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Laura
11-27-2010, 06:49 AM
Well, in the Year of the Fan, when Emery is repeatedly quoted as wanting more noise from the fans, and last night when the students were home for Thanksgiving and we "townspeople" were rocking the arena- I was told by Security that I cannot ring my cowbell because it is a noisemaker.

Will they tell the student band members that they cannot blow their trumpets or beat their drums? Will they tell the team that the bench cannot beat the boards with their sticks to make noise?

I am a grey haired old lady fan whose voice is not terribly loud. I only ring the bell after goals and during introductions.

What is wrong with these idiots at the arena?

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
11-27-2010, 08:13 AM
Well, in the Year of the Fan, when Emery is repeatedly quoted as wanting more noise from the fans, and last night when the students were home for Thanksgiving and we "townspeople" were rocking the arena- I was told by Security that I cannot ring my cowbell because it is a noisemaker.

Will they tell the student band members that they cannot blow their trumpets or beat their drums? Will they tell the team that the bench cannot beat the boards with their sticks to make noise?

I am a grey haired old lady fan whose voice is not terribly loud. I only ring the bell after goals and during introductions.

What is wrong with these idiots at the arena?

I swear Bruce was in heaven last night. He got security to yell at every noisemaker there, and the music was nothing but country music and 80's music (and not the good kind of 80's music), none of which stood a chance of getting anybody, player or fan, riled up and excited for an intense game of hockey. Granted, I like country music... but NOT during the game! Longneck Bottle 6 times during one game? Seriously?

This is not what Cardinal Hockey used to be about. But this is what Bruce Delventhal wants it to be about. A few people last night, including dome USCHO posters, developed a theory that Bruce was trying his hardest to make the hockey atmosphere so bad that Plattsburgh's Basketball team would pick up in popularity and PSU would become a Basketball School. Let's be honest, even in DIII Basketball and Football are the big money-makers.

Bruce claims that "the majority here doesn't want noisemakers". A few of us are really interested to just how invasive his telepathic powers are, since he clearly knows what 700 peolpe are thinking ;)

LoudHorns31
11-27-2010, 08:17 AM
Well, in the Year of the Fan, when Emery is repeatedly quoted as wanting more noise from the fans, and last night when the students were home for Thanksgiving and we "townspeople" were rocking the arena- I was told by Security that I cannot ring my cowbell because it is a noisemaker.

Will they tell the student band members that they cannot blow their trumpets or beat their drums? Will they tell the team that the bench cannot beat the boards with their sticks to make noise?

I am a grey haired old lady fan whose voice is not terribly loud. I only ring the bell after goals and during introductions.

What is wrong with these idiots at the arena?

Laura, do us a favor and go over and tell Ol' Brucey what you think of his "policy" on noisemakers..... if you don't know who he is I will be glad to point him out to you. stop by and see me on the rail today and we will talk.... I'll be wearing my Remenda jersey.

skipperbob
11-27-2010, 12:27 PM
In Oswego at the CC they have signs up saying that fans cannot bring in any "noisemakers" such as bells, horns etc... But they sometimes handout those plastic idiot sticks to bang together! What a joke. If you are a hockey fan you want NOISE!

Stormy8174
11-27-2010, 01:35 PM
In Oswego at the CC they have signs up saying that fans cannot bring in any "noisemakers" such as bells, horns etc... But they sometimes handout those plastic idiot sticks to bang together! What a joke. If you are a hockey fan you want NOISE!

If I remember correctly, during the time I was at Oswego as a student I do not remember the students even really bringing in many of these "noisemakers." Granted, I feel that any addition to the atmosphere would be great but the fans in Oswego were always loud enough and in my opinion did not need the addition of noise makers.

The one game I was at in Plattsburgh for the SUNYAC Championship several years back it was the Oswego fans that were the loudest of the crowd during the overall entirety of the game, just in my opinion. I had always been a fan of standing up during these game (Romney) and as Oswego stood up, Plattsburgh fans remained seated. Instead of getting up decided to yell out "sit down." This from what I viewed as students because they were def not viewed as ticket holders.

