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Biddco
12-11-2010, 12:14 PM
Hey fake soldier boy, you better still be planning on coming over tomorrow after your other commitments are over. :D

Biddco, I figure you'll check this sometime tonight or tomorrow. If you're in the cities, you can come over too. If you want, I might be convinced to let your girlfriend in the house. ;)
Already have plans :) Thanks though!

FadeToBlack&Gold
12-11-2010, 02:21 PM
I know this picture is hardly fair to either goalie, since this streak isn't really their fault. Nonetheless, the temptation was just too great. Please consider it a reflection upon the entire team. Sorry Kevin:

http://i6.***********.com/albums/y227/association330/tech-goalie-beachball.jpg

I must say, sweet mask art though. Since I did nick this image from a hockey photographer, I should cover my arse legally, just in case:

Original photograph 2010 Michelle Bishop. Fair use claimed under parody. If the copyright holder requests that I remove this image, I will do so ASAP.

huskyfan
12-11-2010, 04:23 PM
notes from Nebraska:

I just couldn't imagine hockey in Nebraska. guys in cowboy hats and boots at a hockey game? its all true. the Qwest Center is very large and very nice. its a mixed venue arena - hockey, basketball, concerts and convention center - not the best place to watch hockey. the ice was crap. the press boxes are WAY above the ice so I wouldn't fault Dirk if he made some errors - literally three times higher than at the SDC. the concessions were good. not Denver good but good. best beer selection in the WCHA!! by far! Peroni, Amstel Light, Guinness, Dos Equis, you name it they had it. SPATEN!! yes, the beer selection is by far the best. the fans seem to know the game and cheer at appropriate times. the "Red Army" - the student section - seemed a little sad - about 10 on Thursday night - more on Friday, including our own Yager, who sat with them. normally I would think that very lame but I have reason to believe a woman was involved so all is forgiven. Tech had a very small turnout - we badly miss MeG and her cowbell. props to the guys sitting in front of us who started the "we want Hatchey" cheer after a UNO goal.

ok. said all the nice things. now I'll get nasty. worst hockey atmosphere ever. lame announcer, lame contests, lame frozen fish thing and the go cart that runs out to pick it up. is there no shame? ice integrity and all that? there is no band and the little bit of music is awful. the huge Daktronics scoreboard isn't all that good although they did do a couple of cute bits with it. the most painful part was a salute to teachers with the announcer singing (to the tune of "for he's a jolly good fellow") 'for they are very good teachers'. all in all not much hockey fun. then, to add injury to insult, they called themselves "the best fans in college hockey". really? I think their fans would be amazed to visit the SDC and hear our band and the fun stuff the Misfits do. their heads would explode in the Ralph or the Kohl Center.

in a later post, I'll address hockey. film at eleven. ;):)

manurespreader
12-11-2010, 04:48 PM
well hmmm...
hockey first. If I were coach I'd be buying every player a beer tonight. I think they played real hard, they made a huge, huge leap forward in quality and effort and it just wasn't their night. I am not disappointed at all. Sure I like to win, but at least not be embarrassed, And apparently CC is not as bad as we thought.
The goal has to be to continue to get better and they did that. I think uno has a real quality defense and we had trouble with it. I would certainly be looking for ways to improve and there were of course breakdowns, but if they give that kind of effort every game we should be a lot better each and every game.I can't imagine a team who had given up or who had been lost, giving this kind of effort.
Like I said before, let's play our best in March.
I am real interested to hear what coach has to say at the luncheon at GLI.

manurespreader
12-11-2010, 04:53 PM
notes from Nebraska:

ok. said all the nice things. now I'll get nasty. worst hockey atmosphere ever. lame announcer, lame contests, lame frozen fish thing and the go cart that runs out to pick it up. is there no shame? ice integrity and all that? there is no band and the little bit of music is awful. the huge Daktronics scoreboard isn't all that good although they did do a couple of cute bits with it. the most painful part was a salute to teachers with the announcer singing (to the tune of "for he's a jolly good fellow") 'for they are very good teachers'. all in all not much hockey fun. then, to add injury to insult, they called themselves "the best fans in college hockey". really? I think their fans would be amazed to visit the SDC and hear our band and the fun stuff the Misfits do. their heads would explode in the Ralph or the Kohl Center. :)

