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DrDemento
02-01-2011, 08:43 PM
Completely unrelated to everything else posted-I have tried to calculate and I have come up with the fact that RPI now should have 965 wins in the program history (difficult because some wins in the past may not be considered wins now). We could conceivably hit the coveted 1000 mark in another season (I hope). I would like to see something to mark this occassion when it happens-any ideas of something appropriate? BTW if anyone has a different total please let me know. I also wonder how many programs have hit this mark-I am sure of a few but have not been able to find any list anywhere.

Wicked Slappaahs
02-01-2011, 10:14 PM
And some very astute hockey fans.

Call me crazy Doc, but I think that if Seth didn't have the boys wearing those socks with the panty hose/ lycra back panels, Bergin might not have gotten nicked so bad....just a thought

PutItBackOn
02-01-2011, 11:37 PM
Ah, so it's CHN that's right and USCHO that's messed up. Gotcha.

Actually, it looks like the 10 TUC rule is back in play according to Todd D. Milewski (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2011/02/01/explaining-a-subtle-change-to-the-pairwise/).

jmhusker
02-01-2011, 11:49 PM
Call me crazy Doc, but I think that if Seth didn't have the boys wearing those socks with the panty hose/ lycra back panels, Bergin might not have gotten nicked so bad....just a thought
I half wondered that myself. On the plus side we'll be able to see the scar when he comes back!

Most of the shins these days wrap almost completely around the leg so I wonder if the cut runs top to bottom rather than across the calf. I'm guessing a top to bottom cut would be better than one that goes across the calf as I should think there is a lot more stress on the muscles in the up and down plane (Z plane) than in a lateral direction. Doc?

rpi82
02-01-2011, 11:53 PM
Completely unrelated to everything else posted-I have tried to calculate and I have come up with the fact that RPI now should have 965 wins in the program history (difficult because some wins in the past may not be considered wins now). We could conceivably hit the coveted 1000 mark in another season (I hope). I would like to see something to mark this occassion when it happens-any ideas of something appropriate? BTW if anyone has a different total please let me know. I also wonder how many programs have hit this mark-I am sure of a few but have not been able to find any list anywhere.

It must be something about the '60s grads. That is a positively Baer-esque obsession................

GreatLakerMohawk
02-02-2011, 01:02 AM
Let me know what you have in mind, I'll see what I can do with getting 33/44 involved.

It's looking to be a good thing to have the various "factions" scattered across HFH.

Well, I sit in the same section with the First Church, just a bit further up in the section. My voice is a bit... Loud, so sometimes I'm good to help things catch on. Usually whatever we all start up will catch on quickly.

Ralph Baer
02-02-2011, 04:23 AM
Ed Weaver article on Polacek and York winning ECAC awards http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2011/02/02/sports/doc4d48d78b9415e023314605.txt?viewmode=fullstory.

Bergin's leg cut was deeper than previously thought. :(

FlagDUDE08
02-02-2011, 06:57 AM
Well, I sit in the same section with the First Church, just a bit further up in the section. My voice is a bit... Loud, so sometimes I'm good to help things catch on. Usually whatever we all start up will catch on quickly.

Mine is a bit loud too, and I'm generally able to pick up on what you guys are doing, so I can get those sections into it. It might be a little interesting if some of use get moved over to the library.

NYhockeyguy
02-02-2011, 09:58 AM
Completely unrelated to everything else posted-I have tried to calculate and I have come up with the fact that RPI now should have 965 wins in the program history (difficult because some wins in the past may not be considered wins now). We could conceivably hit the coveted 1000 mark in another season (I hope). I would like to see something to mark this occassion when it happens-any ideas of something appropriate? BTW if anyone has a different total please let me know. I also wonder how many programs have hit this mark-I am sure of a few but have not been able to find any list anywhere.

this was on hockey db not sure when it was last updated though.



Record
61 Seasons
(GP-W-L-T-OTL-SOL)
1778-921-757-100-0-0
0.546

DrDemento
02-02-2011, 10:26 AM
this was on hockey db not sure when it was last updated though.



Record
61 Seasons
(GP-W-L-T-OTL-SOL)
1778-921-757-100-0-0
0.546

Thanks-but that has to be either way too old or just missing years. I have tried several ways including adding up the wins listed in the RPI Almanacs. Just not sure which wins to discount as non NCAA wins. I would expect number 1000 to be a big deal for us.

DrDemento
02-02-2011, 10:32 AM
I half wondered that myself. On the plus side we'll be able to see the scar when he comes back!

