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cplinford
02-27-2011, 08:35 AM
Supposedly the ice was very hard Friday night. Which sounds obvious, but well anyone who knows about hockey should understand.

I was actually refering to Dwyer arena :)

slewwwwwfoot!
02-27-2011, 08:36 AM
I'm not against criticizing Wilson - for example, there are times after bad losses that he goes on the air with Lerch and basically says "eh, I'm not upset about it, sometimes the bounces just don't go your way, but I thought we played a good game," and that just leaves me speechless - but in this case, I think it's pretty silly to claim everything is his fault for "not making adjustments." Both nights we came out and played a hell of a first period. What adjustment would you make off of that? Who knows what was said in the locker room? Not anyone here, that's for sure, which means this is all baseless speculation.

Also, the whole losing streak against Niagara thing is just stupid. We've played them 11 times in 16 years or something like that. 3 times this year leaves 8 games in 15 years, or barely once every other year. In that span, whole teams have turned over 3 or 4 times. Coaching staff probably has as well, to some extent. It's meaningless.

Niagara is not invincible. If we get out there and play a solid 60 minutes against them - something it doesn't seem like we've done yet - I favor us to win. There's a reason they're in 4th place in the AHA. They had an 0-4-1 streak coming down the home stretch and recently got beat by Canisius. They're 0-2-1 against RMU. I hope the players aren't thinking along the same lines as discussion here, and getting a mental block about playing these guys. We can beat them. 2-1-0 against Canisius, won one in OT, maybe they won't even make it out of the first round.


Also, the schedule (http://atlantichockeyonline.com/schedules/2010-11) at atlantichockeyonline.com seems to have Sacred Heart and Holy Cross picked to the end of the season :p

RITShockSquad
02-27-2011, 08:50 AM
It absolutely pains me to say, but it seems we have to root for Canisius next weekend. They're our best hope to dodge the Niagara bullet. =/

This may make some of you feel slightly better. Niagara is 0-2 at home (0-2-1 overall) vs. RMU and 1-1 at home vs. UConn, which are their potential quarterfinal opponents. They potentially have the hardest road in to the BCA of the top 5 seeds.

RIT is 3-1-2 vs. Bentley/SH/AIC
AFA is 3-2-1 vs. Army/Bentley/SH
HC is 3-3-1 vs. UConn/Hurst/Canisius
NU is 1-3-1 vs. RMU/UConn
RMU is 4-0-1 vs. NU/UConn

MattS
02-27-2011, 08:58 AM
I really do like Wilson as a coach, but I don't think he should be immune from criticism. If the entire team comes out and plays poorly -- as they generally did after the first period yesterday -- it seems like that's more on the coaching than on any individual player.


Powers &8^]

Haven't you been paying attention? Wilson was a demigod here before last season's run in the NCAA's and now he's a full blow God! Criticizing him is blasphemy!!!

I didn't see the game so I can't comment about that. I just comment in general over the years that I have seen Wilson. All coach have their strong suits. I think Wilson's is recruiting. He's one of the best especially when taking his institutional constraints into consideration. I do think there is better coaches when it comes to motivation and the in-game X's and O's part of coaching. It is what it is.

erickuzniar
02-27-2011, 09:09 AM
Also, the whole losing streak against Niagara thing is just stupid. We've played them 11 times in 16 years or something like that. 3 times this year leaves 8 games in 15 years, or barely once every other year. In that span, whole teams have turned over 3 or 4 times. Coaching staff probably has as well, to some extent. It's meaningless.
I say bullcrap to your statment of this being stupid and meaningless.... Niagara is a natural rival. They are/will be one of RIT's top competition in the AHA. RIT had trouble beating them back in the DIII days and it has continued into DI. This long losing streak to Niagara means a lot to me and I am sure a lot of other long time RIT hockey fans.

BC/HE
02-27-2011, 09:22 AM
This may make some of you feel slightly better. Niagara is 0-2 at home (0-2-1 overall) vs. RMU and 1-1 at home vs. UConn, which are their potential quarterfinal opponents. They potentially have the hardest road in to the BCA of the top 5 seeds.

RIT is 3-1-2 vs. Bentley/SH/AIC
AFA is 3-2-1 vs. Army/Bentley/SH
HC is 3-3-1 vs. UConn/Hurst/Canisius
NU is 1-3-1 vs. RMU/UConn
RMU is 4-0-1 vs. NU/UConn

Niagara has had goaltending concerns for most of the year. First Chubek got injured for the season, then Hare left the team. Campbell came in midseason. They are playing with only two goalies on the squad. That loss to Connecticut was a game in which Niagara outshot them 55-25. Some of the RMU games were fairly wide in shots too. Both Campbell and Noonan seem to be settling down so those losses maybe would be different under today's situation.

Rochester
02-27-2011, 10:11 AM
When is the official playoff schedule coming out?

slewwwwwfoot!
02-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Niagara is a natural rival.
I don't disagree.


They are/will be one of RIT's top competition in the AHA.
True.


