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4four4
02-20-2011, 08:04 PM
Home Ice! How do you like us now, WCHA?

Meh.

Congrats.

The season is not done and wait until you watch the Final Five.

LincolnMav
02-20-2011, 11:41 PM
Meh.

Congrats.

The season is not done and wait until you watch the Final Five.

I cannot waaaait to watch the Final Five. Looking forward to it! Hopefully UNO can secure the 2nd seed.

MAVFANJEFF
02-20-2011, 11:48 PM
I think it would be great to see Jesse Martin drop the first puck this weekend. Hope he's doing better.

Red Cows
02-21-2011, 01:10 AM
Here's an interesting thing I stumbled upon tonight:

http://www.playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournperformprob.html

They basically give us almost no chance to win the WCHA, only a 10% chance, even if we win out:

http://www.playoffstatus.com/wchahockey/nebraska-omahawhatif.html

They like us to end up 4th. I am an eternal optimist and I think we end up 2nd.

LincolnMav
02-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Hey at least we control our own destiny to finish 2nd. I dont think anyone thought we'd be in this position. Lets embrace it and go freaking get it! Lets rock the Qwest this weekend!

dubbie31
02-21-2011, 11:40 PM
So I must ask this....

I am bring my parents for the Friday night game. Tickets are sorted. Which is the better place? JDs or Farrells???

I want the better food, beer, more fans....atmosphere...friendly banter.

NoClu
02-22-2011, 12:50 AM
So I must ask this....

I am bring my parents for the Friday night game. Tickets are sorted. Which is the better place? JDs or Farrells???

I want the better food, beer, more fans....atmosphere...friendly banter.

You will be well served in either place. Farrells is a smaller location. DJ's is a bit loud, high ceilings, but a block closer to the Qwest. I haven't eaten at Farrells, there are lots of places to eat in the Old Market. If you have time, roam around a bit (depending on the weather.) Only 28 degrees as a high on Friday, so walking with parents could be at a minimum from hotel/parking.

Where are you staying?

dubbie31
02-22-2011, 05:12 PM
You will be well served in either place. Farrells is a smaller location. DJ's is a bit loud, high ceilings, but a block closer to the Qwest. I haven't eaten at Farrells, there are lots of places to eat in the Old Market. If you have time, roam around a bit (depending on the weather.) Only 28 degrees as a high on Friday, so walking with parents could be at a minimum from hotel/parking.

Where are you staying?

I'm actually staying in Topeka and we're all driving up. Getting there between 430 and 5pm. Shorter the walk, the better...

SCSU Euro
02-22-2011, 09:32 PM
One more victory and we are at that all important 20 win season, required for consideration into the NCAAs. We have had a few really bad losses, but we have huge wins against some really good teams.

Just so you know, hockey is not like NCAA basketball, there is no "selection," there is no consideration, no quality wins, no bad losses.... its all math. Win the conference playoffs and you're automatically in, then they fill the rest with the top teams in the PWR, where you guys are currently tied for 8th.

Red Cows
02-23-2011, 01:10 AM
Crazy idea that me and a couple buddies floated tonight over a couple beers.

Maybe not so crazy.

What with all the Big 10 Hockey Conference talk and, as things stand now, that being a 6 team league, why couldn't UNO petition the Big 10 to become a league member in hockey and hockey alone? This is certainly not without precedence. For example, Notre Dame is a member of the Big East, in basketball alone. I realize that we are talking Notre Dame and UNO, however, I can think of at least some reasons that this might pass muster with the Big 10.

First and foremost, is that UNO is part of the same university system that the University of Nebraska at Lincoln is. I don't need to remind everyone who the newest member of the Big 10 is.

Second, it certainly makes some geographic sense.

Third, it also solves the 6 school problem since nobody else in the Big 10 has made serious public overtures about going D-1 in hockey despite the precense of strong club programs at Indiana, Illinois, and Nebraska and maybe even some of the other schools that I am not aware of. Maybe somebody else coattails along under the same pretenses with UNO out of the CCHA or WCHA with them to make an 8 team league. Notre Dame? I promise you, the Big 10 would be interested in that.

As an aside to this, it would also potentially make the University of Nebraska at Lincoln publicly state whether they are or are not interested in doing this themselves, now, or, in the future. This has already been the source of some conjecture around here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8044

I note that there are no plans that I am aware of to put ice-making capability in the new arena that UNL is building in conjunction with the City of Lincoln. One could infer that they aren't a player in the Big 10 hockey game, then (unless they are planning to play at the Ice Box!). By doing this UNO could effectively erase UNL as a competitor in ice hockey. I don't know if the state could support two programs, anyway. My hope is that UNL (the regents) would realize that and not step on UNO's toes, particularly since UNO hockey is SO important to UNO's Athletic Department and Title 9 considerations there. The way I see it, UNL might even aid UNO in making this happen with the Big 10.

