't be overlooked, don't get me wrong - but an upset in a three game series is much, much different than a single game.

RIT Winters
03-07-2011, 01:51 PM
But of their only 2 home wins, one was a shellacking of RIT. And to all those who seem happy that RIT benefits by playing the 12th seeded YellowJackets, remember that the only Eastern Pod team that beat RIT was AIC. Granted it wasn't at the Ritter, but given that all four road teams won this past weekend.... You had just better be careful what you wish for. RIT has proven that they can play down to the level of anyone and be beaten by anybody (as long as you consider ties as potential post-season losses like I do). Let's just hope the Tigers spent the time off re-locating the A-game they brought against Canisius three weeks ago.

That was mid season when the defense had yet to come into its own, and Madolora was sitting on the bench every Saturday. All you have to do is look at who was in net that weekend to see where we stand against AIC. RIT is head and shoulders above the team that AIC beat that weekend.

Is it impossible they take a game from us? No, of course not. But barring a massive team-wide meltdown, I cannot imagine us losing the series.

cplinford
03-07-2011, 02:03 PM
I always get real nervous for every quarter final series. I think the best of 3 format tends to let teams off the hook a little.

The team that I believe is most dangerous this year is AFA. Yeah RIT hadn't beat Niagara and RMO put up a strong season but no other team plays harder. I had no doubt they would get the sweep against RMO when they needed it. Its just the mindset that team has. This is the only team I am hoping gets eliminated before the BCA

RIT Winters
03-07-2011, 02:57 PM
I always get real nervous for every quarter final series. I think the best of 3 format tends to let teams off the hook a little.

The team that I believe is most dangerous this year is AFA. Yeah RIT hadn't beat Niagara and RMO put up a strong season but no other team plays harder. I had no doubt they would get the sweep against RMO when they needed it. Its just the mindset that team has. This is the only team I am hoping gets eliminated before the BCA

I'd love nothing more than an RIT vs AFA championship. They play each other as hard as it gets and the games are incredible to watch. We're 1-1-1 against them this year and both non-wins were games that got away.

Rochester
03-07-2011, 07:34 PM
I'd love nothing more than an RIT vs AFA championship. They play each other as hard as it gets and the games are incredible to watch. We're 1-1-1 against them this year and both non-wins were games that got away.

Lets not get ahead! We still have three possibly 4 games until the championship...

35TH40TH
03-07-2011, 09:09 PM
Yeah, I could take a guess at what caused it, but I'm still trying to figure out just what someone not on the ice has to do to get a DQ. On the ice, you've pretty much gotta hit someone from behind with intent to injure, don't you? (Or leave the bench to join a fight.) Are we to take from that that Burkholder or an assistant got violently physical with someone? And who would serve a Bench DQ anyway?


Powers &8^]

We were at the game and the call on ZANETTE was sound. The DQ came after the whistle when the Ref had Paul by the shoulders so he tried to head butt a Canisius player who was wishing him luck in the future since his college career was now over. It was Niagara that looked like goons. Of course they did not announce the DQs but Burkholder left the ice with :15 seconds to go. He was not yelling at the Refs before that, so it must have been what he said. Overall a well called game. It was the quietest hockey game I have ever been to. GO TIGERS.

slewwwwwfoot!
03-07-2011, 10:32 PM
We were at the game and the call on ZANETTE was sound. The DQ came after the whistle when the Ref had Paul by the shoulders so he tried to head butt a Canisius player who was wishing him luck in the future since his college career was now over. It was Niagara that looked like goons. Of course they did not announce the DQs but Burkholder left the ice with :15 seconds to go. He was not yelling at the Refs before that, so it must have been what he said. Overall a well called game. It was the quietest hockey game I have ever been to. GO TIGERS.

Excuse my naivete, but how do you know what the Canisius player was saying to Zanette?

Loki
03-08-2011, 12:54 AM
For those of you that care some much about rankings in the poll, RM is still getting votes and their season is over...

jflory81
03-08-2011, 02:23 AM
So uh...at the risk of looking ahead....does Atlantic Hockey reseed again heading into the BCA arena? Or does the RIT-AIC winner play the UConn-Mercyhurst winner no matter what?

jgRIT
03-08-2011, 04:15 AM
So uh...at the risk of looking ahead....does Atlantic Hockey reseed again heading into the BCA arena? Or does the RIT-AIC winner play the UConn-Mercyhurst winner no matter what?