RIT had trouble beating them back in the DIII days and it has continued into DI.
For D1, based on a sample size of a handful of games, only one of which actually mattered - the first one this season.


This long losing streak to Niagara means a lot to me and I am sure a lot of other long time RIT hockey fans.
With all due respect, I don't care what it means to you or long-time hockey fans. All I'm getting at is that people keep throwing up this record and saying "oh my god, they always beat us, we'll never win!" That's stupid. No matter which way you slice it. It's meaningless in this sense.

Rivalry? Sure. I look forward to it. The players have no idea what the hell people like you are on about, though. They haven't been here and haven't been paying attention to RIT hockey for more than maybe 5 years, for the seniors graduating who got recruited a year before. The record doesn't matter to anyone but nostalgic fans like yourself. The rivalry now is based on the fact that they're two good teams going at it in the same league. Little more.

komey1
02-27-2011, 11:51 AM
I'm sure what Coach Wilson says on the air is often times a LOT differant than what is said in the locker room. What does it say when your coach public rips the team a new one shortly after a defeat? Do you want him to call out players in public? I don't. All that stuff should say in the locker rooms. And yes, sometimes the bounces don't go your way no matter how hard you try.

Bottom line is the team got done what needed to be done this season - win the regular season title. Those Western pod games are doing to be killer for Robert Morris and Niagara. In a one game situation, one bad bounce or one hot goalie could change anything.

slewwwwwfoot!
02-27-2011, 11:54 AM
I'm sure what Coach Wilson says on the air is often times a LOT differant than what is said in the locker room. What does it say when your coach public rips the team a new one shortly after a defeat? Do you want him to call out players in public? I don't. All that stuff should say in the locker rooms. And yes, sometimes the bounces don't go your way no matter how hard you try.

Fair point, but there's a world of difference between saying we played poorly and have things to improve on than to call players out. I have no problem with a coach being able to admit his team under-performed. In fact, I applaud it. Communication to everyone outside of the organization is important. I'd like to know the coach is reasonable and down-to-earth, not just a yes-man blind to their deficiencies.


Bottom line is the team got done what needed to be done this season - win the regular season title. Those Western pod games are doing to be killer for Robert Morris and Niagara. In a one game situation, one bad bounce or one hot goalie could change anything.

Very true. Keep our fingers crossed!

Rochester
02-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Do you guys think if we make it the final in the tournament RIT could sell-out the the BCA?

Rochester
02-27-2011, 03:58 PM
Go Tigers!

cplinford
02-27-2011, 04:01 PM
Do you guys think if we make it the final in the tournament RIT could sell-out the the BCA?

No there wouldn't be enough time to build it up before hand. But hopefully we'd get 3-4k

RIT Winters
02-27-2011, 04:07 PM
No there wouldn't be enough time to build it up before hand. But hopefully we'd get 3-4k

I think 3-4k is a bit low, given we sell out Ritter days in advance for much less important games. I have no expectations of selling out, but I could definitely see 6k.

Choose Death
02-27-2011, 04:18 PM
theres no way there would be a sell out for BCA in the finals. I dont think we really have a team this year that too many people are getting excited about. yes we have a good record in the AHA but thats not saying much. this team just doesnt have the gas that we need to get too far in the playoffs.

blazer777
02-27-2011, 04:26 PM
I think 3-4k is a bit low, given we sell out Ritter days in advance for much less important games. I have no expectations of selling out, but I could definitely see 6k.

3,289 was attendance for last years AHA final against Sacred Heart. If it's the Tigers and a nearby team, might make a difference in increasing that number.

komey1
02-27-2011, 05:56 PM
RIT-Niagara as a final could get 4-5K. But barring upsets, that would be a semifinal. RIT-AFA could get 3K for sure with MAYBE 4K.

RIT Winters
02-27-2011, 06:20 PM
3,289 was attendance for last years AHA final against Sacred Heart. If it's the Tigers and a nearby team, might make a difference in increasing that number.

I'd argue there is a lot more hype now after last years miracle run. The AHA finals last year obviously took place before the Frozen Four which gave us so much attention. I'm pretty sure people would want to go to the championship to say they were there in case the team makes another run. I don't have the numbers off hand, but I'm not so sure they sold out Ritter every non-break game last year, either.

blazer777
02-27-2011, 07:28 PM
I'd argue there is a lot more hype now after last years miracle run. The AHA finals last year obviously took place before the Frozen Four which gave us so much attention. I'm pretty sure people would want to go to the championship to say they were there in case the team makes another run. I don't have the numbers off hand, but I'm not so sure they sold out Ritter every non-break game last year, either.

I'll give in to that argument. RIT is ranked 33rd in Div 1 for attendance.

For 15 home games, including BCW and Wilfrid Laurier, the team has had 39,143 in attendance for an average of 2610.

Compared to 2009/2010 where attendance was 29,861 for 17 home games, they are ahead of last year pace.

Rochester
02-28-2011, 11:27 AM
Is there a trophy for winning the regular season?