Whatever goes down, it's going to be an interesting next couple years or so. Anybody have thoughts on why this wouldn't, couldn't, or shouldn't happen?

SCSU Euro
02-23-2011, 01:56 AM
Crazy idea that me and a couple buddies floated tonight over a couple beers.

Maybe not so crazy.

What with all the Big 10 Hockey Conference talk and, as things stand now, that being a 6 team league, why couldn't UNO petition the Big 10 to become a league member in hockey and hockey alone? This is certainly not without precedence. For example, Notre Dame is a member of the Big East, in basketball alone. I realize that we are talking Notre Dame and UNO, however, I can think of at least some reasons that this might pass muster with the Big 10.

First and foremost, is that UNO is part of the same university system that the University of Nebraska at Lincoln is. I don't need to remind everyone who the newest member of the Big 10 is.

Second, it certainly makes some geographic sense.

Third, it also solves the 6 school problem since nobody else in the Big 10 has made serious public overtures about going D-1 in hockey despite the precense of strong club programs at Indiana, Illinois, and Nebraska and maybe even some of the other schools that I am not aware of. Maybe somebody else coattails along under the same pretenses with UNO out of the CCHA or WCHA with them to make an 8 team league. Notre Dame? I promise you, the Big 10 would be interested in that.

As an aside to this, it would also potentially make the University of Nebraska at Lincoln publicly state whether they are or are not interested in doing this themselves, now, or, in the future. This has already been the source of some conjecture around here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8044

I note that there are no plans that I am aware of to put ice-making capability in the new arena that UNL is building in conjunction with the City of Lincoln. One could infer that they aren't a player in the Big 10 hockey game, then (unless they are planning to play at the Ice Box!). By doing this UNO could effectively erase UNL as a competitor in ice hockey. I don't know if the state could support two programs, anyway. My hope is that UNL (the regents) would realize that and not step on UNO's toes, particularly since UNO hockey is SO important to UNO's Athletic Department and Title 9 considerations there. The way I see it, UNL might even aid UNO in making this happen with the Big 10.

Whatever goes down, it's going to be an interesting next couple years or so. Anybody have thoughts on why this wouldn't, couldn't, or shouldn't happen?

Great idea. Now get in line behind North Dakota, Denver, Duluth, Miami and Notre Dame.

LincolnMav
02-23-2011, 08:51 AM
I'm actually staying in Topeka and we're all driving up. Getting there between 430 and 5pm. Shorter the walk, the better...

Then DJ's is your answer, its literally right across the street from Qwest at 10th & Capitol.

LincolnMav
02-23-2011, 08:52 AM
Crazy idea that me and a couple buddies floated tonight over a couple beers.

Maybe not so crazy.

What with all the Big 10 Hockey Conference talk and, as things stand now, that being a 6 team league, why couldn't UNO petition the Big 10 to become a league member in hockey and hockey alone? This is certainly not without precedence. For example, Notre Dame is a member of the Big East, in basketball alone. I realize that we are talking Notre Dame and UNO, however, I can think of at least some reasons that this might pass muster with the Big 10.

First and foremost, is that UNO is part of the same university system that the University of Nebraska at Lincoln is. I don't need to remind everyone who the newest member of the Big 10 is.

Second, it certainly makes some geographic sense.

Third, it also solves the 6 school problem since nobody else in the Big 10 has made serious public overtures about going D-1 in hockey despite the precense of strong club programs at Indiana, Illinois, and Nebraska and maybe even some of the other schools that I am not aware of. Maybe somebody else coattails along under the same pretenses with UNO out of the CCHA or WCHA with them to make an 8 team league. Notre Dame? I promise you, the Big 10 would be interested in that.

As an aside to this, it would also potentially make the University of Nebraska at Lincoln publicly state whether they are or are not interested in doing this themselves, now, or, in the future. This has already been the source of some conjecture around here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8044

I note that there are no plans that I am aware of to put ice-making capability in the new arena that UNL is building in conjunction with the City of Lincoln. One could infer that they aren't a player in the Big 10 hockey game, then (unless they are planning to play at the Ice Box!). By doing this UNO could effectively erase UNL as a competitor in ice hockey. I don't know if the state could support two programs, anyway. My hope is that UNL (the regents) would realize that and not step on UNO's toes, particularly since UNO hockey is SO important to UNO's Athletic Department and Title 9 considerations there. The way I see it, UNL might even aid UNO in making this happen with the Big 10.

