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WildShawn
02-16-2011, 09:35 PM
C) every infraction has already been listed in this thread, pulled directly from the ncaa site, and believe me there is a sh!*ton of them.

D) the black bears are a non factor. better luck next year

E)FORE! (years in a row)

UNHhockey29
02-16-2011, 09:40 PM
please post the SPECIFIC infractions, including details or shut tfu

also, when you add the asterisks about where Maine had specific permission from the NCAA and then the NCAA went back and cited Maine for those infractions, point those out as well.

also... when you DO go and list what Maine did, please compare those infractions to what Syrcacuse basketball did and was never cited for.... k?
Ok I'll bite....

Well let's see, pretty sure this was all in 94...
17 student athletes (most of whom were hockey players) were let into a dining hall free of charge (against NCAA rules when all other students have to pay)
Hockey players were allowed to use the fitness center free of charge when all other students had to pay (again against NCAA rules)
Cal Ingraham had to sit out the first 14 games of the hockey season when the university discovered it had made an error in transferring his academic credits, and by "sit out" I'm pretty sure that means he played and Maine then had to forfeit the wins they got during those 14 games.
Jeff Tory was declared ineligible by the NCAA because he had failed to meet the NCAA's requirement that student-athletes maintain a 2.0 grade point average in high school, that was also during the 14 games that had to be forfeited.

Is that what you were looking for?

Also *** does basketball have to do with hockey?

thecomicbookguy
02-16-2011, 09:53 PM
Ok I'll bite....

Well let's see, pretty sure this was all in 94...
17 student athletes (most of whom were hockey players) were let into a dining hall free of charge (against NCAA rules when all other students have to pay) and got free pudding
Hockey players were allowed to use the pudding center free of charge when all other students had to pay (again against NCAA rules)
Cal Ingraham had to sit out the first 14 puddings of the hockey season when the university discovered it had made an error in transferring his pudding credits, and by "sit out" I'm pretty sure that means he played and Maine then had to forfeit the pudding they got during those 14 games.
Jeff Tory was declared pudding by the NCAA because he had failed to meet the NCAA's requirement that student-athletes maintain a 2.0 pudding average in high school, that was also during the 14 pudding that had to be forfeited.

Saved KIA some time and fixed yer post. ;)

(Remember, it was all just pudding.)

UNHhockey29
02-16-2011, 09:55 PM
Saved KIA some time and fixed yer post. ;)

Haha... thank you. Don't want any confusion out there!

MAINEhockeyFireWhitehead
02-17-2011, 02:28 AM
UNH was also sanctioned by the ncaa and still has no titles the long lasting legacy of the University Of No Hardware we have 2 what about you?

thecomicbookguy
02-17-2011, 06:20 AM
UNH was also sanctioned by the ncaa and still has no titles the long lasting legacy of the University Of No Hardware we have 2 what about you?

A) We understand grammar. Commas. Look into them. Also, try to stick to one "thought" per sentence.
B) UNH has never won the NCAA title, and they still managed to sweep Maine this season, in three pretty awesome games. How about that?

WildShawn
02-17-2011, 08:20 AM
UNH was also sanctioned by the ncaa and still has no titles the long lasting legacy of the University Of No Hardware we have 2* what about you?

hahaha, apples and oranges. How many games did UNH have to forefit? How many post seasons was UNH banned from and how many seasons was Umile suspended for?

In relation, UNH's email mixup compared to the dirtiest program in College Hockey History is like comparing the post season success of St. Cloud vs. North Dakota

Erix_The_Red
02-17-2011, 08:51 AM
Ok I'll bite....

Well let's see, pretty sure this was all in 94...
17 student athletes (most of whom were hockey players) were let into a dining hall free of charge (against NCAA rules when all other students have to pay)
Hockey players were allowed to use the fitness center free of charge when all other students had to pay (again against NCAA rules)
Cal Ingraham had to sit out the first 14 games of the hockey season when the university discovered it had made an error in transferring his academic credits, and by "sit out" I'm pretty sure that means he played and Maine then had to forfeit the wins they got during those 14 games.
Jeff Tory was declared ineligible by the NCAA because he had failed to meet the NCAA's requirement that student-athletes maintain a 2.0 grade point average in high school, that was also during the 14 games that had to be forfeited.

Maybe it was different back then, but when I went to school:
Assuming you had any kind of meal plan, it was near impossible (especially for a student athlete) to use more meals than they had.
The fitness center is paid for by a fee that you can not opt-out of.
Wasn't the academic ineligibility due to a difference in the understanding of how pass/fail works? Soooooo dirty.

GoUNH
02-17-2011, 09:54 AM
Maybe it was different back then, but when I went to school:
Assuming you had any kind of meal plan, it was near impossible (especially for a student athlete) to use more meals than they had.
The fitness center is paid for by a fee that you can not opt-out of.
Wasn't the academic ineligibility due to a difference in the understanding of how pass/fail works? Soooooo dirty.

? Its pass or fail. Where is the gray area

Erix_The_Red
02-17-2011, 09:56 AM
? Its pass or fail. Where is the gray area

The question was what to count a pass as for GPA

acs64
02-17-2011, 12:51 PM
UNH was also sanctioned by the ncaa and still has no titles the long lasting legacy of the University Of No Hardware we have 2 what about you?

C'mon MHFW....give it to those western pansies. Dont let up now gd it. Stay right on the gas pedal !!!! :D:D:D

GoUNH
02-17-2011, 01:06 PM
The question was what to count a pass as for GPA

Its a number. You are either at the number or below it. If that's the attitude the school took I can see why the NCAA came down harder for failing to cooperate during the investigation. Where is the gray area

KnowItAll
02-17-2011, 01:52 PM
UNH was also sanctioned by the ncaa and still has no titles the long lasting legacy of the University Of No Hardware we have 2 what about you?

that is right, and to play the idiot game (like the people who are merely looking at the NUMBER of infractions.)
scott borek was guilty of infinitely more infractions than maine ever was... you see each email over the allowed number is a single infraction.

