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LtPowers
02-15-2011, 07:43 AM
McReynolds has been sick. He'll probably play in the next game.

But who do you sit? Burt? Knowles and Smith have both been playing well.


Powers &8^]

Zyklon
02-15-2011, 09:06 AM
But who do you sit? Burt? Knowles and Smith have both been playing well.


Powers &8^]

couldnt we just not dress one of the goalies?

Haaafs
02-15-2011, 09:38 AM
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I feel like Burt plays his hardest when he's making bad decisions, and I actually encourage some of the things he does. That may sound like a bad thing, but the guy is trying to make plays and fire the team up. When he's not making questionable passes and retaliating is generally when I think he's not giving it his all. It's obvious that other teams are not letting him into open space. I truly believe it started against Wisconsin last year. I was there watching the game, and I noticed that every time he had the puck, there were at least 2 guys on him. Teams this year have "copied" that style of play against him. He was our biggest playmaker, and I think he can still be that guy. Sure, a little more discipline couldn't hurt. But for every penalty he's getting, he's drawing at least one. I was not a fan of the cross-check last Friday, but I understand why he did it. He got hit into the boards, looked up at the ref, and when there was no call, he wanted to make sure the opposing player knew he wasn't just going to take that kind of hit. I encourage his intensity at those times, and sometimes I feel like some of the other players need to match that intensity.

LtPowers
02-15-2011, 11:53 AM
couldnt we just not dress one of the goalies?

You could, but then you'd be stuck with 13 forwards and only four lines to put them on.


Powers &8^]

burgie12
02-15-2011, 12:06 PM
You could, but then you'd be stuck with 13 forwards and only four lines to put them on.
Actually, you can't. You're limited to 18 skaters and up to 3 goalies. Only dressing 2 goalies doesn't change the fact that you can only dress 18 skaters.

Ref Hater
02-15-2011, 01:21 PM
Sometimes I read these posts and laugh. I read about penalties, refs, lineups, certain players, goalies, goon opposition....and you guys have a first place and defending Frozen Four team....

What do you think AIC or Sacred Heart are complaining about right now?

TigerFan86-87
02-15-2011, 01:40 PM
What do you think AIC or Sacred Heart are complaining about right now?

Nothing. That's their biggest problem... no fans.

d4rksabre
02-15-2011, 02:00 PM
Sometimes I read these posts and laugh. I read about penalties, refs, lineups, certain players, goalies, goon opposition....and you guys have a first place and defending Frozen Four team....

What do you think AIC or Sacred Heart are complaining about right now?

We complain because we care.

kbranch
02-15-2011, 03:44 PM
It's obvious that other teams are not letting him into open space. I truly believe it started against Wisconsin last year. I was there watching the game, and I noticed that every time he had the puck, there were at least 2 guys on him. Teams this year have "copied" that style of play against him. He was our biggest playmaker, and I think he can still be that guy. Sure, a little more discipline couldn't hurt. But for every penalty he's getting, he's drawing at least one. I was not a fan of the cross-check last Friday, but I understand why he did it. He got hit into the boards, looked up at the ref, and when there was no call, he wanted to make sure the opposing player knew he wasn't just going to take that kind of hit. I encourage his intensity at those times, and sometimes I feel like some of the other players need to match that intensity.

Burt's role has changed this year for sure. It is no surprise that teams key on him - he got a lot of exposure last year and we are no longer a team of best-kept secrets. In this regard we are a victim of our own successes, but this is a good problem to have. We can roll with it and adapt, or we can fight it and self destruct. I agree that Wilson usually has a handle on these types of challenges.

komey1
02-15-2011, 05:18 PM
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I feel like Burt plays his hardest when he's making bad decisions, and I actually encourage some of the things he does. That may sound like a bad thing, but the guy is trying to make plays and fire the team up.

I don't think anyone is debating how hard Burt plays. But there is a differance between playing hard and playing smart. We know Burt is capable is better play. If he plays a little smarter, RIT could very well be a factor again in the post season.

blazer777
02-16-2011, 06:03 AM
Inside College Hockey has Shane as their player of the week and a nice but short write up on the defense.

http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2011/02/14/firstshift_0920/

Haaafs
02-16-2011, 09:01 AM
I don't think anyone is debating how hard Burt plays. But there is a differance between playing hard and playing smart. We know Burt is capable is better play. If he plays a little smarter, RIT could very well be a factor again in the post season.

