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Nick Papagiorgio
03-01-2011, 08:54 AM
If BC wins the regular season title its because they are the best ever, and if they don't win it, its because Jerry York had some grand Belichickian scheme to sacrifice and prepare for the post season.

Have you ever read any interviews with Jerry York? If you have, you'd understand. He straight up tells people that he is not bothered by getting players experience early on to help them learn if it means he is sacrificing to some extent.

If BC wins the regular season this year, it will be because they're talented enough to overcome that sacrifice anyway. End of story.

ps - when you find those York interviews, maybe forward them over to Umile so he can take some freakin notes.

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 09:01 AM
Hey, Eddie Haskell, thats not what you asked. Don't take your stupidity out on him. What you asked was quoted. It might be what you MEANT to ask, but its not what you asked. Period. Go drive daddy's Audi off of a short pier.

Why don't you answer the question then? "Eddie Haskell"? ***? If winning the RS actually meant something besides a meaningless banner on the wall at the Whitt, I'd tend to agree with you. The RS merely sets up seeding for the tournament. BC has more RS titles than anyone in HE, so if I actually gave a crap about them, dont you think I'd be pimping that?

J.D.
03-01-2011, 09:01 AM
I think I get it. If BC wins the regular season title its because they are the best ever, and if they don't win it, its because Jerry York had some grand Belichickian scheme to sacrifice and prepare for the post season. Makes sense. I guess.

The reality is that York and the players want to win it. That's not up for debate. As insignificant as it may seem as the postseason arrives, it's still a tremendous accomplishment.

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 09:03 AM
other programs are putting more weight to the games played in the postseason than UNH does apparently.

I agreed with everything in your post, except this. I don't think that UNH's lack of success in the postseason means that they don't think those games are important. Posters don't speak for the coaching staff / players. In fact, one could argue the opposite -- that there's a monkey on the back, now, and perhaps knowing that, players grab their sticks a little tighter, etc . . .

I know from talking to Coach that the goal every year is compete for a title (obviously!) Just this past weekend, he said that he wishes the RS title were already decided, so UNH could just play for the W against BC for the PWR boost. But I know for a fact this coaching staff views the regular season as two things: the regular season, and a chance to evaluate and tune up for postseason play. For example; Greg Burke is out for the season. Coach says, "fortunately we have another set of games for his replacement to settle in before the playoffs."


Another first round Umiliation this year and that NCAA tourney starting gate will also be the finish line. :(

I would argue we haven't been Umiliated in a couple years -- in the first round anyway. Technically, RIT was the second round, so . . . shut up :p

Nick Papagiorgio
03-01-2011, 09:03 AM
The reality is that York and the players want to win it. That's not up for debate. As insignificant as it may seem as the postseason arrives, it's still a tremendous accomplishment.

Correct.

Of course, once again the UNH numbnuts will skip over this point and pretend like no one cares about it.

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 09:05 AM
The reality is that York and the players want to win it. That's not up for debate. As insignificant as it may seem as the postseason arrives, it's still a tremendous accomplishment.

I'l be curious what Umile does on Saturday if BC wins on Friday. Considering how important PWR points are now, if UNH loses Friday and finds themselves in OT on Saturday, would Umile pull the goalie knowing he has to win the game to win the RS? This was York's dilemma last season and he realized a tie, even though it cost them the RS title, helped his PWR and he sacrificed a chance at winning. My guess is Umile would pull the goalie, but that's just my guess.

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 09:06 AM
Belichickian scheme

The (tight) ends justify the means? :cool:

Sorry, I just wanted to see the word "Belichickian" associated with a post of mine. :D

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 09:07 AM
UNH numbnuts

Think of the money we could save on jock straps . . . :eek:

WildShawn
03-01-2011, 09:08 AM
Why don't you answer the question then? "Eddie Haskell"? ***? If winning the RS actually meant something besides a meaningless banner on the wall at the Whitt, I'd tend to agree with you. The RS merely sets up seeding for the tournament. BC has more RS titles than anyone in HE, so if I actually gave a crap about them, dont you think I'd be pimping that?