Sorry for the double post. This is no surprise I guess,every team thinks their fans are the best in college hockey, except maybe DU which has a total of 4. I think they can be forgiven for the mistakes in atmosphere, but the ice surface, ugh. they have to fix that. I wonder what some of the other teams have to say about it. I wish we had a huge video capable scoreboard, just don't let mitch run it.

techcodemonkey
12-11-2010, 05:04 PM
Sorry for the double post. This is no surprise I guess,every team thinks their fans are the best in college hockey, except maybe DU which has a total of 4. I think they can be forgiven for the mistakes in atmosphere, but the ice surface, ugh. they have to fix that. I wonder what some of the other teams have to say about it. I wish we had a huge video capable scoreboard, just don't let mitch run it.

we are getting a video capable scoreboard =)

that way we can see Tech suck on instant replay too

FadeToBlack&Gold
12-11-2010, 05:10 PM
that way we can see Tech suck on instant replay too

This

Painted_Bandit
12-11-2010, 05:53 PM
LOL, Im watching the BU/RPI game and RPI just had a 3 on 0. The play-by-play announcer commented that he's never seen a 3 on 0, he's obviously never watched a Tech game

Flashy Man
12-11-2010, 07:34 PM
we are getting a video capable scoreboard =)

that way we can see Tech suck on instant replay too

Where did you hear this?

nmupiccdiva
12-11-2010, 08:01 PM
Where did you hear this?

Clearly, not from the paint store.

huskyfan
12-11-2010, 08:27 PM
Thursday was bad. we don't usually sit so close to the bench, so it was nice to see the players and coaches up close. nobody looked happy. everybody looked tired and out of sorts. Doritos had a bit of a spark but then he went down hurt and the refs let him lay on the ice in agony for ... it seemed like forever. the mister and I worried. :(

THEN!! the good Huskies came out on Friday! whoa. there were some smiles and joking during warm up. the team had a bunch of jump. Genoe made some great saves. Rix. Stebner. Johnstone. Sova. Pietala. all the guys. playing their hearts out. DERON COUSENS! seriously played every other shift. I like these Huskies. the guys played really really hard. :)

I am sick and tired of hearing how the coach (es) have "lost the team". these are big boys. they may hate the coach's guts but they have their own individual pride to play for, teammates to play for, scholarships to play for, careers to play for. there are alot of guys on this team that aren't in trouble and are playing their hearts out. they are not pros or semi pros (like some college programs who will remain unnamed). they are students and juggling busy schedules, travel, a Div I sport and academics. they like being a part of this team and this program. they are good students, good guys and good hockey players. they have character.

(getting really wound up now) :eek:

and I'm getting sick of all this crap about the coaches. like they want to lose more games? like they aren't giving it all they have? like they have some magic bullet? like coaching is just those two hours behind the bench? no dealing with alumni, parents, students, recruits? no paperwork? no NCAA standards? no admin pressure? no travel hassles, no 2am calls about a player in trouble? no dealing with the donors, no taking calls from disgruntled fans, academic problems, equipment problems, personnel problems, injuries, families, townies and gownies, goalies and girlfriends, the press and the pressure? yeah, sure, fire 'em all and hire Scotty Bowman. the players loved him. :rolleyes:

any talk of moving to another league is way premature. with the Big Ten coming soon there may be lots of changes. I'm sure we will stay with the WCHA until it gets sorted out.

remember when Tech was the dangerous team to play? we were the "any given" weekend team, who might be losers, but still could sweep you in your own house?
here's what Dean Blais said about our team : "Tough game...tough game. They came back and showed a lot of character." this team gets more respect from opponents coaches than from their own fans. :mad:

we are Tech fans. we have a proud tradition. we have SISU. the players get up every week and carry on. why don't we fans do that too? :mad:

ok. I'm done now. :)

FadeToBlack&Gold
12-11-2010, 08:55 PM
When we keep it close, we always "show a lot of character" in the eyes of opposing coaches. We don't do a lot of winning though.