UNH... THOUSANDS of infractions.
Maine, only about 50.

gosh... WILDSHAWN and whoever else doesn'ty understand thse sorts of things...
see what happens when you are not willing to THINK?
or are you not able to comprehend that either?

BassAle
02-17-2011, 01:55 PM
Its a number. You are either at the number or below it. If that's the attitude the school took I can see why the NCAA came down harder for failing to cooperate during the investigation. Where is the gray area

the grey area is when you calculate a GPA what number does a "pass" grade count as. Maine interpreted it to be one thing (a 2.0 maybe?) while the NCAA equates it with something else, and the difference changed the eligibility of the player. If I remember right the player had a number of "pass" grades from high school?

KnowItAll
02-17-2011, 01:56 PM
A) We understand grammar. Commas. Look into them. Also, try to stick to one "thought" per sentence.
B) UNH has never won the NCAA title, and they still managed to sweep Maine this season, in three pretty awesome games. How about that?

really??? I got a good idea that you are fluent in 1337 speak, but you feel a need to pick on comma use on a board like this?

KnowItAll
02-17-2011, 02:03 PM
Ok I'll bite....

Well let's see, pretty sure this was all in 94...
17 student athletes (most of whom were hockey players) were let into a dining hall free of charge (against NCAA rules when all other students have to pay)
Hockey players were allowed to use the fitness center free of charge when all other students had to pay (again against NCAA rules)
Cal Ingraham had to sit out the first 14 games of the hockey season when the university discovered it had made an error in transferring his academic credits, and by "sit out" I'm pretty sure that means he played and Maine then had to forfeit the wins they got during those 14 games.
Jeff Tory was declared ineligible by the NCAA because he had failed to meet the NCAA's requirement that student-athletes maintain a 2.0 grade point average in high school, that was also during the 14 games that had to be forfeited.

Is that what you were looking for?

Also *** does basketball have to do with hockey?

there, finally a set of 3 or 4 specific infractions.

I will agree that most of these 4 or so infractions are bad... but a lot of dolts online seem to think that Maine was guilty of hundreds of bad things...
there were hundreds of idiotic missteps that the NCAA used to bolster its case, and three or 4 bad things that should have been punished... and they were.

re:Cal Ingraham... it is my recollection that he was inelligible because the compliance people at Air Force messed up the paperwork that they sent to Maine... so there was another one that should not have been hung on Shawn...

the NCAA acted almost completely unreasonably
Pat Tardiff was another that was hung on Shawn, unfairly

the dolts are going to be VERY unhappy when/if the NCAA investigates the reason why UNH does well in the regular season and not so well in the post season.... (hint... motherwell and o'hanley found out the hard way what happens if you are not aware that you are playing in an NCAA sponosred game as opposed to a regular season game)
GRIN!

BassAle
02-17-2011, 02:05 PM
Maybe it was different back then, but when I went to school:
Assuming you had any kind of meal plan, it was near impossible (especially for a student athlete) to use more meals than they had.
The fitness center is paid for by a fee that you can not opt-out of.


The students that got free meals were off-campus hockey players with no meal plan. This was unauthorized (whomever was working at the register took it upon themselves to let the players eat free of charge). The dining services discovered this when they found that cash reciepts went up when this person went on vacation and down when she was back. The total value of the meals was calculated to be around $600 and the players were forced to pay, ranging from like $10 to $60 depending on how many meals they determined they had been given.

Before the new fitness center students paid an optional fee to use old one. The University allowed athletes to use the fitness center free of charge during the off-season (maybe they were allowed to use it free of charge during the on season since there may not have been separate facilities for athletes at that time, I'm not sure, but what I read had specifically mentioned it was because of summer access).

WildShawn
02-17-2011, 02:34 PM
that is right, and to play the idiot game (like the people who are merely looking at the NUMBER of infractions.)
scott borek was guilty of infinitely more infractions than maine ever was... you see each email over the allowed number is a single infraction.

UNH... THOUSANDS of infractions.
Maine, only about 50.

gosh... WILDSHAWN and whoever else doesn'ty understand thse sorts of things...
see what happens when you are not willing to THINK?
or are you not able to comprehend that either?

I don't care about a number, I care about severity, especially in relation to the rest college hockey. How many scolarships was UNH docked? How many games did UNH have to forefit? How many post seasons were the Wildcats BANNED from and how many seasons did Umile get suspended for?
Not condoning ANY violations, but they're not even in the same PLANET.

Erix_The_Red
02-17-2011, 02:35 PM
The students that got free meals were off-campus hockey players with no meal plan. This was unauthorized (whomever was working at the register took it upon themselves to let the players eat free of charge). The dining services discovered this when they found that cash reciepts went up when this person went on vacation and down when she was back. The total value of the meals was calculated to be around $600 and the players were forced to pay, ranging from like $10 to $60 depending on how many meals they determined they had been given.

Sounds like a student employee's fault and all was resolved.

WildShawn
02-17-2011, 02:36 PM
the dolts are going to be VERY unhappy when/if the NCAA investigates the reason why UNH does well in the regular season and not so well in the post season.... (hint... motherwell and o'hanley found out the hard way what happens if you are not aware that you are playing in an NCAA sponosred game as opposed to a regular season game)
GRIN!

Um.
huh?
(Motherwell and O'Hanley were kicked off of their team by their coach after getting caught with something they shouldn't have been caught with while in Michigan after the ice breaker)