You'd agree with me about what?

Since reading comprehension is your strong suit, along with typing imaginary questions, why don't you go back and see what I've had to say about the RS championship.

You asked a question, it was answered, and, like a typical BCDB, you ridiculed people for answering the question you asked. Its pathetic how you clowns aren't satisfied with having the best team in the league/country/planet, you have to rub it in people's faces, thus reinforcing the typical BC attitude that you're loathed for throughout the land. Congrats on having the best team in the planet, no one gives a s hit what you think about their team.

J.D.
03-01-2011, 09:10 AM
I'l be curious what Umile does on Saturday if BC wins on Friday. Considering how important PWR points are now, if UNH loses Friday and finds themselves in OT on Saturday, would Umile pull the goalie knowing he has to win the game to win the RS? This was York's dilemma last season and he realized a tie, even though it cost them the RS title, helped his PWR and he sacrificed a chance at winning. My guess is Umile would pull the goalie, but that's just my guess.

Ha, didn't think of that. With their success in the RS well documented, I have to believe Umile would not play into that even further by pulling the goalie...

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 09:20 AM
You'd agree with me about what?

Since reading comprehension is your strong suit, along with typing imaginary questions, why don't you go back and see what I've had to say about the RS championship.

You asked a question, it was answered, and, like a typical BCDB, you ridiculed people for answering the question you asked. Its pathetic how you clowns aren't satisfied with having the best team in the league/country/planet, you have to rub it in people's faces, thus reinforcing the typical BC attitude that you're loathed for throughout the land. Congrats on having the best team in the planet, no one gives a s hit what you think about their team.

I'd agree with you that the RS title would be worth chest pounding about if it actually meant something. IT DOESN'T. I know in UNH-land, it's a big deal to hang that banner to take people's eyes away from your laughable Tyco scoreboard, but its true. I wish you the best of luck this weekend. Personally, I think the series splits and UNH wins it. If UNH is fortunate enough to make it to the Garden, I will really look forward to a rematch because of how both teams don't grind it out and trap.

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 09:26 AM
I'd agree with you that the RS title would be worth chest pounding about if it actually meant something. IT DOESN'T.

This is the breakdown in this whole arguement. If it doesn't mean anything, why does Hockey East bother having a trophy for it?

Let's put it this way:

Hockey East Regular Season Trophy = $10.

Hockey East Tournament Trophy = $100.

NCAA Regional Tournament Trophy (aka FF appearance) = $1,000.

NCAA Championship: $1,000,000 (I know, huge jump!). It's not that the RS is meaningless - hell, I'd take $10 free anyday! It's that other stuff means more.

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 09:30 AM
This is the breakdown in this whole arguement. If it doesn't mean anything, why does Hockey East bother having a trophy for it?

Let's put it this way:

Hockey East Regular Season Trophy = $10.

Hockey East Tournament Trophy = $100.

NCAA Regional Tournament Trophy (aka FF appearance) = $1,000.

NCAA Championship: $1,000,000 (I know, huge jump!). It's not that the RS is meaningless - hell, I'd take $10 free anyday! It's that other stuff means more.

I agree, but if grabbing $10 hurts you from making more money, I'd rather leave the $10 on the table. For example, if there was a # 8 seed you wanted nothing to do with due to matchup reasons, rivalries, etc, it may be more beneficial to take the second seed, etc. I remember Belichick lost a winnable game vs. Miami on the last game of hte year a few years ago because if they won, it meant a first round matchup vs. eventual SB winner Pittsburgh.