Have some more Kool-Aid. ;) :D

techcodemonkey
12-11-2010, 09:11 PM
Where did you hear this?

I has connections (when you work for the university, as long as you're not the janitorial staff, you hear stuff) however, that was a bit ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if they back out due to the team going through a wood-chipper

MTUHatTrick84
12-11-2010, 09:17 PM
I am not going to argue with you, huskyfan. I like your optimism, I like your fire for this team. You bring up great points.

Nobody wants to lose. But, my point is that we have a culture of it. There needs to be some kind of change when you do the exact same thing every single year. Is it not said that insanity is doing the same things over and over, and expecting a different result?

There is absolutely no reason why Michigan Tech should completely fall apart every single November and December, without fail. Winning less than 19% of your games in two months of the season (average of many years) is unacceptable. Double-digit winless streaks in 5 of 8 years is not acceptable. I said it before: Once is an aberration, twice is a trend, and more than that is a culture.

You said yourself that the team looked unhappy and out-of-sorts before Thursday night's game. Sure, they came out much better Friday. But that just says to me that the team was mentally unprepared for Thursday. I make no allegations about what that means for this team, but to me it shows a large amount of inconsistency for this team, which we have mentioned many many times in the past.

We show signs of mental toughness. We battle back at times and get back into games, but we also are prone to let the wheels fall off in some games. Our players lose a bit of focus, and it results in a breakdown, and this team is not good enough to overcome the breakdowns.

And so the need is to change the culture of losing. The losing has resulted in apathy, self-pity, and sarcastic humor from fans. To show that the status quo is not acceptable, we need to make a change.

I have nothing against Coach Russell as a person. I do not question his work ethic. I do not question his passion. But a good person and a good coach might find himself in the wrong situation, and the results will not be there. Is that the case here? He is an alum, but that does not mean that coaching the Huskies is the right position for him.

He has the rest of the season to prove that he can be the one who changes this culture. But, 8 years later, we are looking at some of the same trends we have seen in the last 30 years.
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The recent results are made even more frustrating by the fact that our rival, who also happens to be a 'young team', is playing well as of late. Why are they able to have more success as a young team than we are? Is Marquette >>> Houghton? Are the academics that much harder here?

Of course, as I type this, NMU has gone from leading Notre Dame 3-0 on the road in the 3rd period to 3-2 with 5 minutes left.

And, very nicely, Notre Dame has a free video broadcast. So, bonus college hockey this weekend!

huskyfan
12-11-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm not mad at anybody. (laughs maniacally) I'm just mad! :D

and I love the sarcastic humor.

wish there was an easy answer.

MTUHatTrick84
12-12-2010, 02:00 AM
Question tonight: Does Michigan Tech make it to ten wins this year? By my calculation, there should be 21 regular season games left, and we need to win 33% of them to make it to double digits. Through the first 15 games, we have won 20% of our games (.267 is the winning percentage due to the two ties).

Since I don't really want to sleep yet, I am going to try to break it down how I see it. Coach says you can't look past your next opponent, but I am going to anyway:

I think to get to 10, we need to at least win one of the next 3 games. Most likely, the best shot will come against State in the GLI 3rd Place Game. We could possibly take out NMU next Friday, but they are certainly not the same team that we faced in October. The game against UofM? Did you see them play today?

By the end of December, we will have 3-5 wins. I am going to be an optimist and say 4.