Most of the shins these days wrap almost completely around the leg so I wonder if the cut runs top to bottom rather than across the calf. I'm guessing a top to bottom cut would be better than one that goes across the calf as I should think there is a lot more stress on the muscles in the up and down plane (Z plane) than in a lateral direction. Doc?


JM-basically correct. It all depends on if the muscle is lacerated. If it is just skin-either direction is no big deal but a vertical suture line is under far less tension and heals faster. Stretching of the leg could harm the wound but more so with a horizontal slice as it would put the tension across the wound. If the underling muscle is cut-and I sure hope this is not the case-vertical is also slightly better-but truthfully either direction is bad. Those two heads of the gastrocnemius extend all the way down to the achilles tendon and are responsible for the entire strenghth of the back of the leg. A deep laceration of either head is a lost season at the very least and perhaps a lot more than that. From what little has leaked out-this has to be just skin-Bergin would miss just days with a minor cut and between 10 and 14 days with a deeper one. If this was muscle involved, coach SA would not be talking about his being back in the line up with only 2 weeks healing.
It is a weird injury-you just dont see cuts there frequently. We sure have had the fluky injuries this year.

Ralph Baer
02-02-2011, 10:35 AM
Thanks-but that has to be either way too old or just missing years. I have tried several ways including adding up the wins listed in teh RPI Almanacs. Just not sure which wins to discount as non NCAA wins. I would expect number 1000 to be a big deal for us.

I think that non-NCAA that were counted at the time would still count. They wouldn't disappear retroactively. Using Kurt Stutt's data http://www.augenblick.org/rpi/h_ryy.html and assuming I made no errors, our record going into this season was 947-830-106. That includes the pre-Harkness era. We have a very good chance of getting to 1000 next season.

DrDemento
02-02-2011, 12:28 PM
I think that non-NCAA that were counted at the time would still count. They wouldn't disappear retroactively. Using Kurt Stutt's data http://www.augenblick.org/rpi/h_ryy.html and assuming I made no errors, our record going into this season was 947-830-106. That includes the pre-Harkness era. We have a very good chance of getting to 1000 next season.

That jibes well with my previous number-with 17 wins so far this year we are at 364. I must have included a victory from the past that was not considered NCAA by Kurt's listings. I am hoping we hit the magic number next year. Would be especially nice if win number 1000 was in a really meaningful game like next year's ECAC Championhip or the NCAA Tournament (I'm just doing a little daydreaming now).

FlagDUDE08
02-02-2011, 12:35 PM
That jibes well with my previous number-with 17 wins so far this year we are at 364. I must have included a victory from the past that was not considered NCAA by Kurt's listings. I am hoping we hit the magic number next year. Would be especially nice if win number 1000 was in a really meaningful game like next year's ECAC Championhip or the NCAA Tournament (I'm just doing a little daydreaming now).

Would Freakout be meaningful enough? ;)

Ralph Baer
02-02-2011, 12:45 PM
Would Freakout be meaningful enough? ;)

It seems unlikely since it would mean 36 wins over approxiamtely one season (from one BRF to the next).

DrDemento
02-02-2011, 01:37 PM
Would Freakout be meaningful enough? ;)

Nah-we have won a bunch of those-and until the last few years it was becoming almost routine.;) I am hoping that with the number of games we will need to win to hit 1000 that it comes right at the end or near the end of the year-in one of the playoffs and even better-in the NCAA. I have been fortunate enough to see us get to the NCAA 5 times in 47 years-and it is just not satisfying enough. I think we are now on the path to more frequent visits where anything can happen.:)

DrDemento
02-02-2011, 01:38 PM
It seems unlikely since it would mean 36 wins over approxiamtely one season (from one BRF to the next).

It would appear that would not be possible even if we won out this year. (but that sure would be nice:p)

FlagDUDE08
02-02-2011, 04:39 PM
More ballot box stuffing fun, all! Chase Polacek has been nominated for the CLASS award. You know what to do, here's the link:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/hockey_2010-11/

engineerhockeyfan
02-02-2011, 05:06 PM
More ballot box stuffing fun, all! Chase Polacek has been nominated for the CLASS award. You know what to do, here's the link:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/hockey_2010-11/

Just voted, seems like Chase is going to need a lot of help. :(

Ralph Baer
02-02-2011, 05:09 PM
Just voted, seems like Chase is going to need a lot of help. :(

I voted too.