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 09:39 AM
I agree, but if grabbing $10 hurts you from making more money, I'd rather leave the $10 on the table. For example, if there was a # 8 seed you wanted nothing to do with due to matchup reasons, rivalries, etc, it may be more beneficial to take the second seed, etc. I remember Belichick lost a winnable game vs. Miami on the last game of hte year a few years ago because if they won, it meant a first round matchup vs. eventual SB winner Pittsburgh.

I agree . . . although I'm usually too short sighted than do to anything other than take what's right in front of me . . .

WildShawn
03-01-2011, 09:44 AM
I'd agree with you that the RS title would be worth chest pounding about if it actually meant something. IT DOESN'T. I know in UNH-land, it's a big deal to hang that banner to take people's eyes away from your laughable Tyco scoreboard, but its true. I wish you the best of luck this weekend. Personally, I think the series splits and UNH wins it. If UNH is fortunate enough to make it to the Garden, I will really look forward to a rematch because of how both teams don't grind it out and trap.

Did you read any of my posts specifically about the regular season?

I totally agree with you about matchups and looking at the bigger picture. This year, unlike last year, the bottom 2 playoff teams are flat out bad teams. Getting at least a 2 seed is very important, I'd say, for both teams this weekend. I think either one of these teams would be happy to play UMass or UVM as opposed to Northeastern. Last year's 8 seed was a different story as they were 3 points out of 3rd place, and I don't think that far from 2nd place either, and an NCAA team. Not excusing the loss at home (hey it happened to you guys once too), but it would be FAR more inexcuseable to lose to this year's UVM or UMass team (I think they're 15-18 points out of 3rd place....)

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Did you read any of my posts specifically about the regular season?

I totally agree with you about matchups and looking at the bigger picture. This year, unlike last year, the bottom 2 playoff teams are flat out bad teams. Getting at least a 2 seed is very important, I'd say, for both teams this weekend. I think either one of these teams would be happy to play UMass or UVM as opposed to Northeastern. Last year's 8 seed was a different story as they were 3 points out of 3rd place, and I don't think that far from 2nd place either, and an NCAA team. Not excusing the loss at home (hey it happened to you guys once too), but it would be FAR more inexcuseable to lose to this year's UVM or UMass team (I think they're 15-18 points out of 3rd place....)

I'd be happy with a 2 because it means my team avoids # 6 NU (they match up well vs BC) and we'd avoid BU in the semis (realistically). BC is 4-0 vs. BU but you have to imagine its tough to beat a team 5 times in the same year without losing. Give me the 2 vs. UMass and a semi vs. Merrimack/Maine and I'd be fine.

WildShawn
03-01-2011, 10:10 AM
I'd be happy with a 2 because it means my team avoids # 6 NU (they match up well vs BC) and we'd avoid BU in the semis (realistically). BC is 4-0 vs. BU but you have to imagine its tough to beat a team 5 times in the same year without losing. Give me the 2 vs. UMass and a semi vs. Merrimack/Maine and I'd be fine.

its tough to set it up further than the first round matchups with re-seedings, and how crazy the other series' could be (BU/NU Maine/MC perhaps?)
This weekend is going to be very interesting for all of the spots still up in the air...

Slasher7
03-01-2011, 11:06 AM
its tough to set it up further than the first round matchups with re-seedings, and how crazy the other series' could be (BU/NU Maine/MC perhaps?)
This weekend is going to be very interesting for all of the spots still up in the air...

I think 7-8 are interchangeable (read: awful) and BC/UNH should have no problem with them. After that, it gets difficult. NU plays BC very well and we both know what MC is capable of. Maine is red hot and BU is still tough to beat with all their friends in zebra costumes, especially at the Garden.

sterlippo1
03-01-2011, 11:16 AM
the last 3 posts were great! the group of them before gave me a headache, just sayin

unhpuckfan2001
03-01-2011, 12:06 PM
the last 3 posts were great! the group of them before gave me a headache, just sayin

It's a credit to both Shawn and Slasher that they can argue, and then talk reasonably again.

Post away!