Whatever goes down, it's going to be an interesting next couple years or so. Anybody have thoughts on why this wouldn't, couldn't, or shouldn't happen?

I just dont see that happening ever. If anything, UNL starts hockey before UNO gets into the Big 10.

NoClu
02-23-2011, 09:04 AM
Why would UNO want to be in a Big 10 Hockey league. To be ******ed on or otherwise mal-treated and ignored by an admnistration which wouldn't likely be concerned about anything outside of their "high profile" schools? We spent 10+ years in the CCHA, that was enough.

gomavs#1
02-23-2011, 10:22 AM
SCSU -
Interesting information....I always was under the impression that in order to even be considered for NCAAs you had to have 20 wins. I knew they simply went down the line with the PWR, but I thought that if you didn't have 20 wins, the PWR didn't matter, you weren't receiving a bid. Thanks for droppin' some knowledge...of course, I need to tell Dean Blais that because I swear he mentioned that at his last radio show.

MavRick
02-23-2011, 10:52 AM
Maybe we could do a little reading before we go yipping off, yes?

1) Agreed with NoClu. UNO is treated with respect in the W. We'd be a second-class citizen from the moment we joined the BTHC. The parallel with our treatment in the CCHA is if anything not strong enough. The WCHA will remain a power conference without MN and WI. Besides, given the comments of the Penn State guy earlier this week, the BTHC is likely to be in. suffer. able.

2) The PWR is Simple Math (tm). While you have to be a TUC to be in the pairwise, and they fool around occasionally with the TUC criterion, (RPI above .500, record above .500), they won't skip someone with 19 wins who is a TUC, and who is otherwise high enough in the Pairwise. It's tough, but not impossible, to qualify with fewer than 20 wins.

unofan
02-23-2011, 11:30 AM
For example, Notre Dame is a member of the Big East, in basketball alone.
...
Anybody have thoughts on why this wouldn't, couldn't, or shouldn't happen?

First off, Notre Dame is a member of the Big East in everything but football. So you've got that one wrong.

As to why it wouldn't work, because only marginal conference tend to have "affiliate members." Ask yourself this, what the hell would the Big Ten gain out of adding UNO to their conference? Why would Indiana want to dilute its TV money for UNO (or any other non-Big 10 school)?

SCSU Euro
02-23-2011, 02:23 PM
SCSU -
Interesting information....I always was under the impression that in order to even be considered for NCAAs you had to have 20 wins. I knew they simply went down the line with the PWR, but I thought that if you didn't have 20 wins, the PWR didn't matter, you weren't receiving a bid. Thanks for droppin' some knowledge...of course, I need to tell Dean Blais that because I swear he mentioned that at his last radio show.

Hey, at least they made the .500 deal. Ask Mankato fans about that one... few years back they finished 4th in the league, got beat by the Goofs at home in the playoffs (one of the best WCHA playoff series ever; Kangas vs. Zacharias, lots of overtimes, low-scoring three-game spectacular!), and then a 6th place, swept by us in the the first round and SUB .500 Wisconsin stole their spot. And wanna know when you come down to looking at it what caused it? You guys sweeping them that year. :D

dubbie31
02-24-2011, 04:21 PM
Then DJ's is your answer, its literally right across the street from Qwest at 10th & Capitol.

Very nice! How many of you will be there???

Red Cows
02-25-2011, 01:45 AM
"I just dont see that happening ever. If anything, UNL starts hockey before UNO gets into the Big 10."


Then we better see them putting ice making capability in that new arena downtown, something that ain't currently part of the design.

Further, we could then make UNL commit one way or the other by doing applying. I have been told by several individuals that Tom Osborne is pretty cool to the idea of hockey at UNL although I don't know why that would be and I don't know if it's true, even. It would certainly become a better revenue sport than basketball ever will. NU basketball is nobody, doing nothing, going nowhere. Never has and never will. New facilities or not. If UNL did upgrade to D-1 hockey, I submit that the hockey team would win a National Championship before UNL ever wins a NCAA tournament basketball game. Anybody ever been to a Husker Hockey game? I have, they play in Fremont:

http://www.huskerhockey.com/

It's a disgrace that their isn't ice at the Devaney so they can play there or, that they can't even play at the Icebox, which the University, I believe, now owns.