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Osorojo
11-06-2010, 11:08 AM
And you thought New York was an expensive place to live/do business!
According to the so-called "Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act" in 2009-10 RIT paid $8,074 per player in expenses for its hockey team. RIT had zero NHL draftees on that team. The "Equity Act" reported that in 09-10 Wisconsin paid $36,152 per player in expenses for its hockey team. Wisconsin had 11 NHL draftees on that team. The colleges themselves reported these facts.
Draw or refuse to draw whatever conclusions you wish, but for me it looks more like inequity - except for the level of play.

Dirty
11-06-2010, 11:24 AM
And this matters why?

FadeToBlack&Gold
11-06-2010, 11:31 AM
Huh...so, lemme get this straight. A major public university with a huge D1 athletic department is spending more on hockey than a private school with a D3 athletic department that plays up in one or two sports.

Wow, I never would've guessed. You must be some kind of superhero genius...maybe this guy?

http://www.treygarrison.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/captain_obvious.jpg

mookie1995
11-06-2010, 11:43 AM
Heck, I clicked here thinkin I was gonna read about hookers.

T'anks for nothin' Danny!

komey1
11-06-2010, 02:22 PM
He must have missed the Wisconsin - RIT semifinal :( There was a bit on inequity there.

PcFriars13
11-06-2010, 03:01 PM
osorojo every time i see that you've started a new thread i'm just automatically filled with rage...seriously, just stop. just because you pour a lot of money into something doesn't mean it'll be successful...check out the public schools. i can't remember what city it was, but they put a lot of money into it and the test scores went up ~0 points.

HoosierBBall_GopherHockey
11-06-2010, 03:08 PM
osorojo every time i see that you've started a new thread i'm just automatically filled with rage...seriously, just stop. just because you pour a lot of money into something doesn't mean it'll be successful...check out the public schools. i can't remember what city it was, but they put a lot of money into it and the test scores went up ~0 points.

Don't have a heart attack over it. He starts new threads a lot.

Chuck Schwartz
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
I'm assuming those numbers include scholarships?

Osorojo
11-06-2010, 07:47 PM
In 2010 (2011 too) RIT had no athletic scholarships. In 2010 Wisconsin had 18 hockey scholarships.
In 2010 the RIT hockey roster had zero NHL draft picks. Wisconsin had 11.
In 2010 Wisconsin paid 448% more per hockey player than RIT paid.
In 2010 undergraduate tuition at RIT was $28,035. In 2010 undergrad tuition at Wisconsin was $4,156.
In 2010 there were 19,680 undergraduates enrolled in Wisconsin-Madison, and 14,045 undergrads in RIT.

Those handicapped in arithmetic and those contemptuous of facts can stop here. Others will deduce from the facts that someone other than students or parents paying tuition subsidized the bloated per player expenditure and hockey scholarships at Wisconsin, as is true at many other colleges. Realists will conclude that taxpayers "contributed" the difference to these lavishly expensive programs. Thoughtful fans will be tempted to conclude that throwing a lot of (other people's) money around is not the only way to produce a successful hockey program.

Twitch Boy
11-06-2010, 07:58 PM
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LtPowers
11-06-2010, 08:04 PM
There are other possible sources of revenue than just students, parents, or taxpayers. Just a few examples: corporate sponsorships, ticket sales, alumni donations.

And, I should also point out that even a full scholarship doesn't really cost the full amount of tuition. Admitting one extra person increases the school's costs by a negligible amount, so simply not charging that person tuition doesn't really cost much in real dollars.

I should *also* point out that RIT does provide financial aid to their athletes.


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Dirty
11-06-2010, 11:29 PM
Man, people are going to be pretty p^ssed off when they learn all that money they are donating to Blue Line Clubs and Athletic Fundraising organizations isn't actually going to pay for scholarship and is instead being burned or something. How did you discover this Osorojo? This is shocking information! I am assuming you did a whole lot of investigating and research. Am I correct?

FiveHole12
11-06-2010, 11:53 PM
In 2010 (2011 too) RIT had no athletic scholarships. In 2010 Wisconsin had 18 hockey scholarships.
In 2010 the RIT hockey roster had zero NHL draft picks. Wisconsin had 11.
In 2010 Wisconsin paid 448% more per hockey player than RIT paid.
In 2010 undergraduate tuition at RIT was $28,035. In 2010 undergrad tuition at Wisconsin was $4,156.
In 2010 there were 19,680 undergraduates enrolled in Wisconsin-Madison, and 14,045 undergrads in RIT.

Those handicapped in arithmetic and those contemptuous of facts can stop here. Others will deduce from the facts that someone other than students or parents paying tuition subsidized the bloated per player expenditure and hockey scholarships at Wisconsin, as is true at many other colleges. Those contemptuous of facts will conclude that taxpayers "contributed" the difference to these lavishly expensive programs. Thoughtful fans will be tempted to conclude that throwing a lot of (other people's) money around is not the only way to produce a successful hockey program.
Fixed.

FlagDUDE08
11-07-2010, 06:45 AM
The bigger concern in my mind: How did the background for this thread become pink?

Patman
11-07-2010, 08:04 AM
Anybody else notice Oso's reps have their own alt-text? Sounds like the USCHO admins are having fun.

Don't suppose you boys could help us out with malz2000 in the UML threads?

nanotiger
11-07-2010, 09:07 AM
The bigger concern in my mind: How did the background for this thread become pink?

The admins trying to smooth relations in any thread with osorojo by exploiting subconscious responses to colors? Some prisons do the same thing.


Anybody else notice Oso's reps have their own alt-text? Sounds like the USCHO admins are having fun.

Don't suppose you boys could help us out with malz2000 in the UML threads?

You mean how his rep-title is just 'osorojo'? I think that's pretty standard.

Patman
11-07-2010, 09:24 AM
You mean how his rep-title is just 'osorojo'? I think that's pretty standard.

yeah... that makes sense... just the name with nothing after it. Meh :)

WeWantMore
11-07-2010, 09:26 AM
In 2010 (2011 too) RIT had no athletic scholarships. In 2010 Wisconsin had 18 hockey scholarships.
In 2010 the RIT hockey roster had zero NHL draft picks. Wisconsin had 11.
In 2010 Wisconsin paid 448% more per hockey player than RIT paid.
In 2010 undergraduate tuition at RIT was $28,035. In 2010 undergrad tuition at Wisconsin was $4,156.
In 2010 there were 19,680 undergraduates enrolled in Wisconsin-Madison, and 14,045 undergrads in RIT.



It was? I got screwed then.