Anyway, some people rather use the noisemakers and I don't think it should be a problem, and i don't know why it should be to the athletics department, especially when they want that "atmosphere." I would guess that the only reason why they are asking to not have those things is because of the fear that it is yet another object that could be used to be thrown on the ice in pure frustration.

joecct
11-27-2010, 02:32 PM
In Ball parks they have alcohol free sections. Perhaps the powers that be could designate a "quiet" section where the artificial noisemakers would not be allowed.

Because I have old ears, I do not like air horns.

PSUChamps2001
11-27-2010, 02:40 PM
In Ball parks they have alcohol free sections. Perhaps the powers that be could designate a "quiet" section where the artificial noisemakers would not be allowed.

Because I have old ears, I do not like air horns.

We're not talking about air horns. Those I agree are annoying and can be dangerous. We already tried that with Brucey. We were allowed for YEARS to do it with no problems till he got here. Our crowd was already on the decline since the Zoo Crew left...now, especially with no students, it was pathetic. Do you need noisemakers? No, but it does make for an interesting and unique atmosphere. Where I have a problem is with Brucey lying out his teeth saying the "majority" of fans don't want them. Yea...that's why the whole section was booing the security when they took them away...

cradinalhockeyfan
11-27-2010, 02:42 PM
i just sent Bruce an email... if anybody wants to his e-mail is, delvenbw@plattsburgh.edu

here is what i said.

Mr. Delventhal,

I see this year Plattsburgh State and your staff have put together a great addition to Plattsburgh State Hockey by putting together a pep band, however the past couple of years noise makers of any sort are not permitted into the building.Wouldn't a pep band be considered a noisemaker? I think noise that does not interfere with the play of the game is a huge boost to team success and it gets the fans more involved. My family has purchased season tickets for 5 years now, and I have been watching Plattsburgh State hockey for 20 years. The feelings and emoitions that use to be involved in the community and players seems to be fading away. Why not allow a horn be blown when the team comes out? Why not let fans of all ages ring a cow bell and get the rest of the crowd chanting "lets go plattsburgh"? If i wanted to sit and watch a show or game quietly i should have purchased tickets to an Opera. This e-mail is on behalf of my family and fans who sit around me who support noise makers.

Sincerely,

PSUChamps2001
11-27-2010, 02:48 PM
All I can say is good luck. We've already tried and he doesn't want to listen. He's just a suit and tie walking the PC line. Same thing with Emery, instead of fighting for us they just want to make it harder and come up with more excuses. Maybe this year someone can take a vote...hand out slips at the game and have them dropped off in the lobby at the end of the game just to prove who the majority is.

LoudHorns31
11-27-2010, 02:58 PM
All I can say is good luck. We've already tried and he doesn't want to listen. He's just a suit and tie walking the PC line. Same thing with Emery, instead of fighting for us they just want to make it harder and come up with more excuses. Maybe this year someone can take a vote...hand out slips at the game and have them dropped off in the lobby at the end of the game just to prove who the majority is.

Bruce isn't even a "suit and tie"....he's a pair of jeans and a nasty flannel shirt with a ball cap..... you would think the AD of a major College would atleast dress appropriately....hell, our goal judges are more presentable than he is.

FALCONSANNOUNCER
11-27-2010, 03:00 PM
NCAA doesn't want noisemakers in the arenas. Our radio station wanted to do a promo where we gave away like the plastic duck call things except make them Falcon Screeches and got that shot down.

nyi19
11-27-2010, 04:26 PM
NCAA doesn't want noisemakers in the arenas. Our radio station wanted to do a promo where we gave away like the plastic duck call things except make them Falcon Screeches and got that shot down.

The NCAA hasn't "banned" artificial noisemakers, but this problem is less about Bruce than what people aren't getting. The noisemakers, as per NCAA rule, are prohibited from being used during gameplay. So when one person uses it during gameplay, that ruins it for everyone else that would use them responsibly...take it up with them, not Bruce.

MountieBoyOz
11-27-2010, 04:30 PM
Well, in the Year of the Fan, when Emery is repeatedly quoted as wanting more noise from the fans, and last night when the students were home for Thanksgiving and we "townspeople" were rocking the arena- I was told by Security that I cannot ring my cowbell because it is a noisemaker.

Will they tell the student band members that they cannot blow their trumpets or beat their drums? Will they tell the team that the bench cannot beat the boards with their sticks to make noise?