I'm not sure Burt is the main issue going into the postseason. I think the main issue is our offense in general. Favot and Brenner have been carrying us offensively. They have a great connection. However, the other lines are lackluster. While the top line seems to have a strategy for attacking the net, the other lines seem to just be passing around in hopes that an opportunity presents itself on its own. (Which usually happens through a defensive mistake.) Maybe that means more/different designed plays. Maybe that means mixing up the lines. I thought Smith did a fantastic job filling in. He might be a key to bringing in more goals from the other lines.

I mean sure, discipline is always something that needs to be addressed. But we are drawing just as many penalties as we are getting. And since we score more power play goals than we give up, I'm actually not too concerned.

d4rksabre
02-16-2011, 10:39 AM
I'm not sure Burt is the main issue going into the postseason. I think the main issue is our offense in general. Favot and Brenner have been carrying us offensively. They have a great connection. However, the other lines are lackluster. While the top line seems to have a strategy for attacking the net, the other lines seem to just be passing around in hopes that an opportunity presents itself on its own. (Which usually happens through a defensive mistake.) Maybe that means more/different designed plays. Maybe that means mixing up the lines. I thought Smith did a fantastic job filling in. He might be a key to bringing in more goals from the other lines.

I mean sure, discipline is always something that needs to be addressed. But we are drawing just as many penalties as we are getting. And since we score more power play goals than we give up, I'm actually not too concerned.

Murphy's performance has been of concern to me this year. I don't know if he's playing hurt or was told to take the edge off, but he doesn't seem to be cruising around the offensive zone killing anything that moves like he did last season. I want to know where angry Murph went? The Animal needs to be let out of his cage.

slewwwwwfoot!
02-16-2011, 10:58 AM
I'm not sure Burt is the main issue going into the postseason. I think the main issue is our offense in general. Favot and Brenner have been carrying us offensively. They have a great connection. However, the other lines are lackluster. While the top line seems to have a strategy for attacking the net, the other lines seem to just be passing around in hopes that an opportunity presents itself on its own. (Which usually happens through a defensive mistake.) Maybe that means more/different designed plays. Maybe that means mixing up the lines. I thought Smith did a fantastic job filling in. He might be a key to bringing in more goals from the other lines.

From what I've seen, that offensive strategy that's working for the top line is "Brenner fights his way to the top of the crease." I'm not sure if other lines aren't trying this or if we don't have that capability on other lines, but Brenner is notable for it.


I mean sure, discipline is always something that needs to be addressed. But we are drawing just as many penalties as we are getting. And since we score more power play goals than we give up, I'm actually not too concerned.

As was mentioned above - PIMs may be roughly equal, but PP opportunities are slanted against us (I think the number was 33 more against). Granted, a PP opportunity could last 5 seconds or 5 minutes and be counted the same; but 33 is a large enough figure that it seems significant.

Haaafs
02-16-2011, 01:30 PM
From what I've seen, that offensive strategy that's working for the top line is "Brenner fights his way to the top of the crease." I'm not sure if other lines aren't trying this or if we don't have that capability on other lines, but Brenner is notable for it.

I never said it was a complex strategy. Haha. But you're right on the money. The other lines rarely have players camping in front of the net. I'm not sure why. I'm sure the majority of Brenner's goals aren't pretty, but since when are we a finesse team? We have a couple guys who have plenty of size. Certainly I wouldn't expect Knowles to sit there. Mitchell, Hartley, and Janda are all big guys. I'm sure they could handle sitting in front of the net.

Too often I see the puck stuck in the corner and all 3 forwards trying to dig it out. Sure, that increases the odds of winning the puck control battle, but what are they going to do when they win it? Their only options are to try to take it to the net themselves somehow or send it to the point. Then the guy at the point either has to take a low-percentage shot or do nothing, because no forward is in a position to score and no one is screening the goaltender. If they're lucky, the other defenseman catches the other team sleeping and can slip into the slot, but that's a pretty rare case.

Ed Trefzger
02-16-2011, 01:36 PM
Madolora leads USCHO's Three Stars of the Week:

http://www.uscho.com/2011/02/16/madolora-cannata-gron-named-uschos-three-stars-for-feb-16/

slewwwwwfoot!
02-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Madolora leads USCHO's Three Stars of the Week:

http://www.uscho.com/2011/02/16/madolora-cannata-gron-named-uschos-three-stars-for-feb-16/

Nice! I made sure to submit him :)

JRZ DVLS
02-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Madolora leads USCHO's Three Stars of the Week:

http://www.uscho.com/2011/02/16/madolora-cannata-gron-named-uschos-three-stars-for-feb-16/


Nice! I made sure to submit him :)


Same here.

komey1
02-16-2011, 03:55 PM
Same here.


And on the note of offense, you do realize that 5 players are in double digits in goals, so they must be doing something right.

RITProf
02-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Me too! :)