Moving into the second half of the schedule, we go to SCSU to start January. We should maybe get a few players back. SCSU is just barely better than us this year, but there is something about a really horrible history of Tech playing St. Cloud. Something has to give, so I say split. 5 wins (and also getting to 5 conference points).

Home against St. Lawrence University to wrap up our non-con schedule. They are at 4-8-3, but who really knows anything about them? I certainly don't. I say that Tech wins one of the games, and call a tie in the other game. 6 wins (but still 5 conference points).

Back-to-back home series against Duluth and Wisconsin. 1-2-1. 7 wins on the season, and up to 8 conference points.

Road to Anchorage. Anchorage isn't terrible anymore. Tech swept, or takes one point. (7 wins, 8-9 conference points).

Winter Carnival against Bemidji? Looking at the Beaver's results, I see a wildly inconsistent team. But the did sweep Omaha. But it is Winter Carnival. Split? Sure, 8 wins, 10-11 conference points.

Go to Denver. Go to Minnesota. Likely not happening in the mile-high city. Perhaps in the Twin Cities we pull a win. 9 wins, 12-13 conference points.

Close out the regular season with a home series against North Dakota. Unless some writer calls us "perennial doormats" and that motivates us, I say things end pretty quietly at the Mac.

End of the Regular Season: 9 wins. 12-13 conference points. Guaranteed to be in the basement, with a vacation to Duluth, Denver, or North Dakota to end the campaign.

So, what do you think. If you were to set the over/under at 10 wins right now, would you take the over or the under? Where do you think the discrepancies will be with how I think the season will play out? I tried my best to get us to the 10 win mark, but I really was not able to.

Just trying to get a bit of conversation going that isn't directly negative or coach related. The athletic department will need to do the legwork on the coaches, and perhaps it might be best to hold off on trying to name the replacement for now. That talk is depressing, especially when we assume that nobody is going to want to commit career suicide by signing on with the Huskies.

crazypotatoes
12-12-2010, 02:16 AM
Question tonight: Does Michigan Tech make it to ten wins this year? By my calculation, there should be 21 regular season games left, and we need to win 33% of them to make it to double digits. Through the first 15 games, we have won 20% of our games (.267 is the winning percentage due to the two ties).

Since I don't really want to sleep yet, I am going to try to break it down how I see it. Coach says you can't look past your next opponent, but I am going to anyway:

I think to get to 10, we need to at least win one of the next 3 games. Most likely, the best shot will come against State in the GLI 3rd Place Game. We could possibly take out NMU next Friday, but they are certainly not the same team that we faced in October. The game against UofM? Did you see them play today?

By the end of December, we will have 3-5 wins. I am going to be an optimist and say 4.

Moving into the second half of the schedule, we go to SCSU to start January. We should maybe get a few players back. SCSU is just barely better than us this year, but there is something about a really horrible history of Tech playing St. Cloud. Something has to give, so I say split. 5 wins (and also getting to 5 conference points).

Home against St. Lawrence University to wrap up our non-con schedule. They are at 4-8-3, but who really knows anything about them? I certainly don't. I say that Tech wins one of the games, and call a tie in the other game. 6 wins (but still 5 conference points).

Back-to-back home series against Duluth and Wisconsin. 1-2-1. 7 wins on the season, and up to 8 conference points.

Road to Anchorage. Anchorage isn't terrible anymore. Tech swept, or takes one point. (7 wins, 8-9 conference points).

Winter Carnival against Bemidji? Looking at the Beaver's results, I see a wildly inconsistent team. But the did sweep Omaha. But it is Winter Carnival. Split? Sure, 8 wins, 10-11 conference points.

Go to Denver. Go to Minnesota. Likely not happening in the mile-high city. Perhaps in the Twin Cities we pull a win. 9 wins, 12-13 conference points.

Close out the regular season with a home series against North Dakota. Unless some writer calls us "perennial doormats" and that motivates us, I say things end pretty quietly at the Mac.