I am a grey haired old lady fan whose voice is not terribly loud. I only ring the bell after goals and during introductions.

What is wrong with these idiots at the arena?

The patrons want to enjoy their strawberries and cream in peace. :D

PSUChamps2001
11-27-2010, 04:40 PM
The NCAA hasn't "banned" artificial noisemakers, but this problem is less about Bruce than what people aren't getting. The noisemakers, as per NCAA rule, are prohibited from being used during gameplay. So when one person uses it during gameplay, that ruins it for everyone else that would use them responsibly...take it up with them, not Bruce.

Nobody has....that's the point. And no, its not "them" its Bruce...period. Ever since he arrived at Plattsburgh its been downhill and nothing but problems. There is a reason he's been run out of several other places.

jconnor
11-27-2010, 05:40 PM
And the Elmira fans complained about their AD"......It's not that bad at the Thunder Domes. Just keep doing what you've been doing, maybe they'll give up.

MountieBoyOz
11-27-2010, 10:20 PM
I may be a Lakers fan, but I feel for you, Laura. You are trying to root and cheer loudly, but you the AD is being a d-bag. I know I take my jabs at the "Patrons" of Stafford, but I like the place. It's got a team that has a strong tradition and they should be cheered for loudly. However, it's the townspeople that don't want to hear the noise. I'm starting to think they may start serving scones and tea because they may be turning the place into Wimbledon. :D

Birdwatcher
11-27-2010, 10:36 PM
I may be a Lakers fan, but I feel for you, Laura. You are trying to root and cheer loudly, but you the AD is being a d-bag. I know I take my jabs at the "Patrons" of Stafford, but I like the place. It's got a team that has a strong tradition and they should be cheered for loudly. However, it's the townspeople that don't want to hear the noise. I'm starting to think they may start serving scones and tea because they may be turning the place into Wimbledon. :D

I am a "Townspeople" and I LOVE the noise. All the townspeople I know do as well!! I don't believe that information is correct!!

skipperbob
11-28-2010, 12:36 AM
Hey, don't go blaming the "Townspeople" pal! We are there for every game year after year while students come and go! We love the Lakers and support them all the time, not just when they are highly ranked. I wish we could bring cowbells and such to add a little more character to the place but unfortunately there would be those who would abuse the privilege and ruin it for the rest of us. (Probably students). I hope you realize that this was in jest - but don't blame the non-students who come and fill the CC.

PSUChamps2001
11-28-2010, 12:49 AM
Hey, don't go blaming the "Townspeople" pal! We are there for every game year after year while students come and go! We love the Lakers and support them all the time, not just when they are highly ranked. I wish we could bring cowbells and such to add a little more character to the place but unfortunately there would be those who would abuse the privilege and ruin it for the rest of us. (Probably students). I hope you realize that this was in jest - but don't blame the non-students who come and fill the CC.

And like I said, we did it for over 20 years....there was no need for it to end.

CardinalSin
11-28-2010, 08:05 AM
we are just beating our heads against the wall on the matter , if the security has the authority to enforce the wishes of coach emery ,the AD and the governing body for the NCAA ,what choice do we really have but to find ways to be loud and supportive without horns and cowbells . Sadly the music has not even vaguely represented the hockey music in arenas and the new PA announcer is very stiff and leaves a little to be desired . he isnt even accurate on the numbers for the home team when announcing the starting line up.

Ironically we have more home games this season then ever , no scoreboard to speak of , our proud tradition is severly tarnished and the net effect is we are trying to make the Ronald B stafford a premiere hockey venue with half hearted ,low budget gimics .....start by admitting the scoreboards were a bad choice , tear them down ,get a refund and go elsewhere for new product , unless the sales rep is some how tied to the program thru bloodline . Hard to fire a relative?

If I was asked I would begin an "ask the fan (customer) " campaign to see what the "majority" of the fan base is saying they expect from their hockey experience . It could be done by the marketing classes at SUNY and help students as well as the fieldhouse staff and sport mangement answer their critics with real world data.

Last but not least, whats up with the zamboni , I hear from many knowledgeable rink rats that the ice surfacing attempts by the staff between periods is not very good , excess water is abundant ,large swatches are missed , is this something to do with the equipment or is it just another example of the program needing a shakeup and get some new expertise on the zamboni .