They reseed.

blazer777
03-08-2011, 11:12 AM
For those of you that care some much about rankings in the poll, RM is still getting votes and their season is over...

Maybe it's time to build two conferences with 4 divisions in each. Top 16 make it to the tourney.


Conference 1 = 4 Divisions
Conference 2 = 4 Divisions

Each Div has an equal amount of regional teams.
Top 2 from each divsion make it to the tourney. (8 x 2 = 16)

The rest go home and start planting for spring.

This would removed the East Coast \ West Coast \ Middle Coast \ South Coast and Alaska Coast bias from the polls and the tourney would be based solely
on team record.

TigerFan86-87
03-08-2011, 01:29 PM
Maybe it's time to build two conferences with 4 divisions in each. Top 16 make it to the tourney.


Conference 1 = 4 Divisions
Conference 2 = 4 Divisions

Each Div has an equal amount of regional teams.
Top 2 from each divsion make it to the tourney. (8 x 2 = 16)

The rest go home and start planting for spring.

This would removed the East Coast \ West Coast \ Middle Coast \ South Coast and Alaska Coast bias from the polls and the tourney would be based solely
on team record.

That sure is a unique suggestion. I'm sure it was at least partially tounge-in-cheek.
But just so we're all clear, the polls have very little to do with who makes the tournament. The selection criteria mimics almost exactly the Pair-Wise rankings, which are mostly, if not completely, objective. Bias plays almost no part.

dutchbrowncoat
03-08-2011, 02:11 PM
Maybe it's time to build two conferences with 4 divisions in each. Top 16 make it to the tourney.


Conference 1 = 4 Divisions
Conference 2 = 4 Divisions

Each Div has an equal amount of regional teams.
Top 2 from each divsion make it to the tourney. (8 x 2 = 16)

The rest go home and start planting for spring.

This would removed the East Coast \ West Coast \ Middle Coast \ South Coast and Alaska Coast bias from the polls and the tourney would be based solely
on team record.

this is sort of what aha did this year and i am sure you noticed how uneven the pods were. a brilliant idea if talent was distributed evenly by region. but it's not.

elvo86
03-09-2011, 06:42 AM
So uh...at the risk of looking ahead....does Atlantic Hockey reseed again heading into the BCA arena? Or does the RIT-AIC winner play the UConn-Mercyhurst winner no matter what?


They reseed.

No they don't. We see UConn/Mercyhurst no matter what. http://twitter.com/#!/chrislerch/status/44263234735308800

slewwwwwfoot!
03-09-2011, 07:03 AM
No they don't. We see UConn/Mercyhurst no matter what. http://twitter.com/#!/chrislerch/status/44263234735308800

For those who, like myself, aren't a fan of Twitter and don't know how to see more than that one word answer - see this (http://www.uscho.com/atlantic-hockey-playoffs/).

Not sure why he says teams are re-seeded after the first round, and yet 4 of the 8 teams don't have a seed shown there, but whatever. Also not sure what the point of re-seeding after the quarterfinals is, if the bracket is already determined. To me, it just adds confusion. Now we could be talking about team X, nth overall in the regular season and mth(E|W), who was jth seed going into the quarters and is now kth seed headed into the semis. Sigh.

komey1
03-09-2011, 10:09 AM
I expect the teams will be reseeded, as the lowest seeded team has always played the highest seed. I don't expect the Atlantic Hockey online bracket to look right.

Capernicus
03-09-2011, 01:46 PM
For those who, like myself, aren't a fan of Twitter and don't know how to see more than that one word answer - see this (http://www.uscho.com/atlantic-hockey-playoffs/).

Not sure why he says teams are re-seeded after the first round, and yet 4 of the 8 teams don't have a seed shown there, but whatever. Also not sure what the point of re-seeding after the quarterfinals is, if the bracket is already determined. To me, it just adds confusion. Now we could be talking about team X, nth overall in the regular season and mth(E|W), who was jth seed going into the quarters and is now kth seed headed into the semis. Sigh.

Follow your link then read this "Note: Teams are reseeded after the first and quarterfinal rounds." at the bottom of the page.

Teams are re-seeded.

slewwwwwfoot!
03-09-2011, 03:38 PM
I read that, and commented on it in the post your quoted. Read my post :p

The question is why Lerch thinks this is not the case. Or, rather, if despite re-seeding, the bracket stays such that we'd not be playing the lowest seed, but MC/UConn (assuming one of them wouldn't be the lowest anyway).