End of the Regular Season: 9 wins. 12-13 conference points. Guaranteed to be in the basement, with a vacation to Duluth, Denver, or North Dakota to end the campaign.

So, what do you think. If you were to set the over/under at 10 wins right now, would you take the over or the under? Where do you think the discrepancies will be with how I think the season will play out? I tried my best to get us to the 10 win mark, but I really was not able to.

Just trying to get a bit of conversation going that isn't directly negative or coach related. The athletic department will need to do the legwork on the coaches, and perhaps it might be best to hold off on trying to name the replacement for now. That talk is depressing, especially when we assume that nobody is going to want to commit career suicide by signing on with the Huskies.Tech pretty much needs to sweep St. Lawrence to have any hope of salvaging this season. Not that I haven't already resigned to being in the cellar, but losing to WCHA teams is one thing; losing to mid- to bottom-level ECAC teams? That's a big problem.

manurespreader
12-12-2010, 04:34 AM
well I really like Huskyfans post. To change the coach is a huge undertaking and since the last 7 have failed to win much, why do we think that changing this one will result in something different?
Still there are issues to be addressed. Will he win more than 10 games? Will we get healthy.? will we play hard? will we keep getting better?
I don't think 8 wins is acceptable but I think there has to be some leeway for all the injuries.
I'd like to see us start to score more goals, and have a really good recruiting class. That would go a long way to making me feel better.

The Troll mtu86
12-12-2010, 10:34 AM
Thursday was bad. we don't usually sit so close to the bench, so it was nice to see the players and coaches up close. nobody looked happy. everybody looked tired and out of sorts. Doritos had a bit of a spark but then he went down hurt and the refs let him lay on the ice in agony for ... it seemed like forever. the mister and I worried. :(

THEN!! the good Huskies came out on Friday! whoa. there were some smiles and joking during warm up. the team had a bunch of jump. Genoe made some great saves. Rix. Stebner. Johnstone. Sova. Pietala. all the guys. playing their hearts out. DERON COUSENS! seriously played every other shift. I like these Huskies. the guys played really really hard. :)

I am sick and tired of hearing how the coach (es) have "lost the team". these are big boys. they may hate the coach's guts but they have their own individual pride to play for, teammates to play for, scholarships to play for, careers to play for. there are alot of guys on this team that aren't in trouble and are playing their hearts out. they are not pros or semi pros (like some college programs who will remain unnamed). they are students and juggling busy schedules, travel, a Div I sport and academics. they like being a part of this team and this program. they are good students, good guys and good hockey players. they have character.

(getting really wound up now) :eek:

and I'm getting sick of all this crap about the coaches. like they want to lose more games? like they aren't giving it all they have? like they have some magic bullet? like coaching is just those two hours behind the bench? no dealing with alumni, parents, students, recruits? no paperwork? no NCAA standards? no admin pressure? no travel hassles, no 2am calls about a player in trouble? no dealing with the donors, no taking calls from disgruntled fans, academic problems, equipment problems, personnel problems, injuries, families, townies and gownies, goalies and girlfriends, the press and the pressure? yeah, sure, fire 'em all and hire Scotty Bowman. the players loved him. :rolleyes:

any talk of moving to another league is way premature. with the Big Ten coming soon there may be lots of changes. I'm sure we will stay with the WCHA until it gets sorted out.

remember when Tech was the dangerous team to play? we were the "any given" weekend team, who might be losers, but still could sweep you in your own house?
here's what Dean Blais said about our team : "Tough game...tough game. They came back and showed a lot of character." this team gets more respect from opponents coaches than from their own fans. :mad:

we are Tech fans. we have a proud tradition. we have SISU. the players get up every week and carry on. why don't we fans do that too? :mad:

ok. I'm done now. :)

Best post I've read in a couple years.

huskyfan
12-12-2010, 10:36 AM
from what I've heard next years class is supposed to be even better that this years.